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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 12:05 PM
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My metaphyical talk Cont. 2


Here is my reply

>>Michael
>>Hi
>>
>>I operate outside the paradigm
>
>clearly,
>
>>BUT I also realize
>>some things are not of spirit and I waste no time trying to
>>say they are.
>
>that is not true. You are still deeply immersed in the
>illusions of duality.

Duality is not an illusion. How can you prove to me it is not beyond saying"believe".Because sorry I do not"believe".My journeys are different.They teach me different things about the nature of god and reality. It goes against most of the crowd,but I don't care I am not afraid to be different.

>>It's "bad fruit" It will make me sick in my
>
>

>You are a light worker. You voluntarily came here but you have
?been totally taken off guard by the negativity of this world.

No I was forced here. I remember flying,or at least the sensation of it. And this force not much different than a fist crushed me,compacted me slamming me in "here" into a fetus.My birth was very difficult because I did not want to come here. I was pulled out of my mom by force.
This vision was as clear as the positive ones I have had.


>You were told it would be this bad but you did not believe it
>Now, after experiencing the utter horror of life "in the
>trenches" you are having difficulty remembering who you are.

How can you say this about me? You are making alot of assumptions here.Can you tell me something besides "have faith" in your opinion about this unknown? Have you seen what I have seen? I doubt it.
I am a feline spirit /s I have no gender I am a rainbow colored lightning bolt of sorts.
>
>This difficulty is being compounded by all the "demons"
>floating round you now.

Every fortune teller says "ooh there are Daaark forces around you"
Actually some dark forces just look dark but they are not.And considering all this oneness you said above to point out that I might have a demon is a bit dualistic of you in case you haven't noticed.
Some forces look liker light but they are mean as anything.
This is why discernment matters.

>They pray on your fear and uncertainty
>and they insert their corrupt ideas into your consciousness in
>order to prevent you from seeing through to the light.

People do this to little children too.

Fear is something this Earth vibrates heavily because it is being tortured and it's light part is in bondage to the cancer consciousness.. And what is a corrupt idea if it isn't the"bad fruit" and cancerous consciousness I am talking about?
>
>These demons are not evel. They are simply lost souls if you
>will.
I dunno they could be ignorant, different than light,half made beings,
But I have seen directly into them.And they are not like me inside .There is no flame in them,not even a black flame..Sorry they are alien to this reality. Or maybe WE are the aliens to this reality.

>They are the same as you and I. They are just farther lost in
>the darkness.
Maybe maybe not.That's a BIG assumption.
Where does light go when you turn it out?
Not all lights burn eternal.Choice is one part of this equation and some choose dark.And they are toxic to me. They may never see what's good for them because maybe it kills them.
>
>These demons, knowing what' good for them and recognizing
>their time here is done, will now move away from you. It will
>help if you tell them to bugger off and never return.

Demons don't come around me anymore.They did years ago. I have no tweak phenomena.sorry. I am not scared of anything from other dimensions really.My power and sight is strong I walk with Sekhmet and Missipeshu. I have peered into the abyss for real and demons do not bother with me anymore.I have been through trials in life that would kill most people.
>
>Now, it is time to release all that energy that you have held
>within you for so long. There is no longer any reason to hold
>onto it. Release it and remember,

Release what? Energy? I release energy all the time I get as hot as fire when I do meditation and I shift through dimensions. People have seen me half faded away and freaked out, things have blown up,an inkwell,a rock. I have shut off the fuses in my house and caught lamps on fire with this "energy" It comes out of me sometimes on it's own.I am a reiki master, I have done medicine(learned it from my folks) Things like extractions,exorcisms and all. I pull parasitic entities off people all the time.I am familiar with the demonic.Familiar enough to know something about it and it is familiar enough with me,not to mess around with me.I am invisible to it..
>
>The universe is a universe of love.
Yes it is..
except it is in bondage to the absence of love.
The "evil" is something that does not recognize love.It is totally different than us.

If this universe was not in bondage why would we be trying so hard to ascend OUT of this state of how things are now for. Why are we ascending if where we are now is not somehow uncomfortable,tortured trapped and wanting escape from something? Why ascend unless you are ascending away from something by either co-opting it,or merging with'light'?? Can you answer this one?
>
>There is only one God.

One god/dess (it has no gender)
Many faces and shapes

Another god,the Demiurge,a control freak with many faces born of a being beyond him he can't comprehend(because he is half blind it makes him insecure and crazy) so he says he is the only one..He has no spark.
The being that is beyond him wants us to come home,we are deep inside sparks of it's own kind. Those sparks of us who want to ascend and be free want to go home to mother. But we are trapped here, encased in a fragile corruptible shell,and it wants to stay here,play games and survive forever and win.This is the nature of dense dark materiality that feels like bondage to light. Delusions about light,love and oneness is one way dark demiurges trap us here.It holds us for as long as it can,it deludes us by lying about it's nature,claiming to be the ONLY god,it holds us hostage with our own goodness, duty service,kindness,compassion,.So by saying we chose to be here, the demiurge is hoping the next time we die we might stay with it mired here in the dark forever,doing service to him feeling pain so this half crazy god with no fire of his own inside can live by parasiting off our energy,It is what limits us lies, makes us react with fear and hate because that is what it feeds on,to feel alive and feel in control ,because he uses what was stolen from the being beyond him...because he doesn't have it or generate it because he is dead spiritless.

I don't like 99% of the bible but there are a few pieces of wisdom that wasn't edited out.

It said Satan controls this Earth
That Satan is the demiurge none other than the arrogant, allegedly omnipotent liar,One god.
>
>And we are it.

Yep and we is two gods in one body..One part light beyond trying to ascend, one part varying degrees of sick in my observation.
We are a sick,shattered,tortured god of a divided heart.Half wanting to stay half wanting to go home.Torture,the evil part (not the shadow self) caused this,The God that claims to be the one god,the god of vengeance and domination.The Yahweh who is half blind and denies anything could be beyond him,holds us in bondage and all of creation groans.
Sometimes you can't reclaim it all. Sometimes you have to amputate the gangrenous limb that causes your fever delusions and let it go to it's kind,the outer dark.
To force dark into light would torture it and recreate for it the need to descend away further into dark(which would be the opposite to our ascension).Long ago before the roman emperors got at the texts of the bible and edited it to suit their state control designs,the bible was Gnostic.It was dualist. The more authoritarian power structures of this world are threatened by dualism. Because dualism recognizes that a dominator(worldly or spiritual ) has no authority over your own godhood and your perceptions of what is.A dominator called THE ONE has no right to take your light and merge it into itself just because it thinks it is 'good' when even it's own words reek of corruption abuse and too human arrogance. I real god/dess is far above saying vengeance is mine..
Please don't give me platitudes I have heard countless times before,please consider what I am saying and what it means.Talk to me,not at me.

Take care,
U Panther
\

>it is clear you have all your truths neatly tucked away in
>that consciousness of your.
>
>Your are free to live in these truths if you wish though how
>much longer they will manifest on this earth is an important
>question you need to be asking yourself.

I ask myself that question everyday ..
I guess you didn't read my other letters to you did ya?
They will manifest as long as people do not ask more questions like :

If all is one source and it is all good and all light and that light is all there is, how can being far away from this all encompassing source of light be negative?If it is just one source that has no evil in itself? What makes the far away emanations negative if all is positive and one positive source of all? So,what is making the positive turn negative? If all there is is postive light?


>
>Myself, I prefer not to suffer as you do

Why do you assume I am suffering because I disagree with you? That's rude.It's a very arrogant assumption you make.
You have not even attempted to tackle my questions about the nature of spirit.Why?

Looks to me like you give one line dogmatic pladitudes to people trying to talk about the nature of reality .Dogma and platitudes are not answers.Your dogmatic assertions about me have nothing to do with my questions about the nature of God.I wonder are you capable of compassion and listening if someone with a diffrerent experince than yours concerning the unknown asks them? This rigidity of yours is dualistic,and it makes you look like a charlatan, a cold reader,a wannbabe new age guru. Not like a genuine person who's truly concerned with really finding out what is going on in metaphysical realms and asking yourself the hard questions that may strengthen your own beliefs by looking at what if's on many sides and asking questions that test 'faith' and make it strong.


Last attempt,
wanna tacle any of these questions ? Show me what you are about...
Show me that you are more spiritual than feel good dogmas.I'd like to think you capble of considering a person different than you are without being assuming..


If god is all one,all powerful the ONE and only source of all ... It does not need to learn anything,because it KNOWS it already. A god that is all that is does not need my help if it really is all there is.It knows already how to help itself. If I am god with a memory problem how come there aren't more of these gods remembering enough how to have a real effects on helping this existance get better?
How come after millions of years of lightwork war has not stopped?
Something must be interfering with the emanations.Something not good.
So if God is all there is than god tortures iself and suffers at it's own designs.

But I guess you will choose to ignore these questions too.I guess it feels too upsetting to be shown your 'enlightenment' stinks.
Oh well,so much for a "conversation" with someone who is scared to spiritually think beyond his own experinces and see another person might have a diferent one.
At least I can say I did what spirit in me prompted.
Sometimes I gotta admit ears don't hear.

Maybe someday..you'll be able to.

You need to allow others to have different experinces than your kind.
I did not choose to suffer by being forced here.

YOU may have chosen to hurt yourself ,to come here if that's fine for you that's your issue. But why do you dogmatically insist everyone HAS to see thier reason for being here is just like how YOU see yours.Why do you insist I chose to be here? Where does this absolute dogma of YOURS come from?
>
>peace on your journey

Peace on yours..

U Panther
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