MBAs for the Truth about Bush & Cheney's Business Practices

[T Bone]

No, it doesn't exist yet. But it needs to be organized, possibly as a 527. This 527 could look into the past business ventures of both Bush and Dick. Make case studies, and analysis from the perspective of a panel of MBAs and MBA students.

How well run were Bush's and Cheney's businesses? What mistakes did their businesses make? How did their companies stocks do while they were 'at the helm'. Any legal problems while they we 'at the helm'. Any SEC, or other regulatory problems while they were 'at the helm' ?Any filings by their employees demonstrating they were less than committed employers?

I think it could be interesting for Americans to have an objective evaluation of their 'MBA presidency adults' while these MBAs were actually running their own companies. Dontcha' think ?

We could even get documents and stuff for documentation in the case studies.

[alittlelark]

1. Damn, that is a great idea!!!

Hubby is an MBA - we'll chat when he gets back from his trip. One big problem is that MBA's are taught that the value of their network is virtually the value of themselves. This will require some introspection and analysis among peers.

[zaj]

2. I'm an MBA... I'm in!

[T Bone]

4. Good you can be President of it then

because I am not an MBA, so you MBAs will have to do it.

[SharonAnn]

10. Hey, me too! I've got an MBA. But, more important, I've got common sense

With those two assets I can tell you that Bush did everything wrong in his businesses, just like he did in his life. But he got bailed out by the family connections.

[whistle]

3. Uhmmm, Harvard Business Schools new curriculum.....

...a partial description....

Management 301:Securing Major International Contracts without competitive bids.

Business Law 416: Shielding Fortune 500 Corporate Criminals from SEC violations;

Accounting 206: Using Modified Accounting and Financial Reporting Practices that the AICPA review board has not yet invented;

Human Resource Management 115: Staffing Through Faith Based Initiatives;

Elective in American Literature: An exhaustive self-study of the shortest book in the world, "Republican Business and Human Relations Ethics -- Never say what you mean, never mean what you say, but always say it mean".

Bastards!!!! These pricks are corrupting everything.

[2Design]

5. funny one of the local news guys here in va stated = bush had an MBA

and we haven't had an MBA president - and I thought but all he has ever done is run companies into the ground

[Eric J in MN]

6. T. Bone - you could create a webpage yourself like that and we

could link to it.

I've got a blog, and I'd post a link if it's good.

[mhr]

7. MBA Here As Well - Count Me In!

eom

[T Bone]

8. ok, mhr you are the vice-president of this

without benefit of an election, either. heh.

[mhr]

13. Good, I've Done The VP Thing Before - When's Our First Meeting?

eom

[Merlin]

9. I'll join. Not a bad idea. Bush's management is classical bad case.

Bush runs the gov't as if he were in private industry trying to milk the government.

His management practices are atrocious, and it's no wonder he's had to be bailed out of all his business efforts.

[T Bone]

15. kick this for the way to go, maybe we can get CBS on THIS

really, all the awol/Vietnam stuff comes down to something very simple

--One guy volunteered and went on COMBAT duty. The other DIDN'T.

Now lets start looking at how Bush ran his businesses AFTER he failed to volunteer for combat in Vietnam. How did he acquire and run his businesses? Who were his business PARTNERS. What kinds of problems did his businesses encounter, and how did they handle them? How PROFITABLE to his shareholders were Bush's businesses. I mean come on this is touted as the MBA presidency. So just HOW GOOD a businessman was the MBA president?

[Merlin]

11. Salon -- Bush MBA prof calls him "spoiled, loutish and a pathological liar

The dunce
His former Harvard Business School professor recalls George W. Bush not just as a terrible student but as spoiled, loutish and a pathological liar.
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By Mary Jacoby

Sept. 16, 2004 |For 25 years, Yoshi Tsurumi, one of George W. Bush's professors at Harvard Business School, was content with his green-card status as a permanent legal resident of the United States. But Bush's ascension to the presidency in 2001 prompted the Japanese native to secure his American citizenship. The reason: to be able to speak out with the full authority of citizenship about why he believes Bush lacks the character and intellect to lead the world's oldest and most powerful democracy.

"I don't remember all the students in detail unless I'm prompted by something," Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. "But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect -- the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite." The future president was one of 85 first-year MBA students in Tsurumi's macroeconomic policies and international business class in the fall of 1973 and spring of 1974.

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Bush, by contrast, "was totally the opposite of Chris Cox," Tsurumi said. "He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. Students jumped on him; I challenged him." When asked to explain a particular comment, said Tsurumi, Bush would respond, "Oh, I never said that." A White House spokeswoman did not return a phone call seeking comment.

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Bush once sneered at Tsurumi for showing the film "The Grapes of Wrath," based on John Steinbeck's novel of the Depression. "We were in a discussion of the New Deal, and he called Franklin Roosevelt's policies 'socialism.' He denounced labor unions, the Securities and Exchange Commission, Medicare, Social Security, you name it. He denounced the civil rights movement as socialism. To him, socialism and communism were the same thing. And when challenged to explain his prejudice, he could not defend his argument, either ideologically, polemically or academically."

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Many of Tsurumi's students came from well-connected or wealthy families, but good manners prevented them from boasting about it, the professor said. But Bush seemed unabashed about the connections that had brought him to Harvard. "The other children of the rich and famous were at least well bred to the point of realizing universal values and standards of behavior," Tsurumi said. But Bush sometimes came late to class and often sat in the back row of the theater-like classroom, wearing a bomber jacket from the Texas Air National Guard and spitting chewing tobacco into a cup.

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/09/16/tsurumi/index1.html

[democrat_patriot]

12. Count me in. Actually lookd at Enron before it collapsed.

Could use the notes....

[Gore1FL]

14. I'm in

Nice to know that $20,000 isn;t going to go to waste afterall!