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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:17 AM Original message |
Are anti-choice groups trying to stop "the Pill"? |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's true. Several links on DU a couple months ago |
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bloom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #1 |
75. I thought the previous cases dealt witih Morning-after pills |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:54 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. In one respect, it's a way to control women ... |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. Well, |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #82 |
83. How does the pill ever act as an abortifacient |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:20 PM Response to Reply #83 |
128. This is how.... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. That's still contraception |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 10:04 AM Response to Reply #130 |
148. Well, as you have probably guessed..... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 10:12 AM Response to Reply #148 |
151. well if you don't follow the medical/legal definition |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #151 |
153. I understand your point, but..... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 11:58 AM Response to Reply #153 |
154. Doctors have an agenda? Really? |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. I agree with you on one point.... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 12:22 PM Response to Reply #155 |
156. My best friend's sister |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 12:47 PM Response to Reply #156 |
158. Oh well..... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. Boo-hoo. You haven't answered any of mine either |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:04 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Exactly,everyone should have the right to control her body as she sees fit |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
2. yes |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Heres one article on it |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. Everyone knows that "birth control pills" are prescribed |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Anyone with a "conscientious objection" to abortion |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #19 |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Isn't it the people trying to impose their brand of morals who are playing |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. These pharmacists are playing god |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Oooh! Snappy comeback! |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:21 PM Response to Reply #48 |
99. I just had a similar conversation |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #19 |
52. We have a pharmacy here in town |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
55. It's obvious it's not abortion they object to, |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Yep! Strong women terrify them. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. Yeah, and they hardly let the elder Mrs. Bush speak at all! |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. The birth control pill is *NOT* an abortifacient |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:09 AM Response to Reply #22 |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:17 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. No, I'm a goddess |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Nonsequiter? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
98. See my post much later in the thread |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
112. What is your problem? |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
129. I consider it one.... |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:28 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. What you are considering is your |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Simple, really....... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. How about those freezers full of "life" then from invitro? |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:07 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. Well, for the record.... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:20 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Well, then you've got a bone to pick with most of these "pro-lifers" too |
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Garbo (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 10:07 AM Response to Reply #138 |
149. Who said anything about imposing my views on your body? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 08:04 AM Response to Reply #137 |
146. I'm pro-choice and I think it's wrong. |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #14 |
66. Conscientious objection to abortion would involve not having or |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
77. There is conscientious objection to abortion |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
92. I say that |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Excellent post! |
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Zing Zing Zingbah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
36. How can you be against |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Wasn't there legislation to protect pharmacists who refuse to fill |
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Zing Zing Zingbah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #4 |
59. Most women do use the Pill to avoid getting pregnant |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Yes, but point being, if someone has a medical condition which is being |
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Zing Zing Zingbah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #68 |
81. The pharmacist should get in trouble |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. The "pro-lifers" view pregnancy as punishment for sin. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Some actually believe the public line, that life begins at conception... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #7 |
74. Every sperm is special, every sperm is great |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. This is such utter crap! |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #6 |
79. I expect that if they fundies get their way, one day taking BC at all |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 06:34 AM Response to Reply #79 |
143. In Gideon, it was also illegal to abstain |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 08:05 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. Nice. Sounds like Romania in the 80's/90s. n/t |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
8. reminds me of a bumper sticker |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
56. And yet they claim to own Christianity. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
9. Do you believe in conscientious objection to war? |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Ummm, no, not the same thing |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:47 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Bingo!! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Conscientious objectors to war do "inconvenience" others, |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. This argument is so full of **** |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. pointing out the obvious doesn't work here |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. True, Mon. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Oh, I'd welcome a devil's advocate |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
64. lol. Thats a very good way to framing it. |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:35 AM Response to Reply #64 |
73. You're fairly new here. Welcome to the abortion flame wars |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:50 AM Response to Reply #73 |
78. I've been here under another name for years. |
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Zing Zing Zingbah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:11 PM Response to Reply #64 |
90. Excellent point! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. I think you've got it backwards |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:18 AM Response to Reply #23 |
50. So if a Christian Scientist was a pharmacist, he/she wouldn't have to |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
84. ahem...what about those who use the pill for other conditions |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. by that logic |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Exactly |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Conscientious objectors don't join the military. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:07 AM Response to Reply #17 |
35. Sometimes people join the military for reasons having |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Should a person be prevented |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Exactly, a conscientious objector who BECOMES one in military, GETS OUT |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:22 AM Response to Reply #35 |
57. Because it will interfere with their abililty |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:26 AM Response to Reply #35 |
63. Ok. I have an IUD |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
85. Anybody who thinks that the military isn't in the killing business |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
113. Yes |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
115. A practicing pharmacist who comes to believe that prescribing |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Not if these women who need these services live |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. There are mail order pharmacies. nt |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. And what if the postman decides he has a moral obligation to not deliver |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Until the Republicans begin clamping down on |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
76. That's not a safe alternative. |
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phylny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
102. I utterly, absolutely disagree. |
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timefordrinking.com (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
10. Breeders |
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aeolian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:54 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. roflmao! n/t |
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Dem Agog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
12. I know a woman who foresaw this... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Bush being pulled between money and "morals" |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I'm consdering this myself. |
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Dem Agog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I gotta say... |
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RebelYell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. I had to go to a Planned Parenthood doctor for my tubal |
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Dem Agog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I had a bad gyno experience 3 or 4 yrs ago |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Do you remember the Supreme Court case where all women of childbearing age |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
103. I used to think that it was far fetched |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
117. I thought you were going to say her name was Margeret Atwood. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
124. sounds like me! |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. People should forget about |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #15 |
60. and if this becomes wide spread |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
43. Intersting that you'd never heard anything about this. I'll bet |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yeah, I didn't believe it at first. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:20 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. This information has been published over and over by |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:23 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. I live in a pretty conservative area |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #58 |
71. I'm on mailing lists from the hq for PP and NARAL |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
109. They even infiltrate the planned parenthood. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:08 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. worked for my mom for 10 years running |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:14 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. actually, to be fair, |
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left is right (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 10:41 AM Response to Reply #114 |
152. Me. I got pregnant on the pill |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:25 AM Response to Reply #45 |
61. This is why I've been doing so much |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:28 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Thanks for the suggestion, I intend to bring this up with some non-voters |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:30 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. You're welcome! |
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SiouxJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
54. Send these articles to your apathetic friends |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
72. The future lawsuit? |
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Zing Zing Zingbah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Lots of guys out there hate condoms, |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #88 |
96. Understood, myself included... |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #96 |
134. Pro-choice forces ought to create a commercial |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
87. idiot america has way too much power in this country |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
89. It's amazing how many DUers want to force |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:16 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Nobody is saying everyone HAS to believe the use of the pill is right! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
94. And you saying that the pill is infanticide doesn't make it so. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:23 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. unfuckingbelivable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Are these people against invitro as well? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. A good point that the Bush Admin. and other "pro-life" people |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I guess it's fine because frozen isn't really "destroying" them |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. what? You didn't realize they were God? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. I was given the pill to TRY and regulate my periods! |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #100 |
119. We're headed that way fast |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 02:56 PM Response to Reply #119 |
126. or works in an occupation that is too hazardous. see post #46 |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:20 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. forcing them?!?! isn't it the other way around? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:44 PM Response to Reply #89 |
105. There will never be an end to the cultural divide. |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:47 PM Response to Reply #105 |
120. You're right. So long as people try to force their moral judgements on |
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Mandate My Ass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #89 |
107. Quelle ironique!!! |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:20 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. I know. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. But but but but... |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
121. I don't want to force anyone to do diddly against their conscience (m) |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
118. Oh, this make sense...get rid of the pill so more abortions take place. |
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Christof (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
122. Birth Control DOES NOT equal abortion! |
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SSFFMMM (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
125. Great. We need more people to control ourselves! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
127. Actually many are trying to get rid of all contraception except for |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:32 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. They'd ban Natural Family Planning if they could figure out a way to do it |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #132 |
161. Sad Catholic BC story |
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Nobody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #132 |
166. Actually NFP is intended to try to get pregnant |
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Silverhair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
135. No. No pro-life group that I know of is trying to stop BC pills. |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. If life begins at conception, |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. And just in case you still don't believe it, here's a Pro-life America |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-14-04 08:38 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. Do you have any links to what Bush has done to support these nuts? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 06:23 AM Response to Reply #141 |
142. I don't and |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 06:37 AM Response to Reply #142 |
144. You could just send them the links to Pro-life america |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 08:02 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. Frontline on PBS |
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kayell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #135 |
162. Then you aren't paying attention |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
150. Old R Catholic arguement.....sex for procreation ONLY |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
157. Birth Control and control |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #157 |
160. And all it would take is making a law that says life begins at conception |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. pro-life? |
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Iris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. or anti-quality-of life movement! nt |
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Nikia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-15-04 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
165. Most fertilized eggs don't implant, naturually |
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