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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:57 PM
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Conversation With Republican Manager
All right, so I'm in my office today, and my boss comes by. He starts talking about a bunch of stuff and I was kind of zoning out on him. He was saying something about repairs being done on his house, but the workers were screwing him around or something. Then he slips in some sort of lame joke about John Kerry. I can't remember what he said, just that it was dumb and that I would have thought it was dumb even if I was a Republican.

I didn't say anything, I just pointed to my Kerry/Edwards campaign button that I attached to the bulletin board in my office. Here's the conversation that took place, as close as I can remember it:

HIM: People shouldn't be able to have that sort of stuff in their office. It's devisive, it isn't productive.

ME (thinking): Yeah, like your lame John Kerry jokes aren't devisive or nonproductive.

ME (saying): Whatever.

HIM: Just tell me one thing. You didn't vote for Bill Clinton, did you?

ME: I wasn't old enough to vote for Bill Clinton.

HIM: I didn't like George H.W. Bush, because he was a flip-flopper, but he was better than the alternative. His son is definitely a better president though. He's not as wishy-washy. He makes a decision and sticks with it.

ME: There's a difference between making a decision and sticking with it, and making a BAD decision and sticking with it.

HIM: Well, you've got to make decisions. If nobody in this company made decisions, this company wouldn't go anywhere.

ME: Well, first of all, it's better to stay still than to drive decisively into a wall. Second, Einstein's definition of insanity is continuing to do the same thing and expecting the results to be different. So if you make a decision, fine. But if you make a wrong decision, correct yourself. Don't sacrifice sanity or intelligence in favor of decisiveness. If I made a decision that was wrong --

HIM: If you made a decision that was wrong, I would support you as long as you thought it was the best way to go.

ME: If I made a decision that was wrong but I thought it was the best way to go, you would support me THE FIRST TIME. But what if I kept doing the same screwed-up thing, even after it was very clear that it was the wrong thing to do, simply because I wanted to be 'decisive' and was too stubborn to admit that my previous decision had been wrong?

He shut up pretty much after that. I don't know if it was because he didn't want to argue anymore, or he just figured he would lose (he's the last person on Earth I would expect to see turn into a Kerry covert or anything like that). I usually clam up as soon as he starts in about religion or politics, but today he got me when I was feeling sort of irreverent.

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:00 PM
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1. My take:
He would like to use his position of job security to coerce you into voting for Chimpy.

I have $5.00 that says that is going on in his mind.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:04 PM
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4. He Can Try All He Likes
I'm about as solid blue as he's ever seen, and he already knows he doesn't like me when I'm angry.

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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:05 PM
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5. nice work standing up for yourself
So your stupid boss likes "decisive" people. Yeah, well how bout when one of his employees or stock managers decides to be "decisive" and invest all of his money into failing company's stocks. I'm sure your boss would be quite all right with that because what the hell, his stock manager was "decisive". If being "decisive" is all lame repugs can come up with, then they are complete morons. That argument is defeated so quickly with a few phrases of actual rational thinking that it's not even funny.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:03 PM
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2. Sounds a lot like my day...
I have come to realize that I am definitely in the minority at my job. Today the manager of my unit actually said she thought we should nuke Iraq! One of the other Repub nurses said that the Democrats wouldn't let them (derisively). I couldn't believe it. I said something about how I'd like to live and not kill a million innocent people for my country's convenience. They didn't seem to get it.
I was appalled. I actually thought maybe I should quit my job because I really can't respect them anymore. So much for the Nightingale pledge, sheesh!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:08 PM
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6. Good Lord, this from nurses? Maybe you should warn them that the selective
draft will target certain professions and won't be limited to 20 year olds.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:03 PM
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3. Nice work
What a dick. I'm sooooo outnumbered at work. I got into it with a female co-worker recently (whose son worked for a certain repuke congressman, and who went to Florida in 2000 to "help" with the recount...she's so dilusional) Anyway, I hadn't spoken 10 words before I had people from several cubes over, coming to my cube to bash Kerry. I held my own though.

You did a good job!
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:09 PM
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7. sounds like your positions should be reversed (I mean job positions!)
You should be the boss.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:12 PM
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9. I'm Working On It
Someday.



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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:18 PM
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8. What an f-ing hypocrite
He comes over to your workspace, uninvited, and makes a stupid joke about Kerry. Then he accuses you of contributing to office dischord. Boy whoever this guy is, he is truly brainwashed. He is a miniature Rove...disarm your opponent by taking away all their ammo. Then flip flop (make inappropriate political comments then slam someone else for their being political). Finally, pretend to be so adamant about a position as to look insane, and ignore how stupid you really look. If this guy had the media in his back pocket, you could slap his ass and call him KKKarl.
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