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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:10 AM
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I swear, if Kerry doesn't cite the Swaggart quote and tie it to Bush ...
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 07:19 AM by Flammable Materials
I'm serious. If there's ANYONE on here who has a line to Kerry's ear, he needs to HAMMER this and expose the hatred and the evil that dwells among Bush's religious right supporters.

He said: "I'm trying to find the correct name for it ... this utter absolute, asinine, idiotic stupidity of men marrying men. ... I've never seen a man in my life I wanted to marry. And I'm gonna be blunt and plain; if one ever looks at me like that, I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died."

http://www.canada.com/search/story.html?id=14720245-d930-4ebe-ba58-4205816266e9
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:12 AM
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1. Please tell me what you're talking about...
I've been away for the last day and have no idea.
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moderatepenguin Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:14 AM
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3. For those who came on after the news went off the main page...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:12 AM
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2. Oh, just fabulous
Another thread that is Totally Inscrutable.

How about a clue for those of us who somehow missed "the Swaggert' quote, whatever that might be.

That way we would know what you are writing about. It's called "communication."
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:15 AM
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4. This is why God created search engines ...
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:16 AM
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5. Go to this thread
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:16 AM
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6. What is with people around here recently?
A simple "What did he say?" would have been nice.

I'm editing the top post to add the quote.

Christ.

:(
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:22 AM
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27. Naw, it's ever so much more fun to have people beg for the info.
:crazy:
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:21 AM
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7. Why put everything on Kerry?
I hope you are writing a few LTTEs and possibly an article or two. Kerry has a pretty full plate and there are many more out there who can get some Media attention as well. I would put the onus on your local Pastor. Have the Church come out and disown such a statement. Every Christian Church should be bombarded with letters asking if they approve of Swaggart's message of Hate. The Church either comes out strongly against such or gets labeled as the same as Swaggart and his Hatreds.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:22 AM
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8. Does any one really care what a crazy would say?
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:26 AM
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10. They should,those religious nutcases are part of Bush's base...
Just as Jerry Falwell's blaming of gays for 9/11 should be repeated over and over.

David
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:08 AM
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19. EXACTLY.
If you're going to fight the fundamentalists who are the ideological base of the Bush re-election campaign, they need to be pointed out for the "American Taliban" that they are.

I can talk to people about it, you can talk to people about it, but it's going to take the power of a 527 to take the message to a mass-media level.
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:24 AM
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9. Here is a link to the video
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 07:38 AM by Mortos
His hate filled rant about homosexuals starts at about 36:30 into this:

Hey wasn't Big Jim Swaggart caught masterbating on a $20 whore a couple of years ago? Why yes, yes he was. I guess God doesn't mind indiscriminate sex with prostitutes...as long as it is one of the opposite sex.

Edit

I can't get the link to work. Go here and click scroll down to a big picture of Jimmy Swaggart crying and click on the video link:

http://americablog.blogspot.com/archives/2004_09_12_americablog_archive.html


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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:27 AM
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11. Page not found on that link...nt
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:29 AM
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12. I don't even understand what that means.
"I'm gonna kill him and tell God he died"?

Wouldn't god already sort of KNOW the guy died? And is Jerry suggesting his relationship with god is so exclusive, he can lie to the Almighty and god will just buy it?

Anyway, ignoring the incoherence, the sentiment is repugnant.

And hey- by the way- if the guy is going to talk politics, I think his church's tax exempt status should be revoked.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:00 AM
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18. It means
he thinks he is powerful enough to lie to his god by saying that the man died rather than "I murdered him."

Swaggart is advocating breaking two commandments. Spread the word brothers and sisters. Go tell it on the mountain. Etc.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:32 AM
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13. Why do the so-called "Christian" extremists . . .
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 07:33 AM by TaleWgnDg
need somebody or something to hate? Over the years, they've demonstrated a "biblical" rant about their "natural right" to own slaves, the heinous "negro" (I refuse to use the other "n-word"), pinko-commies, Jews, and now gays!

Fucking unreal that their scam boogie-man deflection games still work in the 21st century!!!!

And, no, don't expect nor ask John Forbes Kerry to get into that fray because Kerry must try to obtain their votes in order to win the presidency. Oh, yes, he does! However, that does not mean that Kerry will not re-enact Clinton's executive orders . . . Kerry will, indeed, immediately sign Executive Orders protecting gays in the federal government as did Clinton. No problem.

edited to add: oh, yeah, I forgot . . . "Christian" extremists don't consider Roman Catholics to be Christians!! LOL
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:45 AM
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14. Apparently homosexuality is a sin in a class by itself
It's an "a bomb nation" as Swaggart whined. Homosexuality is such a bad nasty evil sin, that it's OK to commit the relatively trivial sins of lying to one's God and killing another human being just to avenge its horrible affects on one's fragile psyche. There's obviously no forgiveness for this particular "a bomb nation," but there is plenty o' forgiveness for getting jiggy with a prostitute.

I haven't seen this in the Bible, but Swaggart wouldn't lie.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:25 AM
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22. It's right after the judge not lest ye be judged passage in the fundie
amended bible. There's a footnote that says "except for those damned queers".

But will our govt. recognize this as inciting to terroristic acts? Not a chance. Because our govt is now a good GAWD fearing govt. and they follow the fundie amended bible too. Besides Swaggert is a MAN OF GAWD and everything that passes his lips must therefor have divine approval. We know he's a MAN OF GAWD because he told us so.

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:54 AM
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15. That would be off message
The rantings of an idiot like Swaggart are hardly worth the time of day for the man in the street. Spending any of the forty four days or so left in the campaign would be detrimental to the future of the nation.

Focus, focus, focus...

Assume this to be another attempt to distract the "libruls" from the main issues, the destruction of another country, the destruction of our economy and the destruction of our liberties.

All else is a distraction.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:55 AM
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16. "It's an abombnation, it's an abombnation, it's an abombnation"!!
From the shots taken from the stage into the audience it appears that Mr. Swaggart's flock has thinned quite a bit. Must be his many of his sheep found another Shepherd.
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Mortos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 07:56 AM
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17. The prostitute Jimmy was with had some interesting things to say
about him.





Warning: Graphic Language Below


Then in July, Penthouse ran an exclusive interview with the prostitute, Debra Murphree. She claimed that Jimmy once inquired whether he could have sex with her 9 year old child:

"He'd ask me if I'd ever let anyone screw my daughter when she was that young, and I said, "No, She's only nine years old." He asked me if she started developing or if she had any hair down there. <...> "I can picture my cock going in and out of a pussy like that," he said.

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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:09 AM
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20. From The Archives: Swaggart's Prostitute Speaks
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 08:12 AM by Flammable Materials
GRAPHIC LANGUAGE WARNING

"I was on my knees, doggie-style, with my feet hanging off the bed... He pulled his jogging suit down around his ankles and left his T-shirt on... He stuck it in and pumped a couple of time and pulled it out... He was very easy. A few pumps and that was it. He'd just moan, and as soon as he got done, he'd throw the rubber in the trash, tuck it in and walk out the door."

"I asked him 'Do you want a date?' And he said, 'All I want to do is jack off awhile and look at your tits."

When I seen him on TV, I'd mostly watch his motions, just to see how he acted. The same voice. I said "God, what a freak. Kinky. Here he is up there preaching for all this money and when I see him, he's kinky and cheap."

When I first met him, he offered $10 to jack off, and I said 'No' and he said, 'But I'm going to do it myself. You won't have to touch me.' And I said 'No, I won't do nothing under $20. Even if you want to look at my titties, you have to give me $20'.

"Would you ever think about letting her watch us?" -- quoting Jimmy Swaggart asking about her nine year old daughter.

He'd ask "Have the cops been hot?" and sometimes I'd say "Yes" and he'd get nervous and leave.

"He'd ask me if I'd ever let anyone screw my daughter when she was that young, and I said, 'No, She's only nine years old.' He asked me if she started developing or if she had any hair down there. I said 'Nooo...' he even asked me if pussy was real tight or not... sometimes he used the word cunt... 'I can picture my cock going in and out of a pussy like that,' he said... I didn't know what to say. I though, 'This man's got to be sick."
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:27 AM
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23. OMG
:puke:
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:16 AM
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28. "
An OMG is about all I can muster up, as well.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:50 AM
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24. Nice to see
Edited on Sun Sep-19-04 09:50 AM by crunchyfrog
those charming conservative Christian, Republican family values.:puke:

I swear I'd shoot him if I had a kid and he ever came anywher near her.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:04 AM
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25. He likes them young, just like his first cousin Jerry Lee Lewis.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 08:18 AM
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21. Swaggart is a terrorist.
Al-Evangelica.

Indeed, as I said elsewhere, if such homophobes start making an impact, I will buy a gun. I have a right to life. And that vermin isn't going to deprive me of it. Nor anyone else. (And I would not deprive anyone else of theirs, but I will act in self-defense if I have to.)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 10:07 AM
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26. He IS a terrorist!
I though I heard him say he wanted god to "bomb our nation" after he stated that he will kill a gay man for looking at him... I'll bet he did more than just females in those skanky motels on Airline Highway.


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