Morals over policy

[AlCzervik]

UUUgg!!! these people need some sense slapped into them.


For Many in Missouri, Picking a President Is More a Matter of Values Than Policy
By DIANE CARDWELL

Published: September 19, 2004

T. CHARLES, Mo. - Tom Ampleman, a blue-collar union member who lives near this suburb just outside St. Louis, says he voted for Bill Clinton twice and then Al Gore, but he is now grappling with deep religious misgivings about the Democratic Party.

"I haven't declared myself a Republican, but if I had to go in there and vote right now I probably would vote for the Republicans," Mr. Ampleman said recently, sitting in his pickup truck at a public park here.
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"I'm not happy with the moral issues at all with the Democrats," continued Mr. Ampleman, who works as a welder at an aerospace company. "The Republicans will hurt me in the long run in providing for my family, but it's probably more important to watch out for the unborn and that kind of stuff."

Missouri, almost evenly split between Republicans and Democrats, straddles the Midwest, the Deep South and the Great Plains, and has some of the sensibility of each region. Elections can turn on the interests of labor unions, farmers, city dwellers or suburban parents.

More at link:http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/politics/campaign/19state.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/19/politics/campaign/19state.html

[mark414]

1. why is it so hard for people to understand?

there will BE NO UNBORN IF THE REPUBLICANS KEEP THIS SHIT UP!

and if you want to get started on morals...shit

[AlCzervik]

2. this piece really pissed me off

these people are not thinking.

[caliope]

3. Slappin don't fixit

It's next to impossible to change someone's mind when then get stuck on the abortion & same sex marriage thorns, if that's their religious issues. About the best you can do is try to diffuse it so you can still talk civilly. Then maybe you'll have a chance later. Maybe you have somebody in your family you have this big issue with. I do: my son and his family. Holy fundamentalism!. (Well a few of them are enlightened....) With the kids one at a time I've said, "Now you don't kate me because I have a different bumpersticker from your Dad? couse you know gangs start from people on the other end of the block who think you're different so that's dangerous...and if you magnify that a few times it is like terrorism. We've got to keep talking and disagreeing is Ok. Hurting people isn't." To Dad & Mom I say, "I honestly don't think the federal government has any business sticking in an opinion about marriage. It's a local issue; and my personal view is that civil "weddings" should be simply a legal contract for financial matters and should not discriminate which 2 adults share a household. A "wedding" ought to be a religious function and rules for the chosen denomination can be enforced there (or they chose another). As far as the dirty word "abortion", the kids don't know, but most adults do, that few extended families that haven't had one or more and very few really feel that the mother should be punished, extinguished or made to return to the illegal butcher. Ashcroft going so far as to not allow oral birth control for teens or morning after pills is more than puritanical wishful thinking; it's Nazi-like sexist control. but a fundamentalist would clam up or freak out at those words; so what would you say?