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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:41 PM
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In hindsight, do you doubt that Karl Rove engineered the anthrax
attacks? Especially when you consider the timing, to coincide with the un-PATRIOTic Act.

We identified 19 foreign terrorists within 24 hours, but we don't even have a suspect in the anthrax attack.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:43 PM
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1. never had a doubt..
knew it was the white house since day one. Those fools are so bad at covering their tracks. They were munching Cipro days before any anthrax was mailed out.
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951 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:45 PM
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3. To be honest that never crossed my mind n/t
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gospelized Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:43 PM
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2. not to mention
one of the people killed supposedly had photos of one of bush's skull and bones initiations.

no i don't doubt it at all.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:45 PM
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4. let me put it this way ...
the same people who did 9/11 are the same people who did the anthrax attacks.

In other words, "yes".
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:45 PM
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5. I've always thought they were suspiciously timed.
I'm concerned about the extent of evil in this administration, & I'm speaking beyond the anthrax attacks.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:46 PM
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6. I believe that all evil on this planet is somehow linked to the Bush clan
I don't believe anything Dubya or his cronies say. He's not my presnit.
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:51 PM
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7. When * supporters claim there have been no terrorist attacks
on US soil since 9-11, we need to remind them of this.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:58 PM
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8. And watch them scream but it was not Arubs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know funny, if this was not so tragic, this is funny
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:33 AM
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9. Terrorist is a word that the Thugs have successfully tied to "Muslim"
Control the language and all else comes easy.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:42 AM
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10. Only Democrats were targeted.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:45 AM
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11. It has KKKRove written all over it.
My question is: WHEN is the FBI going to tell the sheeple that it was the WH? AFTER the election? If ever?

Bob Stevens (?) from The National Enquirer was getting ready to release photos of the Fuhrer's Skull and Bones initiation and they weren't pretty. He died from opening an anthrax letter. I think Daschle knows where the anthrax came from too....why else would he continually kiss the RW's ass? Daschle and his family were threatened. I know he received one of the letters, but I think he received a special phone call, after the letter, to let him know where it came from. IMCPO
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:47 AM
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12. Really has all the makings of a classic mob operation
the Thugs put the Gambino's to shame.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:47 AM
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13. I swear I read some stories about Anthrax days or weeks before
9-11. Anthrax was in the news for a while before 9-11 ever happened but I don't know how to find those stories. It came as no surprise to me at all when the Anthrax attacks started occurring. Because they had to have been planned before the 9-11 attack and it was intended that they appear to be part of the 9-11 attack whoever did it had some knowledge of the 9-11 event beforehand. Just too much of a coincidence IMHO.
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sffreeways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:26 AM
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14. I think Cheney is a more likely suspect
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 09:28 AM by sffreeways
but it could be Rove.

I've compared the letters (specifically the envelopes) from Eric Rudolph, the Army of God letters that were sent to news papers regarding the Atlanta Park bombings and I believe the clinic bombings with the anthrax letters and they are strikingly similar. I mean really really similar. As though it's the same author or being created or coached by the same madman. Maybe it wasn't Rudolph that wrote the letters but who ever did I believe was involved with both attacks. I just have a gut feeling about it and the letters have something about them that make them seem very similar. Perhaps he was from the same special ops unit where they were trained to do these things.

I think I recall that Rudolph was stationed at the Army base where the government was weaponizing anthrax.

I've always believed this administration was responsible for those anthrax attacks. This was HUGE and the story has just disappeared. Why ?



The Anthrax letters





The bombing letters

http://www.atf.gov/explarson/centbom.htm

Remember the Army of God sent hoax anthrax letters to clinics after 9/11 too.


Following the Centennial Olympic Park bombing at the 1996 Summer Games in Atlanta, traditional profiling techniques had at first focused investigative attention on Richard Jewell, who was innocent. Enderson's task force gathered the Army of God letters from other bombings, along with envelopes, school papers, a grocery list, even marginal annotations in a Bible -- linguistic evidence that helped direct attention to Eric Robert Rudolph. He was arrested on May 31, 2003, after five years on the lam.

The main obstacle to the investigation of anonymous writing is simply that there is so much of it. Take the epidemic of hoax anthrax letters. Since April 1997 (the first recorded incidence of a major mailed anthrax hoax), law-enforcement agencies have responded to countless chemical and biological hoaxes -- an estimated 10,000 of them in October 2001 alone, following the news of Bob Stevens's infection. Most mailed biothreats contain harmless household powder and an anonymous message from the offender. Police and F.B.I. officials have established a routine for this entire class of documents: Confiscate both the letter and the envelope from the recipient without allowing any copies to be retained. Test the powder to confirm that it is nontoxic. Announce to the press that "the incident will be investigated as a serious crime." Then place the documents in what's known as a zero file and never look at them again.

Unfortunately, when that same strategy is applied to the questioned documents in a case as important as the 2001 anthrax murders, critical evidence may be overlooked. Everyone saw reproductions of the New Jersey anthrax letters calling for "DEATH TO AMERICA DEATH TO ISRAEL." More information has been gleaned from those brief letters than you may suppose. But many of the questioned documents pertinent to the anthrax case have been zero-filed. That is why I have decided finally to speak out.

On the phone that day, S.S.A. Fitzgerald told me that Erin O'Connor (case 2), an NBC aide, had been diagnosed with cutaneous anthrax 17 days after opening a powder-filled letter addressed to NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw. The letter, postmarked on September 20 in St. Petersburg, Florida, began:

http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/bioter/messageanthrax.html

This web site has a lot of research on the letters and is very interesting stuff. I tried to post the copies of the letters but if they don't appear follow the links to the web sites and you can view them for yourself
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:22 AM
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18. I agree-- right down the alley of the Cheney/Rumsfeld Axis
of Asses.

Cheney, always thinking of his natural constituency, Bechtel and Halliburton, no doubt dreamed that we'd need thousands of gallons for the War on Terror. Every year. For eternity. No bid.

Donald "Can I deploy a bioweapon? My Goodness, you bet!" Rumsfeld as the silent partner.

:scared:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:29 AM
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15. Maybe not.
But I'll bet at the LEAST he slapped his forehead and said "DAMN! Why didn't *I* think of that!"

If it comes out that he was behind it, I'll not be shocked.
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Keirsey Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:08 AM
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16. "Did the Government Okay the Anthrax Attacks?"
Eight months after the first death from anthrax inhalation was reported in Florida, someone is finally standing up to liars in public places.

On June 7, 2002, Judicial Watch , "the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse," issued a press release headed "Judicial Watch Wants to Know Why White House Went on Cipro Beginning September 11th: What Was Known and When?"

<snip>

Good question. So why did the White House go on Cipro on the very day of the World Trade Center attacks? Larry Klayman said, "We believe that the White House knew or had reason to know that an anthrax attack was imminent or underway."

<snip>

The American people heard about the first terrorist anthrax attack on October 4, 2001, not quite a month after the World Trade Center attack. On October 4, 2001, Bob Stevens, a photo editor for American Media’s tabloid Sun, lay critically ill in a Florida hospital. The doctors diagnosed inhalation anthrax, a rare disease that workers sometimes contract after exposure to infected livestock or animal hides. Even when contracted in factories that process animal hides, inhalation anthrax is a very rare disease. This was the first case reported since 1976. A Bush spin team went into action immediately.

http://www.hermes-press.com/anthrax_atrocities2.htm
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:08 AM
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17. I think he probably did...just to add to the fear.
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