Grover Norquist says F* You to WWII generation.

[Zero Division]

Grover just can't stop himself from giving out gold nuggets of wingnuttery. Pass this on and ask the senior citizens you know what they think about this Republican icon.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/20/212529/479

"Yes, because in addition their demographic base is shrinking. Each year, 2 million people who fought in the Second World War and lived through the Great Depression die. This generation has been an exception in American history, because it has defended anti-American policies. They voted for the creation of the welfare state and obligatory military service. They are the base of the Democratic Party. And they are dying. And, at the same time, all the time more Americans have stocks. That makes them defend the interests of business, because it is their own interest. Because of that, it's impossible to bring to the fore policies of social hate, of class warfare." Grover Norquist in El Mundo

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Grover Norquist is a minion of Satan.

I hope he fries in Hell, preferably in the same lake of molten lava with KKKarl Rove.

[Beware the Beast Man]

2. Scum.

Puerile scum. These men fought against the same principles of fascism that Mr. Norquist clings on to so dearly. It's a scary age we live in.

[July]

3. The rest of the article is equally bad.

He says that if Kerry wins the Republican Congress won't let him do anything, and that if Bush wins, the Republicans will use their power in the legislative and executive branches to reinforce control of the judicial branch and thereby "finish" the Democratic Party, limit the people's ability to sue corporations, speed up the decline of unions, cut funding of public employees (he mentions professors as an example), and privatize us out of "the welfare state."

That's a rough version of a small part of the interview. Lots more about guns, Europe, etc. Aggressive nutjob, from what I can tell.

[Zero Division]

4. All very typical for one of the movers and shakers in the VRWC

More on Norquist here:
http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/grover_norquist.htm

He's part of the ugly face that hides behind the friendly veneer of the RNC, the "heart and soul" of America's rabid brand of Conservatism. More exposure of these guys can't hurt.

Fortunately he's also quite blinded by his ideological zeal. His belief that the demographics that support the Democratic party are in severe decline is way off base, for instance. Ruy Teixeira is just one guy who can solidly refute that.

[unslinkychild1]

5. And you guys think I"M NUTS for wanting to LEAVE????

THESE assholes say it all so plain, so soft spoken, so sincerely.... and we do NOTHING. I really like Kerry, but I don't think I want to go to Gitmo or French Glen with him.

Anybody actually KNOW anything about French Glen? I don't, but it seems a VERY scary place. Central Oregon, if you're curious. Saw it personally, so no tin foil hat theories, ok? Me and dad SAW it, took pictures. Very strange, very isolated, oddly new and built up--with BARRACKS.

[area51]

6. Can you post the pix? (n/t)

[unslinkychild1]

7. I dunno

I'm not very computer savy, don't have the pic ON my computer, but I DO have a scanner, etc. I'll see if I can get my old man on it--he knows how to do all that.

I think I have two pictures. Me and my dad were just creeped the hell out when we drove through there. A brand new, EMPTY town, way out in the middle of nowhere in Oregon, Malheur County, I think. Seemed like it was about 200 miles from any town in any direction. Could have been BLM property, but MAN was it spooky!

I'll look into posting them, 'k?

[RandomKoolzip]

15. What?

Please, tell me more about this Frenchglen. Sounds interesting. (Just did a Google Search....nothing odd came up.)

[unslinkychild1]

18. Does ANYTHING come up?

It IS on the roadmap we used, so we were expecting things like restaurants and a gas station or something. Well, there's a hotel and a general store (BOTH closed), but no gas station. Some very nice houses, and this odd barracks-like compound that Dad and I estimated could house some 500 people. The town was COMPLETELY EMPTY. No cars, no people, no NOTHING, but the houses were well-maintained, etc. It was so strange.

[RandomKoolzip]

19. Touristy stuff.

Guides, things like that.


I'm sure it's not another Mount Weather or anything. Maybe Camp Reagan.....

[JohnKleeb]

8. what a bastard

Those people were brave as hell, and I am proud to have gotten my economic philosophy from them.

[FarLeftRage]

9. There's a very special place in hell

for satanic, hateful scum like the alpha tax-cut monkey...

May it - POS grover go there quickly, as no one will miss it.

[Bandit]

10. This one sentence is quite disturbing

"Because of that, it's impossible to bring to the fore policies of social hate, of class warfare." Grover Norquist in El Mundo.

I understand this sentence to mean they want to bring to the fore policies of social hate and class warfare. Am I reading this wrong?

[Zero Division]

12. He's calling Dem policies "policies of hate, of class warfare"

Progressive taxation in the Republican mind is "class warfare" (usually unspoken but implied as against the wealthy).

[Green Lantern]

22. The repugs

are past masters of bringing this to the front (see "What's the Matter with Kansas") That is all they give us-see lack of issues, ideas relating to governance etc coming from RP ranks. They give the country hot button social issues instead to mask their fascist plans. They do class warfare very well, then scream class warfare at anyone else who brings it up, and Norquist is one of the worst.

[leftchick]

11. Grover is Evil Incarnate....

I think he is Omen IV... :scared:

[Eric J in MN]

13. Sam Seder on "The Majority Report" on Air America talked about

tonight (Janeane Garofalo's show.)

[Deja Q]

14. Didn't repukes give us overtime and the freedom of African Americans?

I'm sure that, if I bothered to look, I'd find other things that ancient republicans did that we'd find to be good.

But segregation and discrimination, in whatever form, still exist and are promoted by today's republicans. And as for overtime?

[ikojo]

16. No, overtime pay, which was part of the

Fair Labor and Standards Act was a Roosevelt (Democrat) thing..The Dems sure could use someone with the backbone of Roosevelt. For the most part Republicans and Southern Democrats (DINOs) have opposed most legislation that helped PEOPLE rather than property, corporations or the military.

http://www.newsbanner.com/articles/2004/09/07/news/news11.txt

The Fair Labor Standards Act was signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt on Saturday, June 25, 1938, nine days after Congress had adjourned. The law was spawned out of the depths of the Great Depression of the 1930's when sweat shops, low pay and poor working conditions were rampant throughout American businesses. The law was one of many of President Roosevelt's New Deal programs designed to correct these abuses and to establish certain minimum requirements for employees' hours of work, wages, overtime pay, child labor and other related workplace items.

snip

When President Roosevelt was campaigning for reelection in 1936, a young girl passed him a note that read, "I wish you could do something to help us girls - We have been working in a sewing factory - and up to a few months ago we were getting our minimum pay of $11 a week...Today the 200 of us girls have been cut down to $4 and $5 a week."

snip

The process leading up to the enactment of the FLSA was froth with acrimonious debate. The opposition came mostly from business groups, Republicans and southern Democrats in Congress. It was vigorously supported by labor unions and social agencies resulting in a minimum wage or 25 cents an hour being established with a minimum workweek of 44 hours. Forty years later it was reported by a distinguished news reporter that he asked incredulously, "My God! 25 cents an hour. Why all the fuss?"

And supposedly President Roosevelt expressed a similar comment when he said, "Do not let any calamity-howling executive with an income of $1,000 a day tell you that a wage of $11 a week is going to have disastrous effects on American industry."

[tom_paine]

17. Of course, Nosetwist, a Totalitarian Scum, would HATE

the generation that set Right-Wingism back 50 years when it defeated Mussolini and Hitler.

Naturally, this makes him a MONSTER, but we all knew that long before this.

[Strelnikov_]

20. Norquist Is A Patent Medicine Salesman Who Operates Behind The Scenes

pulling strings and telling the party faithful what they want to hear when doubts arise regarding the veracity of their plans.

Yes, Grover, the Democratic party may die off, due more to it's own disconnect from the people it used to represent than to GOP efforts. The problem is, my dear Grover, the party that rises from the ruins should be the one you worry about, much as the Republican party superceded the Whigs.

[leesa]

21. "anti-american" to have social safety nets?? This man should be

thrown out of the country.