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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:08 PM
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The Iraqi Women in Prison
is it yes or no?.US says NO women in the prisons.....then turns around and this turns up:
The U.S. military says women are not held at either facility but has acknowledged it is holding two female "security prisoners" elsewhere. They are Dr. Rihab Rashid Taha, a scientist who became known as "Dr. Germ" for helping Iraq make weapons out of anthrax, and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash, a biotech researcher known as "Mrs. Anthrax."

Does our country know what the f'ing hell they are doing over there?........it one f'ing lie after another!
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laura888 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:12 PM
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1. good question. This demand for female prisoner release opens questions
maybe the kidnappers know more than we do. I wouldn't be surprised.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:15 PM
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2. these have to be the women
they want released........the US stood firm and said we held none.............we've been lied to again.......and beheadings are occuring because of it!
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DrWeird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:16 PM
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3. We're holding lots of women.
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 08:17 PM by DrWeird
There is, or was, a woman's wing at Abu Ghraib. The only policy that changed after the scandal was that they wouldn't let digital cameras in the prisons. Does anybody really think we're treating the prisoners any better?

Earlier in the war the military was practically bragging about how they captured the family of an Iraqi general and were using them as hostages. I swear its amazing how people put blinders on themselves.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 08:27 PM
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4. women held as hostages -
That has been my impression. I seem to remember reading accounts of troops looking for rebels, not finding them, and taking family and holding them.
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:44 PM
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5. Our own military reported that they were holding wives and daughters
of Saddam regime officials as bait to get the men to turn themselves in. I am looking for the link.

We lie about everything. We can't release these women because they will talk and tell what was done to them or they may even make up stuff. Either way all hell will surely break loose if these women are ever released in Iraq. The best thing for us to do is to fly them out of the country and make them citizens.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 11:56 PM
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6. Holy shit! Those are Saddam tactics we are using.
This is so shocking to me that we would use the same tactics as Saddam did - take family members as hostages to get at the guy ('course he would torture them - we wouldn't do that :eyes: )

Sometimes I just feel sick.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 12:16 AM
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7. US hostages is
a War Crime under the Geneva Convention. If this was admitted then that is another time guilt of War Crimes has been publicly admitted.

Also, holding prisoners secretly is a War Crime. The Pres. said that the US is at war in Iraq, therefore The Geneva Convention Rules apply.

Rumsfailed Admitted to Violating Geneva Convention

Rumsfailed admitted in public on TV that when CIA Director Tenet requested that an Iraqi prisoner be sent to a secret Afghan/US Prison that Rumsfailed did so. After four months a DOD Attorney stated that this was an illegal act. Rumsfailed then ordered that this prisoner be sent back to Abu Graihib but the prisoner was purposefully not listed at that location, also an illegal act. Rumfailed has commted two violations of the Geneva Convention; thereby also violations of The Constitution of the USA. Recently it has been found out that even more detainees were "ghost detainees". The fact that Rumsfailed and Tenet have not been charged speaks volumes. If Congress wishes to garner any respect they should move forward with Rep. Rangle's Impeachment Declaration of Rumsfailed and also proscecute Ex. CIA Tenet.

Does the US, Govt., Congress, and the Justice Dept no longer abide by the Geneva Convention or the Constitution of the USA?

It is obvious that this is the case!.
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