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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:30 PM
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only 17 Senators left that I even remotely trust
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 07:56 PM by G_j
Nay votes on the Goss nomination:

NAYs ---17
Bingaman (D-NM)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Reed (D-RI)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Wyden (D-OR)

--edit to add:
Not Voting - 6
Akaka (D-HI)
Edwards (D-NC)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kerry (D-MA)
Santorum (R-PA)
Specter (R-PA)



someone please remind me why we are supposed to give our time energy and money to getting Dems elected?
If Bush gets four more years with Ashcroft in charge of the DOJ and PARTIOT II supporter Goss at the head of the CIA, we are completely fucked! I hate to be so negative but WTF is going on?

:argh::argh::argh:


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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:32 PM
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1. Feingold voted to approve Goss????
I am happy that my Senator Dick Durbin opposed. Barack Obama would have voted Nay as well.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:34 PM
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11. Feingold was one of eight to approve Ashcroft
and one of the ones who approved Gale Norton which to my knowledge both Kerry and Edwards opposed, I know Kerry opposed both Ashcroft and Norton but no word on Norton for Edwards. Now on Feingold, he has a belief that a president should have freeway on who ever he nominates for his cabinet but not for judges, great on those who voted against, I really like Durbin.
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:38 PM
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16. Thanks, John, Asskrap's approval was so 2001, I had forgotten.
If you like Durbin, you will really like Obama.

He only leads 68 - 23 percent, LOL.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:27 PM
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31. That's the one thing I don't like about my boy Russ
He likes to take the high road on stuff like this. The problem, of course, is that the Repugs don't have the same morals.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:28 PM
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36. I like Fiengold
on most issues (and still believe his vote against the PATRIOT Act was very courageous), but his reasoning and votes on confirmations is very flawed.

I'm happy to say that both of my senators voted against confirming him - and voted against the war and the 87 billion dollars as well.

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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:32 PM
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2. Isn't that tragic!?!
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 07:33 PM by alittlelark
I was shocked when I heard it was 77-17.

WHERE ARE FEINSTEIN AND BOXER!!!!!! They are my senators.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:33 PM
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6. Pelosi is your senator?
She's a rep dude, you mean Boxer, I was shocked to see her vote for it.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:34 PM
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9. Updated for idiocy
x(
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:35 PM
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12. s'all good
I am shocked at Boxer too honestly since she's one of the more liberal senators.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:37 PM
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15. Pelosi voted for HR 757 introduced by Henry Hyde
It links Iraq with 9/11

Doesn't matter, just get bush out, then start to clean up Congress
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:34 PM
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10. Isn't Pelosi the minority leader in the House?
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:19 PM
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35. Yes, and she (generally) ROCKS
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:32 PM
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3. Oh those are some of my favorites up there
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:32 PM
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4. Welcome to the Fourth Reich!
If Bush wins!
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:33 PM
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5. The Repugs continue to march to the beat of their drummer in mindless
lockstep.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:39 PM
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17. yep
not a single Repug on the list.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:33 PM
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7. They made the decision not to allow the Repugs to distract
from the election by giving them the ammo to suggest Dems were "blocking the admin from instituting vital security issues and reforms...." I know, I know...:eyes:

But, they are banking on Kerry being able to fire Goss on january 20.... I have little doubt he would do so, but he's got to get elected and there is room for damage by Goss and the Repugs in the meantime....
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:33 PM
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8. I share your rage. I see Mikulski sold out.....
It sounded like she might be swayed.

CRAP-A-RAMA!

Some RW idiot on Dobbs was saying that the Dems are "ruled by the left-wing liberals" D'ya get the humor???

To hell with the DLC! Starve 'em like the ratz they are, I say........

Kanary
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:46 PM
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20. yea, I called her office today
they said they didn't know where she stood on Goss.
I called a lot of the people on the list above.
None of the aids seemed to know where the Sentors stood on this.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:21 PM
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28. Interesting, because she said in her speech she was "Yea"
But, it sounded like she was swayed by some evidence against Gross. (Yes, I *meant* to type "gross")

I guess it was considered such a minor vote that they mostly didn't even bother to talk about it.

:mad:

Kanary
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:35 PM
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13. Patty Murray, where are you??
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:45 PM
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18. or cantwell
they're dems, but they don't fight as hard as their constituency would like.

jesus, get angry! the GOP is.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:15 PM
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27. She gave a great speech this morning on the deficit
sigh....... I guess they can't all be gems......

DANG!

Kanary
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:36 PM
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14. So my Senator Boxer didn't even vote no!!!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:13 PM
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25. After this election...
Dems that are not Right Wing lite shoud drop the Dem party and join the Green Party.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:45 PM
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19. Mark Dayton? So sad, that and his co-sponser of the flag amendment
Mark, Mark, Mark. :eyes:

I had great hopes for him, but imagine he felt this was a no winner so he had to not create an issue for 2006. I don't know, hard to keep making excuses.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:47 PM
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21. A salute to Tom Harkin!
:yourock:
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:54 PM
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23. Harkin has turned out to be one of our very best
gotta love him
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 07:47 PM
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22. No Jim Jeffords???
I adore him and admire him for standing up for his values. He hits the top of the list with me. :hi:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:17 PM
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33. I was looking for Jeffords, too..he didn't vote..
WHY NOT?
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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:06 PM
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24. Maybe some day you will understand politics.
The Republicans had the votes. How Democrats voted hardly matters. Read your last 2 sentences.
Politics is about power. Votes matter when you have them.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:14 PM
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26. I understand politics well enough
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 08:21 PM by G_j
to know what it has given us. An illegal war, the PATRIOT Act, Ashcroft...... bla bla bla....

Tell me why seventeen of our best Senators voted Nay then. ?

if the Republicans wanted to legalise rape and the Dems didn't have the votes would it be OK for them to vote yes?
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:24 PM
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30. lincoln chafee (sp)
.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 08:23 PM
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29. Feinstein and Boxer voted Yay?
What the hell happened to them?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:00 PM
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32. Zow! I'm surprised Hillary said Nay and Schumer
went with goss..

Thanks for this..I'm gonna watch CSI New York now on CBS..but I'll be back.
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watchingwatcher99 Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:18 PM
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34. Why did Santorum and Specter not vote?
? campaigning?
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:32 PM
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37. The 17 senators that voted against the America's Goering.
That's how history books (from other countries) will remember these Senators if Bu$h steals this election.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:00 PM
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38. I can't believe Mark Dayton would vote
for goss when I just heard he was boycotting alawai's(sp)(the new president(sic) of Iraq speech in congress..

Oh well..
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:52 AM
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39. damn
Neither one of my Democratic senators in Arkansas voted against him. But nice to see a certain Sen. Clinton did ;)
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:08 AM
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40. neither Kerry nor Edwards had the courage to cast a vote....
Since no one else has noted this, I will. This is shameful. No doubt the usual suspects will all chime in that doing so would be politically harmful, but that's the real point isn't it? Political expediency trumps moral courage every time in much of the U.S. Senate. At least Kerry and Edwards won't have to publically rationalize their vote for the Amerikan Beria-- they can't be held responsible because they didn't vote. I hope everyone remembers this when the internal security directorate tightens the noose.
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