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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 05:52 AM
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Is cocaine a problem at the Pentagon?
I've worked around people who used a lot of cocaine in order to get through their work and I know what it can do to them.

Here is a recent interview of Seymour Hersh by Salon. He doesn't mention anything about cocaine usage, but what he unveils sounds a lot like the result of it:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/18/hersh_interview/index.html

"These guys are utopians..."

"....there was a "fantastical" quality to the White House's deliberations."

So you don't think that this is some Machiavellian, cynical, manipulative ...

"I used to pray it was! We'd be in better shape. Is there anything worse than idealism that doesn't conform to reality? You have an unrealistic policy."

...

"I think these guys in their naiveté and single-mindedness have been so completely manipulated by -- not the Israelis -- but the Iranians....We get knocked down a peg; they become the big boys on the block."




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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:02 AM
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1. Don't know about the Pentagon, but it is at the White House!
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:04 AM
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2. to be honest...
I know some people that used to work on Capitol Hill and they say that drug use is rampant on the Hill...

I don't know about the pentagon...but ya never know...
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:05 AM
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3. There are other drugs besides cocaine...
... which produce the same effects. One of them is power.

What does one desire of cocaine? A feeling of power and the absolute assuredness that comes from that.

Power does what the drug only implies.
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Poisonskin_com Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:28 AM
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4. sleeping pills
What was that deal a while ago where Powell was like... "(some sleeping drug) yeah we're all on it. its fantastic."

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:34 AM
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6. Ambien? (Potentially as psychogenic as Halcyon?)
I guess you can't blame the psychosis on the drug when the druggie is already psychotic.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 06:32 AM
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5. It's not a 'problem' as long as their supply is unlimited.
Since the illegal invasion of Afghanistan, poppy production there has increased a hundredfold. Gotta get that supply going. :eyes:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 07:07 AM
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7. I wrote a post a while back...
Edited on Sat Sep-18-04 07:21 AM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Something of a rant/screed, about how this maladministration was the "Cocaine Ethics" administration. It can be summed up by this maladministration's adhearance to the central ethical adhearance to the #1 cocaine ethical phrase: "Go Fuck Yourself". In everything they do, in every policy decision they make, scratch the surface and there it is, that lustily-delivered suggestion, replete with the sweat, the snot and the spit. Every decision, every announcement, every speech is imbued with that phrase. It's there for the world to see, hear and then obey, to go commit intercourse upon itself. The lying? Good lord, if a cocaine abuser tells you the sky is blue, please go check to make sure. Other supporting scientific evidence wouldn't hurt either.

I know what I am talking about and know what I am seeing: I worked for 27 years in the music business. Contrary to popular belief, we did not spend our off-time sitting in our hotel rooms, reading the Gideon's Bible and drinking tea from fine china cups and eating cucumber lady finger sandwiches. No, we were hogging up 12-inch Texas Gag Rails of what I have come to believe is The Stupidest Substance on The Face of The Planet(save, maybe, Heroin, although I have no experience with that shit). Cocaine is the one drug that imbues the ingester with a near-terminal case of Pernicious and Malignant Intractable Rude Dumbass, with Frantic Delusions of Grandeur. Sound like anyone we know?

Make no mistake: These are Cocaine ethics we are seeing. Does that mean that these people are presently using? I have no evidence that will allow me to say "yes" with any certainty, but I can say that a good number of these people, at some time, did some serious, he-man, two-fisted, eight-ball-in-an-hour Krell Monstering, liked what it did to their personalities and did not ever change.

That said, I would not be surprised to find out that there are secret rooms in the halls that these people walk, that have wheelbarrows full of seized Peruvian Flake, mounded high and with straws sticking out of them for easy tootage. Just punch in your code on the crypto door lock, go in, and get right and tight, then go and make some decisions that disenfranchise people and kill brown folks.

That's the Cocaine Way.

This has been a Tandalayo Scheisskopf No-Shitter Alert. I am Tandalayo Scheisskopf, and if you don't believe I support this message, I'll stick a boot up your ass.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 04:47 PM
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10. Great post...
thanks for the honesty. I've never tried it myself, and I'd be very afraid to. I just wish the folks in the admin would burn themselves out.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 07:20 AM
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8. Only when Dumbya shows up. He's such a hog!
Don't bogart that line my friend!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 08:14 AM
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9. I think most of them have switched
to perscription drugs, it's just so much more legal that way.

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