US invasion of Iran

[Union Thug]

Sorry if this is a dupe....

http://www.washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040914-044348-2194r.htm

UPI Intelligence Watch
WASHINGTON, (UPI) Sept. 14 , 2004 -
UPI Intelligence Watch
By John C.K. Daly and Martin Sieff

U.S. Special Forces practice for Iran intervention

An October surprise against Iran may even be followed by a far bigger spring one. Intelligence Watch has learned that U.S. Special Forces have been conducting war games out of Tampa, Fla., practicing regime change in Iran. The exercises, sources tell UPI, were on the plan that a full-scale war against Iran would not be necessary but that U.S. Special Forces would be inserted and would be working with Iranian moderates and dissidents.

Regime change in Iran has long been a top priority for the neo-conservatives who continue to run the Department of Defense and who will certainly continue to do so in a second Bush term.

[meti57b]

1. working with Iranian moderates just like we worked with Iraqi moderates,

I suppose. But then it worked so well in Iraq, why not try it in Iran.

[Spinzonner]

2. Yeah, that'll work

They'll be waiting with bouquets of Flowers.

[OneBlueSky]

3. just what in the hell gives the U.S. the right to . . .

institute a regime change in a sovereign nation? . . . isn't that, like, against international law or something? . . .

[LisaL]

5. Who cares about international law?

Certainly, not Bush.
Yehoooooooo.

[wtmusic]

4. "Regime change" is the new PC word for "conquest"

"Conquest" carries all those nasty connotations of Genghis Khan, who invaded, stole, tortured, and killed innocent civilians. ;-)

[ClintonTyree]

6. Hah!!!

The exercises, sources tell UPI, were on the plan that a full-scale war against Iran would not be necessary but that U.S. Special Forces would be inserted and would be working with Iranian moderates and dissidents.


The Bush administration has been wrong about everything. To suggest that "a full-scale war against Iran would not be necessary" is another PNAC pipe dream.

[Search Party]

7. Campaign #2 in the Millennium Crusades

stupid utopian fucks

[no_hypocrisy]

8. First, on what authority can * invade and occupy Iran?

What if he didn't even bother asking Congress and/or the U.N. and he just did it?

Second, what sanctions could the U.N. impose on this country if the U.S. just marched in, so to speak, and did its thing, like Hitler and Poland?

Third, if this all went down, could Iran ask for assistance from the world in general for military assistance, and the U.S. would risk fighting the military from other countries, even former allies like Germany, Japan, etc.?

[truhavoc]

12. We are on the path to global war...

And if we loose, the other nations of the world will criticize themselves for not stepping in and stopping the invasion of Iraq. This is on the same level of Nazi Germany containment...the Bushies need to be stopped.

[skooooo]

9. Can we just take over Asia??

...you know in one fell swoop and get it over with? Why is Bush being such a wimp?

[supercrash]

10. Jeeesh...

This SO reminds me of 1953 when the republican administration overthrew Iran's Mossadeq...not by invasion, but by working with the opposition.

The Iranian moderates are certainly ready for this coup.

[21winner]

11. Moonie Times.

Always a bad source. We are choking to death on Iraq. It is more likely that Iran will invade Iraq to kick us out.

[mikehiggins]

13. Is this the Lounge?

Surely this is a joke. Taking on Iran and thinking we won't have another full scale war on our hands goes far beyond lunacy into, well, whatever is out there beyond lunacy. Maybe Coulter-land?

Sure, lets whack a couple of leaders, set up a puppet government in the capital and roll out the "Mission Accomplished" banner. Then we can get the draft started up again and send another whole generation (except for the well connected and the well-to-do, of course) to fight and die for nothing.

Oh, the weight of Empire is so crushing.

Jose? Another martini please.

[AlCzervik]

14. It's not going to happen

Iran is a big country with triple the population of Iraq. I know the US has been trying very hard to get an uprising started there but no way will a US military strike happen.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

15. Hell, our much vaunted military can't even handle Iraq.

If anything, look for air strikes as a "preventative measure" by us or in conjunction with Israel. A grand time to be had by all. "Heroic" pilots to be paraded by Bush and Sharon, flags waving, "God Bless America" being sung, cool videos of things being blown up, smug politicians of both parties calling for unity, Generals in cami fatigues in front of maps, etc, nausea, etc.

The truth is that we've already lost the war in Iraq. Any venture into Iran will only fortify the belief (rightfully) that the United States is a neo-colonial power using it's wealth and strength to subdue the 3rd world and add to the ranks of Al-queyda and every other outfit with a grudge.

Our hightech military is good at blowing up things and defeating ill-equipped, ill trained, 3rd world armies, but is incapable of defeating insurgents. They're trying to swat mosquitoes with a sledge hammer.

[FormerOstrich]

16. I really know nothing about war and strategies...

but is it possible....they think they can setup shop in Iraq, use Iraq as their launching pad. Then when Iran starts shooting back the Iraqis and insurgents will need to defend themselves. In other words, could they be trying to "draft" the country to fight for them?

[Bread and Circus]

17. I think this is on the PNAC "to do" list.

[tom_paine]

18. an "intervention"?!?

The Orwellians certainly have won this round of history.

So, we going in to stop Iran from abusing drugs or something?

Have a nie sit down, with a former-addict mediator, like on the Sopranos?

Actually, considering that "intervention" ended in a beating, maybe I've hit on something here.

[sweetheart]

19. won't happen

Iran would kick the US military's ass. There would have to be
500,000 troops to 1m troops in theatre to begin a military operation
against an opponent of that strength.... no way. They "know" that
bush plans an invasion, and are well aware that sinking iraq is
the solution.