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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:37 AM
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Need help debunking this: Wake Up Call for Liberal American Jews
This was passed along from my dad (who happens to be a conservative Dem) from a friend of mine from the synagouge. Help!


Subject: Wake Up Call for Liberal American Jews


http://www.muslimworldtoday.com/aisha.htm



Friday, August 27, 2004



Liberal America, Europe Slowly Rebelling Against The Values Required For Civilized Existence



By: Aisha Siddiqa Qureshi



Dear Jews, everywhere, I would like to point out the time bomb likely to explode in your faces. It has already been detonated in France. When it happens in the country you call home, you may be shocked and unprepared, so I present this letter to you as a warning. In it, I will inform you of some basic facts – facts that can never be changed.

1. You are a Jew, whether you like it or not.
It doesn't matter if you change your name. It doesn't matter if you convert. You say you don't think of yourself as Jewish? Perhaps Judaism is just too far beneath your enlightened consciousness. Well tough luck – it's still a part of who you are. I know, I know, this is the modern world.

In America, Jews are first class citizens. But it really is "only in America" where Jews enjoy equal status. Perhaps you have forgotten that with the exception of the United States and Israel, Jews in all other countries suffer the stigma of the outsider. Granted that your personal future looks bright since you overcame your ancestry, however, you mistakenly believe that you are a member of the elite club of secular society.

But, have you ever heard of the Holocaust? A little over 60 years ago, the discovery of one Jewish grandparent in one's family tree was enough to mark that person for the slaughter. That means that Jews living the high life in denial were plucked from their exalted status and plunged into the concentration camps and worse. And in the centuries and decades prior to the Holocaust, was life more secure? At certain periods, indeed it was – or so it seemed – and then, the inevitable fall from grace.

You have become used to being accepted. But, if you forget the stories of your ancestors, you are sure to see them come true in your own lives. Please believe me. Being a Muslim, living under the dark shadows of Islamism, I see, watch and experience every day the reach and depth of anti-Semitism that has taken hostage a whole people. There cannot be a better person than a Muslim to warn you of your misguided sense of liberalism; I live in an environment that is so carefully and skillfully prepared to annihilate Jews.

Note the rising anti-Semitism in Europe and in certain sectors of American society (college campuses, the media, the Presbyterian Church etc.) Just a few weeks ago, 200 French Jews immigrated to Israel, fed up with the rampant persecution by "Muslim toughs," as former New York City Mayor, Edward I. Koch puts it. The country which has pledged "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité" since the 1800s once again turned its back on the Jews. "Never again" is the oath the Jewish people have collectively sworn since the horrors of World War II. All freedom loving peoples of the world must actively participate in securing Jewish future to guarantee that this oath holds true. Jews truly are the chosen people – when things in the world go sour, Jews are chosen to pay the penalty.

2. The world has hated and will always hate Jews for one reason
Over the summer a friend of mine attended a lecture in Israel given by Rabbi Eric Coopersmith of Aish Ha Torah, entitled "Why the Jews?" He told me that Rabbi Eric disproved the common misconceptions of why the Jews are always picked on and got to the truth of the matter. It isn't because the Jews supposedly control the world and all the money in it (you don't), or because you killed Jesus (you didn't), or because you just happen to always be the scapegoat. I agree with Rabbi Coopersmith who pointed out that you can only scapegoat a group of people you were already willing to hate. His humorous example was that the Nazis couldn't scapegoat midgets and it's true – it would never work. Whether they realize it or not, people are and have always been willing to hate the Jews for one simple reason: they gave the world the concept of an objective right and wrong.

When the first seeds of Judaism were planted in Abraham, his descendents were required to teach humanity about conscience and morality. In a time of universal barbarism and cruelty, the ancient Hebrews were the first to adopt for themselves the six values essential for civilized existence: the sanctity of life, education, family, social responsibility, equality before the law, and peace (Source: WorldPerfect by Ken Spiro). In my view, the ancient world couldn't forgive you for it and neither could Hitler. In his writings, Hitler clearly said that he is a barbarian who wants to express his primal instincts and Judaism says he can't. For him, not only is the concept of conscience "a Jewish invention; it is a blemish, like circumcision." The infamous Hitler Youth even sang a song with these lyrics:

_We are the joyous Hitler Youth;
_We have no need for Christian virtue.
_Our leader is our savior;
_The pope and rabbi shall be gone.
_We shall be pagans once again.

Hitler also told his people that Providence has ordained that I should be the greatest liberator of humanity. I am freeing man from the restraints of an intelligence that has taken charge, from the dirty and degrading self-mortifications of a false vision known as conscience and morality, and from the demands of a freedom and personal independence which only a very few can bear.
(Visit http://www.aish.com/seminars/whythejews/wtj01000.htm for the full seminar.)

Yes, even though Hitler is Hitler and he was no liberal, the comparison matters because liberal America and Europe are slowly rebelling against the values required for civilized existence. These are the values advanced in the Jewish Bible, specifically the Torah, and summed up in the 10 Commandments. These values were offered – though hardly accepted – to all of humanity through the vehicles of Judaism and Christianity. But, liberals, either through base ignorance or intention, are rejecting those values in word and deed. Example: a deaf lesbian couple genetically engineered two deaf children on purpose! If you don't see what is wrong with that – how selfish and cruel it is for parents to deliberately handicap children they supposedly love and are required to care for – then I've made my point. You have abandoned the notion of objective morality, feeling that it stifles your freedom of action. You have become a barbarian that feels he can do whatever he wants and, like Hitler, is proud of it.

3. You can't have your cake and eat it too. And if you lose your cake, there's nothing to eat.
I really like animals and I really care about the environment. I am also in favor of women's rights. But you know what? None of it matters. "Yes it does matter!" I can hear you thinking. But here's my answer: we have bigger problems! Civilization as we know it is in jeopardy because liberals are so eager to abandon the values on which it rests. They are not willing to support the institutions that safeguard those values. Case in point: radical Islam threatens to subjugate the world and murder, enslave or convert all non-Muslims. Liberals are not even willing to support the institution most necessary for our defense against radical Islam: the military. Instead, they blame America.

To them, America is the immoral bully. Likewise, Israel is another immoral bully that liberals are reluctant to support. But in actuality, Israel has been a victim of Islamist terrorism since the 1920s, long before the state was established. The same terrorism is now being waged worldwide, even against countries, like Saudi Arabia, that sponsor it! Israel is on the front lines of Islamist terrorism and Americans, especially American Jews, should support it. Liberals undercut American efforts and damage the morale of our troops by questioning the war while it is being waged! Some say the war is a mistake, that it is just a pompous show of American imperialism. Others go as far as to claim that we are fighting an enemy of our own invention, denying Saddam Hussein's link to global terrorism, and assuming that just because WMDs have not been discovered yet, they do not exist.

My friends, after 9/11, how can you possibly assert that war against Islamist terrorism is unjustified? Should we trust the terrorist supporters who, in English, deny that they are waging global jihad against the civilized world, yet say it outright in their own language? Liberals would rather trust Saddam than our own president. Israel's fight is civilization's fight and we must support it before the same unremitting terror comes to our own shores. We must show that we are willing to fight and expect to win.

Liberals criticize the United States for not involving the U.N. in its war on terror. But if you care about Israel, why would you want the U.S. to empower an institution that is corrupt, anti-Semitic, and anti-Zionist?

I know a lot of liberal Jews who support Israel. Here's what I say to them – they can just give themselves a big old pat on the back because that's really all they're going to get from anyone. In other words, there's nothing to be gained by voting for Kerry with respect to Israel but I'll tell you what you risk losing: our "cake" – Israel.

As a liberal Jew, you think that by voting as a democrat you will save the earth and all its peaceful creatures, and by some crazy extension, Israel's survival will somehow be guaranteed. You don't believe that war solves anything and neither does your presidential candidate. You and Kerry believe that diplomacy and appeasement will protect Israel, even while its Arab enemies send in suicide bombers to kill civilians, and launch mortar and rocket attacks on schools, synagogues, and hospitals. Right?

Wrong. To quote the guys at Protest Warrior (www.protestwarrior.com) "Except for ending slavery, Fascism, Nazism, and Communism, war has never solved anything!" You may want peace – and believe me, so do I – but do you know who doesn't want peace? Arafat, Saddam, Bin Laden, and all their brainwashed followers – the illiterate as well as the many literate ones – who blame America and Israel for their problems instead of their self-indulgent, sadistic dictators. Okay, they actually do want peace, but all of infidels have to convert to Islam first. That's not going to work for anyone who believes in truth and justice. We can pretend that our enemies share our values and see the world the same way we see it, but the truth still remains – they won't budge from their positions, forcing us to act as appeasers in an ever futile attempt to win their favor.

To paraphrase Daniel Pipes, appeasement doesn't work against ideologically driven opponents. They see it as a show of weakness and hence, a victory for themselves. It didn't work with Nazis and it's not going to work with our enemies of today either. We can't make peace with people who don't want peace. And if they say they want peace, we need to evaluate their actions before we blindly accept their words as gospel, as we have so many times in the past.

Speaking of empty words and promises, don't be duped by the 2004 election propaganda from either party. So when the Kerry-Edwards "Greetings from the Jewish Outreach Team" tells you that John Kerry plans to wean America off its dependence on the Saudis, don't buy it. Don't assume that Kerry's the better candidate believing that he, unlike Bush, is not in bed with the Saudis. Folks, the bed is a lot bigger than you think, and there's plenty of space taken up by Kerry. Sure, George W. Bush is no George Washington but that doesn't automatically make Kerry Abe Lincoln. Translation: we must vote for the lesser of two evils.

The Saudis will be tied up with our government no matter who wins (source: Sleeping with the Devil by Robert Baer), which makes the entire subject of Saudi dependence a non-issue. In the words of Dr. Jack Wheeler, "The American game of life is poker. All of us are in the highest-stakes game of our lives right now and the only way to back out is to leave the table – leave America and move somewhere else. If you're staying put, then you're in the game, and you play the hand you're dealt.

There is absolutely no escaping from this reality: either John Kerry or George Bush will be elected President of the United States this November."

But wait! If you're a Jew, how can you possibly support the religious Right which seeks to convert you? Here's my response. First, I feel much more comfortable supporting a party that is based on JUDEO-Christian VALUES. Look guys – values! Second, they've been trying to convert the Jews for over 2000 years. Has it worked? No it hasn't – you are still here. Third, they may want to convert you, but at least they don't want to slice off our heads and parade around holding our body parts. Your real enemies have done more than just taunt you with their master plan. You have seen the plan and how it works. Why are you not more shaken by that?

So you may love your live minks and your trees and trust me, I'm happy for your diverse, non-discriminating family, but at the end of the day you're still a Jew, remember? And if you've ever taken the time to stroll through history, you'd know that the one thing that makes Jews of today so much more privileged than Jews of the past is the fact that you have a state.

When France, or Germany, or God forbid, America doesn't want you anymore, Israel will take you in. Can you imagine being told you have a matter of days to leave your home and you have nowhere to go? A Jewish friend of mine says, she certainly can't imagine it but her great-grandparents were there. It was a time when there was no Israel and America had already closed her gates – the fact that her grandmother and her parents were admitted to this country is nothing short of miraculous. The rest of their family wasn't so fortunate.

I beg of you, put your vanities aside and for the sake of your children, let's make sure they have somewhere to go. Your real protection is there, in the heart of the Middle East, surrounded by twenty-two Arab nations that all want to devour it. It's there, and it's your, but more often than not, Israel's very existence is dangling by a thread. That was the case in 1948, 1967, 1973, and countless other times, including now – 2004. You have no time to waste. Help let the world know that you are here to stay. With a homeland, your survival is guaranteed; without one, your own lives are also on the line. You can assimilate as much as you want but that doesn't change your inherent Jewish blood and DNA.

The Jew-haters of the world want to eradicate every trace of you. They will not be satisfied by simply watering you down. That was Hitler's belief. Radical Muslim enemies share his goal and are attempting to carry out his plan. Bush understands their end-game. Do you?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:45 AM
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1. This was forged in the nowels of the Goebbelsian Bushevik Movement
Funny that the Busheviks contain such a high percentage of Jew-Haters.

These Nazi Monsters believe they can sell Jews the Iron Fist of Nazi-style Propaganda and Totalitarianism, with the implied promise "that it won't be us this time".

Bush = Kinder and Gentler Nazi

But Uncle Karl and his minions desire to sell Jews the very ideology that will destroy us. Funny how, as ususal, they project their Nazification on their Liberal enemies.

Of course, MANY Jews still remember that Hitler hated the Liberals as much as he hated the Jews, and that not much has chnaged except a need to camoflauge it.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:48 AM
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2. quote from protestwarrior
pretty much discredits this whole screed
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:49 AM
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3. Such rubbish so early in the morning...
.. seems that someone, a Bush operative, has written this. Does anyone realize now, that these email chain things are coming from the Bush operatives? They are not grassroots emails now?

My only response to this, because it's too wordy to address, is this.. enabling Bush, because they think that it will somehow save Israel, is ridiculous.. unless all Jews plan to move to Israel. The Bush Administration is making life in America impossible for everyone. Do they really want to sacrifice their liberties here at home, in the mistaken belief that they are helping Israel? Sharon will be booted out on his ass, as he is a thug.. just as Bush is. He is no more a friend to the liberal Jew, than Bush is. If this email writers is suggesting, as it seems, that the liberal Jews should abandon their concern for fellow Americans, then your reply should include the wonderful piece, 'when they came for me, no one was left to speak up for me'. That is what they are facing if they embrace the direction Bush and PNAC is taking in the world. The violence in Israel will only get worse, as it has in Iraq, because of Bush and Sharon's heavy hand. The writer of that email is trying to force them to become one-issue voters, which is simplistic and stupid. Perhaps the liberal Jews are far too intelligent to ignore the fact that they are being courted as simply a PAWN in the Conservative Right's scenario for the end times. They are trying to use the Jews to fulfill their bizzare end times fantasy... where they think that the Jews will convert to Jesus at the last minute, and where the Jews must have control of the HOly Land in order for it to happen. I don't think any liberal Jew relishes the idea of being used by these dangerous idealogues.



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mastein Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:50 AM
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4. Howdy HawkeyeX and I have some insight
This piece is simply propaganda from the reich. The moderate Jewish community, similar to Catholics is a swing block this year. This is simply a scare tactic to help those in the current cabal. I will give them enough credit to say it is well written propeganda. Also, do you think that there are some Muslims who stand to gain from "defense"/Jihad spending done by groups that may have put this tripe out?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:52 AM
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5. Dead giveaway that this was written by a Jewish American
"In America, Jews are first class citizens. But it really is "only in America" where Jews enjoy equal status. Perhaps you have forgotten that with the exception of the United States and Israel, Jews in all other countries suffer the stigma of the outsider. Granted that your personal future looks bright since you overcame your ancestry, however, you mistakenly believe that you are a member of the elite club of secular society."


Who else would know the phrase "only in America?" :eyes:
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:54 AM
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6. The Nazis claimed to be Christian
The belt buckles of their uniforms said "Gott mit uns," God with us.

So the claim that they sang an anthem with the words "We have no need for Christian virtue" is, to say the least, suspect.

Hope that helps. I don't have the stomach to read the rest of this crap right now.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:57 AM
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7. The Abrahamic god is a god of male supremacy, not benigh civilization
The Abrahamic god didn't mind when some of his priests and judges abused and murdered women under their care. And rape is viewed by Mosaid law as a for of adultery where both the woman, who is the victim, and the male perpetrator should be stoned to death.

Anyway, ancient Israel was really at best a minor super-state or empire under Solomon, and it quickly fell when neighboring powers, stronger than it in both military and economic power attacked it. In some ways, the militant behavior of ancient Israelites is not much different that what we see in the extremist Zionists of today.

Personally, my beef with Israel is that it is making the same mistakes that Christianity did after Christianity became the state religion of the Roman empire -- the persecuted become the next generation of persecutors. European Jews had as much right to modern Palestine that Great Britain had to Ireland -- none. Mahatma Gandhi rightly opposed the formation of the state of Israel in British occupied Palestine. He forsaw the suffering that would be created by such a state.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:09 PM
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8. "You can't have your cake and eat it too."
"And if you lose your cake, there's nothing to eat."

These two sentences don't seem like they belong right after each other like that.
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 12:12 PM
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9. Only an idiot American republican...
would use the word "Islamism."
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