This Bush's "Good" Discharge really stinks!

[Hubert Flottz]

While John Kerry was getting shot at in Viet Nam, GW Bush was roaming around the southern US, playing Jody and living the "High Life"! His old Daddy had enough political pull to get the Boy into the Texas Air Guard, ahead of about two hundred other applicants! The old man then had the pull to get George into flight school, ahead of lots of other guys who had scored better on their tests!

It only makes sense to me then, that if George was in trouble with drinking and drugs and couldn't pass his flight tests, or show up, the old man had the pull to get George an honorable discharge, whether George had earned it or not! The TANG higher ups(brass) had already proven, that they could be made to override standard military regulations in Bush's behalf, because Daddy was a congressman! They let George Jr get away with just quitting! If your kid Just Quits the military, the military will punish him the rest of his life with a bad discharge!

In the military service there is a little thing called "RHIP"!(rank has it's privilege) In Bush's case I guess the Congressman outranked the Commanding Officers!

[No Mandate Here.]

1. Whenever anyone brings up *'s discharge,

I remind them that John Muhammed (the DC sniper) was court martialled twice, was AWOL and had all kinds of blotches omn his record, AND was still granted an Honorable Discharge.

Occasionally, this fact brings a glimmer of visible thought to the Rethugs around here, but they just move on, polishing up their W04 stickers.

Check out Kristof's NYTimes OpEd today... "Mr. *'s Glass House"

<http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/15/opinion/15kris.html>

The issue SHOULD be *'s continued lies about this.

[Hubert Flottz]

2. Bush is a real live Jethro Bodine(sp)!

He wants to be a pilot, so Daddy buys him that! He wants to own a big oil company, so Daddy buys him that! He wants to play baseball but is too wimpy, so Daddy buys him the team! He wants to be a PLAYBOY and old Daddy pays for that too! And Now, he are the pResident, thanks to Daddy! Hey Shrub, how bout ciphering up those months in the Air Guard for us!

That is a great point about the sniper's discharge!

[ClintonTyree]

3. And according to him......................

poor people are poor because they're "lazy". The little twit never had to do an honest day's work in his life and was handed every opportunity on a silver platter. THAT is lazy. Born on third base and he thinks he hit a home run. What a turd blossom.

[JohnyCanuck]

4. Hey, just be thankful

He never had the desire to become a brain surgeon. LOL

[Hubert Flottz]

6. He is just waiting until the camps are set up and operating!

Then he'll dabble in expirmental brain surgery like his Grandpa's old pal Dr Mengela did at the Bush family holdings at Auschwitz-Birkenau!


THERE HAS TO BE A LIMIT TO THE SHAMELESSNESS


SNIP>

It was a searing indictment of modern France and Germany, though not as blunt as those of his national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, who still seethes when she talks of how some of America's traditional allies tried to organize the world against a confrontation with Iraq. On Thursday, she told European journalists that "there were times that it appeared that American power was seen to be more dangerous than, perhaps, Saddam Hussein."

She was recalling a time before the Iraq war when Mr. Bush openly likened Mr. Hussein to Hitler, a comparison that fell flat in much of Europe though it was embraced here in Poland. In the weeks since the military phase of the war ended, Mr. Bush has cited new evidence of Mr. Hussein's atrocities in Iraq to vindicate his decision to oust him — especially in the absence, so far, of compelling evidence of vast Iraqi stores of weapons of mass destruction.

"All the little baby shoes," Mr. Bush said at one point, looking at the exhibits, Mr. Fleischer said. (His comments were out of earshot of the small group of reporters who trailed behind and a separate group that included Ms. Rice, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and the White House chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr.) Mr. Bush walked into the small cells where, his guide said, 39 people were kept, claw marks from their fingernails still visible on the wooden door.

At one point Mr. Bush turned to Ms. Swiebocka and asked, "Do people challenge the accuracy of what you present?" Mr. Fleischer, who was accompanying the president a few paces behind, said he could not hear the answer.

At the end of his visit, Mr. Bush walked nearly half a mile along the Birkenau rail spur. He spoke briefly to reporters, but seemed unable to describe his emotions in any detail. He inscribed the words "never forget" in a guest book, and alighted his motorcade to return to Krakow and make his argument that America was remembering, but much of Europe was not. MORE.....

http://kkashyap.blogspot.com/2003_05_25_kkashyap_archive.html

Brainstorming for Guantanamo, Bush Visits Auschwitz

http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/71580

Prescott Bush

W's Grandpa Prescott Was Caught with Bogus Medals Too

http://www.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Prescott+Bush

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

8. HAHAHAHA...Jethro Bodine..ROFLMAO...

OMG, I wish the Kerry camp could spin this...Jethro is someone that is instantly recognizable. Too funny! MKJ

:yourock:

[Democrat 4 Ever]

17. George "Jethro Bodine" Bush

The comparisons are eerie! Really. They walk alike, they talk alike, they even "think" (using the term loosely!) alike. The real Jethro was cute, sweet and harmless in his day - Dubya has always been a beady, shifty-eyed, elite frat boy. LOL.

The major difference is that Jethro was a harmless, good-natured buffoon, BoyGeorge is mean-spirited, evil entity who doesn't seem to have lost one second of sleep at night while getting people killed.

[kayell]

7. I agree that we should pursue the TANG scandal with every thing

we've got but we MUST keep it tied to the point that * lied then and he lies NOW.

He was a spoiled, irresponsible, rich kid with no accountability then and he is a spoiled, irresponsible, rich kid with no accountability NOW.

[Stephanie]

5. Check this thread - we're discussing this in GD2004

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x805933

We don't have his actual discharge paper. He has never released it.

[Hubert Flottz]

9. K, thanks Stephanie!

Didn't notice your thread was still kicking! This is a topic that should be kept on the front burner!

That "Spin Code" thing is something that needs looked in to!

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Is there a rule about being present to sign your discharge

The form that the WH put out is unsigned.

It says he was not available.

[Hubert Flottz]

11. How do we know what the White House put out, was typed on a

typewriter, or when they were typed? Why are there always a bunch or blacked out spaces on ANYTHING the White House hands out?

[Blue Wally]

12. True in the case of active duty

Reserve component discharges are typed and signed at locations remote from the service member. You are just a name and number to the clerks there. Active duty, you are sitting chairside while they type it up.

[Stephanie]

13. "Reserve component"? What is that?

Does that mean his Texas guard unit? We still don't have his full discharge papers.

[Blue Wally]

15. Reserve Components

Army National Guard
Army Reserve
Air National Guard
Air Force Reserve
Navy Reserve
Coast Guard Reserve

[DoYouEverWonder]

18. So was Bush "Active Duty" when he was discharged?

If he was, then the form the WH released would not be valid?

[Blue Wally]

26. No.....

By my way of reckoning, they would have given him a DD214 when he was released from active duty after his one year of flight training. When he was released from the TANG, it would have been into either the Standby or Inactive Reserve. That would have been done by a transfer order and no DD214 would have been issued.

[Stephanie]

14. Your question assumes his discharge was in fact honorable

But we don't really know that, do we? We have never seen his final paperwork, the DD 214. Right?

[Blue Wally]

16. I went through my father's papers

He was in WWII and received a DD214 when he left active duty in 1945.

After the war, he was in the National Guard for several years (1947-1954) until the pressures of his job forced him to quit going to drills.

I have a set of orders transferring him from the Michigan National Guard to the Inactive Reserve, but no DD214 for that. After my mother died, my father came to live with us and I wanted to get him an ID card so he could go shopping with my wife on base. They told me he didn't have enough time to vest in retirement, but that he was still in the Inactive Reserve and gave him a pink (reserve) ID card. He was in his late seventies then.

For an officer, I think that unless you resign your commission, they keep you on the books forever.

[PsN2Wind]

19. Dubya was given an "Honorary Discharge"

due to the influence of his daddy. An "Honorable Discharge" would have required him to fulfill his commitment and,of course, things like that are for the riff-raff.
A poster to this site once compared him to a participant in the Special Olympics in that he has always gotten medals just for showing up.

[Hubert Flottz]

20. Honorary Discharge sounds about right!

Same as his MANY degrees! Everything about him is stagecraft! The cosmetic Man!

[Pathwalker]

21. SERIOUS QUESTION: ARE THERE COPIES OF

HIS DISCHARGE???????? Or, are we just taking *'s word for the "honorable" discharge?

Thanks for your answer.

[Hubert Flottz]

22. Nobody's seen a real DD 214, so I guess we are taking his word

for it! I know he lies all the time, about things like WMD, Medicare and Saddam's ties to 9/11, but surely we can trust him on this, right? If he has nothing to hide, why does he hide EVERYTHING?

[Pathwalker]

23. Thank you for answering me, Hubert.

That's what I thought, but still, you keep hearing the journalists insisting that he was honorably discharged. POS liars! I've spent weeks asking vets if they know where theirs are, and so far they all know where theirs are - perhaps this is the point we need to push: release the DD-214s.

Thanks again for answering.

[Hubert Flottz]

24. You are quite welcome, Anj!

I have my DD 214, and have had to give people copies of it MANY times, since I received it in 1971, for different reasons!(last time was when I got 500 dollars off the price of my Jeep, for being a Vet) Vets don't lose their discharge papers, because they need them all their lives!

BTW, my DD 214 has a couple of the small (th)s like the one on Bush's records, where it says 4th and 15th ACR! (Fake numbers inserted to protect the innocent)(me)

[Pathwalker]

25. Has he even been asked about his?

Or is the press just parroting what they've been told? It is their protection of * that infuriates me the most, and short of a mass protest, I don't know WHAT we could do to get this issue to break into America's conscious. Any ideas?