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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:44 PM
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Poll question: Poll: SECRETLY PLANNED AND GEARED-UP BUSH DRAFT or KERRY NO-DRAFT PLAN?
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 01:45 PM by Dems Will Win
Do you favor the secret BUSH MILITARY DRAFT AND SKILLS DRAFT or JOHN KERRY'S NO-DRAFT PLAN ($7 billion) and the plan to use future Secretary of State Richard Holbrooke to broker a peace accord in Iraq like he did in Kosovo?

The SECRET SSS MEMO ON THE COMING BUSH DRAFT: http://www.blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

The SSS has already started designing the database for this and the Seattle PI did a report on this, having originally recovered the Feb 11 meeting memo through the FOI Act!

These two choices are the only real ones before us right now.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:49 PM
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1. Well Gosh
I wonder which way I should vote. I mean maybe President Bush knows what he's doing. After getting so many things wrong, he's due to propose something good any day now, and this just might be it.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:51 PM
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3. ROFLMAO!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 01:50 PM
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2. Here's more on the secret Bush DRAFT being readied



PRINT THE PDF: http://somnamblst.tripod.com/draftalert.pdf
HANG THIS FLYER EVERYWHERE

In May, the Seattle Post Intelligencer published an article about a document they received through the Freedom of Information Act. It was revealed that the SSS is currently “designing procedures” for the implementation of a “Skills Draft” after holding a top-level meeting on it with Deputy Undersecretaries at the Defense Department. This draft would change the very mission of the Selective Service and require “virtually every young American”, male and female ages 18-34, to register for the Skills Draft and list all the occupations they are proficient in to fill labor shortages throughout nearly the entire government. Here is the document for the first time!:

http://blatanttruth.org/selective_service091304.pdf

This document is real, having been acknowledged by the DoD and the SSS when they said no action is being taken on it at the present time. But Acting Director of the SSS Brodsky has said the Skills Draft is the “top priority” for 2004.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/171522_draft01.html

Although Congress would have to approve new legislation to create a Skills Draft or reinstate the combat draft, Family Circle reported in its July 13, 2004 issue that Karl Rove has polled GOP members of Congress in September 2002 to see if they would support the President if he requests reinstatement. The Republicans said they would vote for the draft. The Issue Paper options include:

- Allow a non-combat draft for shortages in critical skills, without calling a combat draft. This skills draft would induct men and women ages 18 to 34.

- Fill labor shortages of all kinds throughout not only DoD but the Dept. of Homeland Security and other agencies as well, especially high-paying professionals like computer networking specialist or linguist. However, truck drivers, cooks and several hundred other skills are also considered “critical”.

- Create a single-point, all-inclusive database, in which every young person would be forced to send in a “self-declaration”—like an IRS form—of all of their critical skills, chosen from a long list of occupations like the Armed Forces Specialty Code. The usual penalties of imprisonment and/or a $250,000 fine would apply to all non-registrants.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:56 PM
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7. kick
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rhite5 Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:01 PM
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4. One question .....
Do we have evidence there will be no draft if Kerry is elected?

Yeah, I know that Edwards said yesterday in West VA there would be no draft if Kerry is elected. But has Kerry said so?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:22 PM
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5. Glad you asked
The major media cover hardly anything that John Kerry says, especially if it is about the draft. So you would never know it, but John Kerry has a No-Draft Plan, a plan to strengthen the military in key areas yet draw down U.S. troop levels in Iraq by internationalizing the situation and then getting out as soon as possible.

Here are the five main points of Kerry’s No-Draft Plan:

1. Move some paper-pushers to combat (lots of potential there)

2. Increase enlistment with real scholarships, benefits and pay raises

3. Let troops know Special Ops will hunt al-Queda, no more invasions needed, so re-up rate goes up. "Primarily a law enforcement effort, not a full military effort", said John Kerry on Meet The Press.

4. Start a "Civilian Stability Corps" that would help in reconstructing Afghanistan and Iraq and relieve military pressure. It would be kind of like the Peace Corps—but on steroids.

5. GET FOREIGN TROOPS TO COME INTO INSTEAD OF LEAVE IRAQ.

Kerry gave some details about the proposed Civilian Stability Corps, made up of volunteers:

"...I propose that we enlist thousands of them in a Civilian Stability Corps, a reserve organization of volunteers ready to help win the peace in troubled places. Like military reservists, they will have peacetime jobs; but in times of national need, they will be called into service to restore roads, renovate schools, open hospitals, repair power systems, draft a constitution, or build a police force. A Civilian Stability Corps can bring the best of America to the worst of the world—and reduce pressure on the military."
- Source: Kerry, John. "Protecting Our Military Families in Times of War: A Military Family Bill of Rights." March 17, 2004. http://johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2004_0317.html >

In April, on a conference call with 130 College Newspaper Editors, Kerry said “No Draft”, that he would have a sensible foreign policy that would not require reinstatement. And in June, Kerry told a Wisconsin high school that if elected, a draft would be "absolutely unnecessary".

Kerry’s plan calls for increasing active-duty troop levels by 40,000 people. He also doubles the number of Special Ops troops. Half the 40,000 being added are civil engineering/reconstruction specialists and half are combat, costing an extra $7 billion, but it relieves the pressure on the Guard and Reserves for overseas deployments and essentially saves the Volunteer Army. $7 billion is well worth not having to bring back the draft!

Kerry charges that Bush is ruining the Volunteer approach with long Guard and Reserve deployments and numerous stop-loss orders, which Kerry says is a “Back-door Draft”. Since Kerry will increase pay, benefits, scholarships and reduce long deployments of regular troops and the reserves, if he is elected the re-enlistment rates and recruitment rates will return to normal. Recently, troops returning from Iraq are reportedly leaving the Service in huge numbers, although denied by DoD (see David Hackworth, Voting With their Feet http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38644).

With this No-Draft Plan, Kerry will not have to resort to conscription, even after Bush has made such a mess of it in Iraq. Kerry has also pledged that he will push renewable energy development and true energy independence, “so that we never again have soldiers dying for oil”.

Kerry has criticized the inequality of the draft, that the poor and minorities are inducted in higher numbers than their fair share and that the draft is a source of conflict. John Kerry will not reinstate the draft—outside of the invasion of the United States by China or something like that.

The choice is thus clear to all voters. Vote for Bush and you are also voting for the resumption of the draft—to man his hidden agenda of invading more countries and staying in Iraq forever.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:40 PM
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6. kick
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:18 PM
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8. Seems we have a 100% poll on DU!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 11:28 AM
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 09:11 AM
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