If Bush is elected,he will unleash a massive assault in Iraq.

[Veggie Meathead]

I am afraid many Iraqi civilians will face death.To cover up his failure,his attacks will be savage.He will try to score points from his sheeplike followers for "leadership". Count on a destructive spree like you never imagined before.

[pss]

1. I think he's gonna do that...

...if he loses as well.

[Veggie Meathead]

2. You may very well be right. A man who preys on the weak and

defenseless.

[lostnfound]

31. General Hoare: "decision has been made to attack Fallujah" after election

According to a UK Guardian article this week:

General Hoare believes from the information he has received that "a decision has been made" to attack Fallujah "after the first Tuesday in November. That's the cynical part of it - after the election. The signs are all there."

He compares any such planned attack to the late Syrian dictator Hafez al-Asad's razing of the rebel city of Hama. "You could flatten it," said Hoare. "US military forces would prevail, casualties would be high, there would be inconclusive results with respect to the bad guys, their leadership would escape, and civilians would be caught in the middle. I hate that phrase collateral damage. And they talked about dancing in the street, a beacon for democracy."

[ClintonTyree]

3. Will that come................

before or after the bombing attacks on Iran? Just curious.

[Veggie Meathead]

5. Iraq is going to pay one way or another for showing up what a coward

this socalled Leader is.

[Veggie Meathead]

7. I think as a coward who preys on the weak he is likely to exact

vengeance on Iraq because Iran will be a more formidable enemy that the Maximum Leader would be afraid to take on.

[Catt03]

4. I think he will invade Iran

and leave Irag just as Afganistan was left.

We will be go to war with North Korea
The draft will be reinstated

First, he will make the tax cut permanent and begin a new round.

The Patriot Act will expand.

The Constitution will be changed; prayer in school and marriage ammendment.

The Supreme Court will change and Roe v Wade will be overturned

Faith based programs wil be injected into public education and vouchers will become the law

More people will be executed in each state and federal

The FCC will allow media consolidation

Social security will be privatized as will many other programs

Unions will be become obsolete

wrongful death and malpractice law suits against corporations and insurance companies will end

Health insurance will be for only the very wealthy as will prescription drugs

Medicare will begin it's death gasp

I don't have anymore room :cry:

[joshdawg]

9. Damn!

I hate to agree with you, but common sense says I must. All of this WILL happen if bush* gets selected again.
I feel sorry for my country.
I have pity for the unfortunates who vote for bush*.
And scorn!

[AIJ Alom]

14. It will not happen.

Because America will again elect it's leader (John Kerry). What's it been, 8 years now since the American public got to participate in an election ?

Invading Iran is basically begging for trouble. Not only will we giving the hardliners an excuse to re-establish their all out supremacy, we will be ending years of gains by moderates in Iran. Then we face the possibilty of inciting a chain reaction like revolt amongst Iraq's Shi'te majority. American forces would then be in a compelling situation where our soldiers are expected to fight the enemy at the front and battle their supporters to keep the supply lines going.

[bvar22]

24. Since when did logic and common sense....

...deter bush* and friends from their goals?

[Dems Will Win]

22. Draft Alert Flyer, Hang Everywhere!

Printable pdf: http: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf

In May, the Seattle Post Intelligencer published an article about a document they received through the Freedom of Information Act. It was revealed that the SSS is currently “designing procedures” for the implementation of a “Skills Draft” after holding a top-level meeting on it with Deputy Undersecretaries at the Defense Department. This draft would change the very mission of the Selective Service and require “virtually every young American”, male and female ages 18-34, to register for the Skills Draft and list all the occupations they are proficient in to fill labor shortages throughout nearly the entire government.

Here, for the first time, is the FOI document itself:

http://blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

This document is real, having been acknowledged by the DoD and the SSS when they said no action is being taken on it at the present time, as reported:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

Although Congress would have to approve new legislation to create a Skills Draft or reinstate the combat draft, Family Circle reported in its July 13 issue that Karl Rove has polled GOP members of Congress in September 2002 to see if they would support the President if he requests reinstatement. The Republicans said they would vote for the draft.

In addition, the SSS itself has said that it is “designing procedures” (Seattle PI, May 1, 2004) to implement the skills draft, meaning designing the compliance cards and the data fields needed to keep track of “virtually every young American” and their skills. Acting Director of the SSS Brodsky has also said the Skills Draft is the “top priority” of the Selective Service for 2004. The Issue Paper options include:

- Allow a non-combat draft for shortages in critical skills, without calling a combat draft.

- Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the Dept. of Homeland Security and other agencies, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist.

- Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young person would be forced to send in a “self-declaration” of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list of occupations like the Armed Forces Specialty Code. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine would apply to all non-registrants.

In the secret planning meeting document, the next steps strongly recommended by SSS Acting Director Brodsky were:

1. “Promptly” redefine the SSS Mission to draft men and women up to age 34 for skills, and deliver them within 90 days or sooner to the Department of Defense. Program a massive database to be ready to enter millions of names of those registering their critical skills.

2. Expand mission to deliver personnel in skills draft to the Department of Homeland Security and other agencies, including FEMA, NSC, Border Patrol, INS, Customs, Corporation for National Service, Public Health Service and other agencies.

3. Form interagency task force to provide Administration with recommendation on this skills draft for the entire government.

4. Obtain White House Statement of Administration Policy on the future of the SSS.

5. Be prepared to market the skills draft, raising the non-combat age to 34 and the drafting of women to the Armed Services and Appropriations Committee.

In contrast to this planning and preparation to create a targeted draft, Kerry plans to spend an additional $7 billion to strengthen the Volunteer Army in what is essentially a “No-Draft Plan”. Moreover, Kerry is strongly opposed to the neo-con plan revealed in Wes Clark’s book Winning Modern Wars, in which Clark was told by a senior Pentagon official that invasions of Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Sudan and Somalia were planned and still to come over the next three years.

DON'T FORGET TO USE THE .PDF NOT THE .GIF FILE.

BUSH '04 = DRAFT '05

KERRY '04 = PNAC OUT THE DOOR!

For more Flyers: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/

[supercrash]

6. LOL....

Al'Qaeda attacked the US for no reason and killed innocent people

Bush attacked Iraq for no reason and killed FAR MORE innocent poeple


The 9-11 attacks have been justified, we deserve what is coming

[AIJ Alom]

13. I don't agree with your statement entirely.

"The 9-11 attacks have been justified, we deserve what is coming"

We, as in Americans and our brave soldiers on the ground do not deserve what is coming.

However, the Bush mis-administration does deserve what is coming and that is a swift boot from office come Nov. 2nd.

[supercrash]

15. I disagree...

Before the Iraq war there was massive support for it...even from Democrats.

You cannot invade a country based on lies and torture innocent people and NOT expect it to come home to roost

The lies were exposed before the war started...The IAEA report Bush cited that he claimed said Saddam was 6 months away from a nuke...EXPOSED as a lie by the IAEA.

The forged documents that were sumbitted to the UN...EXPOSED

The UN inspectors came up empty...EXPOSED

The American people cannot claim they were tricked, the gig was up before it even started, and if you support a war based on lies...then you deserve to reap what you sow, and that just might be your death in the next terrorist attack

[AIJ Alom]

18. Strongly Disagree.

"if you support a war based on lies...then you deserve to reap what you sow, and that just might be your death in the next terrorist attack"

All Americans should not be held accountable for the actions of an annointed government and the failure of the broadcast media to question anything leading up to the Iraq War. Funny how it took Michael Moore to wake them up from their stupor.

The war protestors did not support this venture in Iraq, why should they suffer ?

Iraq is the dumbest pursuit of foreign policy since Vietnam and, surprise, it yields the same results. Deja Vu.

[TahitiNut]

20. "All Americans should not be held accountable"???

Welcome to Democracy, American-style. As long as there's insufficient will in the electorate to remove such people in the government, we all sink or swim together.

The 'collateral damage' of holding ALL US citizens accountable is far, far less than the 'collateral damage' of the bombs we've dropped on Iraqi cities.

[supercrash]

25. Ummm...

"For the actions of an annointed government and the fauilure of the broadcast media"

I already pointed out how the media exposed Bush for his lies...UN document, IAEA document, ect...

The people knew they were supporting a war based on lies, before the war even started, this action puts a legitimate target on their backs

Your "annointed government" had the support of the people

The USA kidnapps Aristide
The USA kidnapps Chavez

Both elected leaders of a democracy, The American don't speak up or say anything....these terrible hate breeding actions also find support from the Amnerican people

They WILL reap what they sow

Most of the planet hated the USA for it's corrupt government,They hated AMERICA.... now the USA is exposed...the whole planet now hates Americans...there is a huge difference, and these radical warmongers have put me in danger

[Paradise]

8. "U.S. Plans Year-End Drive to Take Iraqi Rebel Areas

U.S. Plans Year-End Drive to Take Iraqi Rebel Areas
By DEXTER FILKINS

Published: September 19, 2004

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 18 - Faced with a growing insurgency and a January deadline for national elections, American commanders in Iraq say they are preparing operations to open up rebel-held areas, especially Falluja, the restive city west of Baghdad now under control of insurgents and Islamist groups.

A senior American commander said the military intended to take back Falluja and other rebel areas by year's end. The commander did not set a date for an offensive but said that much would depend on the availability of Iraqi military and police units, which would be sent to occupy the city once the Americans took it.

The American commander suggested that operations in Falluja could begin as early as November or December, the deadline the Americans have given themselves for restoring Iraqi government control across the country." (Snip.)

"Year-End" = After the November elections!

What we have, here, folks, is politically-strategized *W A R !

*A Bush* Administration value!


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/international/middleeast/19strategy.html?th (Simple registration required.)

[Dem_Loyalist]

10. I sure hope not

My people always seem to be a rather high percentage of the military wounded and killed. Not that I have anything against the military, I just don't think its as egalitarian as they say it is.

[DoYouEverWonder]

11. What would Sharon do?

Sharon is the master of this sort of retaliation and it has only made the problems worse, not better. But when did that ever matter to these warmongers?

[AIJ Alom]

12. These two hints by the Bush administration tell the whole story.

http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/380018|top|09-18-2004::10:27|reuters.html
President Bush warned on Saturday that deadly guerrilla violence in Iraq and Afghanistan could worsen in the coming weeks as the two countries move toward national elections. (As we put the Rumsfield method in to play I am assuming?)

"Terrorist enemies are trying to stop the progress of both those countries, and their violent and merciless attacks may increase as elections draw near," Bush told radio listeners.

"But all the world can be certain: America and our allies will keep our commitments to the Afghan and Iraqi people." (How about the American people, Forgetful W Bush? How about Osama Bin Forgotten? Freedom isn't free, but Osama Bin Laden still is.)


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/international/middleeast/19strategy.html?ei=5065&en=6421fb5342ee9cd6&ex=1096171200&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print&position=

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 18 - Faced with a growing insurgency and a January deadline for national elections, American commanders in Iraq say they are preparing operations to open up rebel-held areas, especially Falluja (now the why the heck did we leave it in the hands of a warlord after shedding so much blood in the first place??!!!), the restive city west of Baghdad now under control of insurgents and Islamist groups.

A senior American commander said the military intended to take back Falluja (YET AGAIN AT THE COST OF MANY AMERICAN LIVES) and other rebel areas by year's end. The commander did not set a date for an offensive but said that much would depend on the availability of Iraqi military and police units (who's ineptitude will guarantee that the cities again fall to rebel control), which would be sent to occupy the city once the Americans took it.

[DemonFighterLives]

16. Buckle down

It's coming soon. McCain was just on fox blathering about taking away the insurgents sanctuaries. This will be bloody especially for the Iraqi's. Expect the big bombs now and possibly BFEE nukes and plenty of Depleted Uranium.
We've got to get rid of them all for the world's sake.

[mike_c]

17. this will happen no matter what the outcome of the election....

How would you like to be the one to explain to the last person dying in Iraq that they died for a lame duck?

[Renew Deal]

19. It will probably happen either way.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. Yes. But it won't work.

Just like Vietnam, they're swatting flies with a sledgehammer. The situation will only get worse, the quagmire deeper, the casualties higher.

[malva]

23. OR this

I am afraid many civilians will face death.To cover up the terrorists failure, these attacks will be savage. They will try to score points from thier sheeplike followers for "leadership". Count on a destructive spree like you never imagined before here in the US.

[F.Gordon]

26. Read this......

Too bad we don't have a CIC and Sect of Defense that actually listened to the people in our military. They are making the same mistakes the Soviets made in Afghanistan.....
--------------------------------------------------------
U.S. Army, "Lessons from the War in Afghanistan," May 1989 (Army Department Declassification Release)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/us11.pdf

This is a map of Afghanistan. Areas controlled by the Soviet Army are in red:

[LisaL]

27. I have no doubt of that.

Bush will "liberate them" even if it means killing them all.
:mad:

[LisaL]

28. dupe

dupe

[TrogL]

29. Don't forget the rest of the list

• Iran
  
• Egypt
  
• Korea
  
• Taiwan
  
• Phillipines
  
• Cuba
  
• Mexico
  
• Canada
  

[Veggie Meathead]

30. One of the great ironies that has been exposed in this war on Iraq

is that Saddam Hussein has been telling the truth about WMD's ( he didn't have any) and Bush has been lying.Yet, it seems that our Press propagandists cannot bring themselves to say he lied.

Just the fact his lies have been exposed and remain unstated is going to send this Emperor without clothes into a frenzy after the elections
(if he is elected) and the Iraqi people, innocent as usual will bear the brunt of his fury.