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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:11 AM
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In Amerika today, Religion is real, Science is fake.
Why? Well, maybe because Science warns us of our mismanagement of nature, and thereby threatens Industry to be more respectful.

Religion, the Christian variety, claims that the universe was created for man, to use the fruit that God so bestowed on his children.

So this Government has attached itself to the latter in order to plunder, as God has instructed.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:14 AM
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1. Pretty much
In general, religion is much easier to manipulate, the dogmas are not to be questioned.
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pmbryant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:18 AM
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2. Don't overgeneralize
Religion, the Christian variety, claims that the universe was created for man, to use the fruit that God so bestowed on his children.


This certainly is the ascendant point-of-view amongst the Republican party's leaders, and so gets a huge amount of play these days. But it is certainly not universal to Christianity by any stretch of the imagination. I suspect this point of view is not even close to a majority amongst Christians in this country.

--Peter
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:22 AM
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6. I suspect differently
But I'm rooting for your theory.
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:18 AM
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3. Wonder what Galileo or Copernicus would think of us?
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:19 AM
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4. Loch Ness Monster is Missing
There was an article that recent sightings of the Loch Ness Monster were nearly non-existent, UFO activity was nil and other weird phenomenon, except ghost sightings, were down. Yet, religion is seen with increasing viability to explain World events over that offered by Science.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:25 AM
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7. Somewhere I heard
that religious people are much more likely to believe in Ghosts, Tarot, Astrology, but not UFO's.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:21 AM
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5. As a Pagan, who sees nature as the skin and bones of God
You have no idea how incredibly pissed off the idea that God told man to pave the earth for fun and profit makes me.

It literally makes me angry enough to kill.

The Gods allow us to live on thier world. We do not have the right to pave it, bake it, or poison most of the life off of it!

I hope Texans and Floridians continue to enjoy the new climate that they have made for us all. The cyclonic multi smackdown will be the new fall annual feature of these formerly 'CFA' climates. But that's ok, the Godly will move to Ohio and Indiana-- as Kansas will be mostly unlivable in 15 years.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:26 AM
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8. Only a short time left
before the ill earth gives in to the cancer that is Man. IMHO.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:32 AM
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11. Humans will go down in history as having had the shortest
tenure of any species.

Compare our measly 300,000+ years to 2,000,000 for turtles.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:31 AM
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9. Religion is authoritarian Science is skeptical
Religion teaches that there are eternal unchanging truths that must be believed solely on the authority of their source.

Science believes that humans have to power to discover truth for themselves, and that what is believed to be true can change, based on new evidence or a better explanation.

Which one do you think supports authoritarian governments best?
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:34 AM
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13. Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, and Science.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:32 AM
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10. At Borders the other night....
I decided I'd make myself nauseous and thumb through a copy of the National Review. There was a feature review of a new book entitled "The Twilight of Atheism," where the author supoosedly documents atheism as a passing fad, and that more people are returning to religion and dismissing science and reason. He obviously saw this as a good thing, as did the NR writer.

Frankly, this scares the fuck out of me.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:33 AM
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12. Everything is messed up in Bushworld. Up is down, evil is good, etc.
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:40 AM
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14. Agree and Disagree
I agree with your statement, disagree with your reasoning.

I think it has to do with the current disdain for all things intellectual. This allows superstition and those that advance that viewpoint to be ascendant right now.

Plus, just the general dumbification that's going on. Nobody knows nuthin' and they are darn proud of it. If you do know something or seek to learn something, you are some kind of an obsessed nut. It's not like this worldview has never existed before, it's just currently the generally popular way of looking at things. Useta be if you were stupid or ignorant you tried to hide it, now it's a mark of coolness.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:48 AM
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15. Bingo!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-16-04 10:50 AM
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16. not really... science and religion are not mutually exclusive to
the majority of people in this country.
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