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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:03 PM
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Who really abducted the Italians? Naomi Klein asks
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 09:04 PM by Minstrel Boy
This is a few days old, but I thought it deserved attention given the reported murder of the two Italian women.


Nothing about this kidnapping fits the pattern of other abductions. Most are opportunistic attacks on treacherous stretches of road. Torretta and her colleagues were coldly hunted down in their home. And while mujahideen in Iraq scrupulously hide their identities, making sure to wrap their faces in scarves, these kidnappers were bare-faced and clean-shaven, some in business suits. One assailant was addressed by the others as "sir".

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Most extraordinary was the size of the operation: rather than the usual three or four fighters, 20 armed men pulled up to the house in broad daylight, seemingly unconcerned about being caught. Only blocks from the heavily patrolled Green Zone, the whole operation went off with no interference from Iraqi police or US military - although Newsweek reported that "about 15 minutes afterwards, an American Humvee convoy passed hardly a block away". And then there were the weapons. The attackers were armed with AK-47s, shotguns, pistols with silencers and stun guns - hardly the mujahideen's standard-issue rusty Kalashnikovs. Strangest of all is this detail: witnesses said that several attackers wore Iraqi National Guard uniforms and identified themselves as working for Ayad Allawi, the interim prime minister.

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Western journalists are loath to talk about spies for fear of being labelled conspiracy theorists. But spies and covert operations are not a conspiracy in Iraq; they are a daily reality. According to CIA deputy director James L Pavitt, "Baghdad is home to the largest CIA station since the Vietnam war", with 500 to 600 agents on the ground. Allawi himself is a lifelong spook who has worked with MI6, the CIA and the mukhabarat, specialising in removing enemies of the regime.

A Bridge to Baghdad has been unapologetic in its opposition to the occupation regime. During the siege of Falluja in April, it coordinated risky humanitarian missions. US forces had sealed the road to Falluja and banished the press as they prepared to punish the entire city for the gruesome killings of four Blackwater mercenaries. In August, when US marines laid siege to Najaf, A Bridge to Baghdad again went where the occupation forces wanted no witnesses. And the day before their kidnapping, Torretta and Pari told Kubaisi that they were planning yet another high-risk mission to Falluja.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1305624,00.html


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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 09:06 PM
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1. That story is sooo creepy
My tinfoil hat doesn't come off much anymore.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 10:25 PM
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2. From "Democracy Now":
JEREMY SCAHILL: ...on September 7, when armed gunmen took them, a number of questions were raised by who would benefit from seizing these people. The way that it went down was about 5:00 in the afternoon. A convoy of five cars pulls up on the street. Their office is next to a hospital, only blocks away from the green zone which houses the U.S. occupation authority in the form of the U.S. Embassy, as well as the Iraqi Governing Council. Gunmen get out of the cars, some of them not wearing masks at all, clean-shaven, business suits. They stop traffic on both sides of the street very much like a law enforcement operation. And witnesses -- in fact, we had some of the reports, eyewitness reports translated from Arabic into English -- many of the eyewitness reports say that people thought this was a police operation because they were being stopped by men in uniforms. Several of the men were identified as having Iraqi National Guard uniforms on, which is significant. I'll talk about that in a second. But they block off the street. Two men approach the Bridge to Baghdad office and they have pistols with silencers and a stun gun. I have never seen a stun gun in Iraq. I have never seen a pistol with a silencer. I have never heard of those weapons being used by anyone within the Iraqi resistance. They say to the unarmed guards, really the doorman at A Bridge to Baghdad, that they're from the office of Prime Minister Iyad Allawi. They proceed then to force their way into the building. They don't just take the first people that they see. They are asking for Simona Torretta and Simona Pari by name. And when Mahnouz Bassam comes out to protest in the hallway, they grab her by her hejab, by her head scarf, and drag her from the building. This is an enormous religious transgression, for a woman to be grabbed by the head scarf that is on her head to cover her hair, and to drag her in front of witnesses into a car and throw her there. I was talking to a friend of mine last night, who is a Muslim, and I said, “If this were to happen in a marketplace somewhere, what would happen?” He said, “They would be beaten probably to death for doing it.” So they drag her out. They also take Raad Ali Abdul Azziz and the two Simonas, put them in their cars which included land cruisers, and they drive them off. 15 minutes later, a convoy of U.S. humvees comes whizzing by from the direction that they had fled in, so it was coming from the opposite direction. This was an incredibly bold operation. It was very well coordinated. It took place just blocks away from the green zone. So whoever pulled this off would have had to have had the confidence they were going to be able to abduct these people in a very precise manner, without a threat from the outside. And a number of questions are raised also by the fact that they identified themselves as representing the office of the unelected interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi. Iyad Allawi himself is a spook, a lifelong spook. He was a Ba'ath Party assassin for Saddam Hussein, bumping off enemies of the regime in Europe. He was a Muhabarat, one of the feared secret police in Iraq. After his break with Saddam, he went on to work with MI-6, the British intelligence, the Saudi intelligence and has connections to the Central Intelligence Agency. One of the key components of the iron-fisted Iraqi interim government regime right now is that they have taken so many of the thugs that worked for Saddam Hussein and put them on the Iraqi government payroll. The United States has done the same. They have hired people who were repressing, torturing, abusing Iraqis under Saddam Hussein, and they played the exact same role in the current Iraq. Many of the witnesses to this abduction said that it reminded them of the days of Saddam Hussein's Muhabarat. I heard when I was in Iraq, particularly in 2002, so many stories about people being snatched from their homes, taken away, disappeared, never to be heard from again. And this has a lot of similarities to that.

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According to an Iraqi journalist who witnessed the scene, happened to be in the area, the whole thing took less than five minutes. The abduction. Some say ten minutes. What's interesting is Newsweek and others reported -- they quoted eyewitnesses saying that there was one man that was in charge, a clean-shaven man in a gray suit who the others referred to as “Sir.” I think that we don't know who took these women, but the point is that there are people who know who have these women, and we cannot rule out the possibility that it was not an Iraqi resistance group. This hurts the Iraqi resistance tremendously, and you always have to ask who benefits in cases like this.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/09/16/147249


A blog devoted to this case (not updated since the report of the killings):

http://www.freeourfriends.blogspot.com/
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:38 PM
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3. Okay, I'll bite. Brain-dead "military special ops" can only say "sir"
No matter what the circumstance, my nephew who was in the military still says "sir" to this day when addressing or responding to any male.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:12 AM
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4. Kicked...
When 6 months ago the Press was reporting widespread kidnapping for money (anywhere's from 10 to 50 people a day), I was wondering when the Press would re-frame the story...

The World Today - Interview
Kidnappings in Iraq on the increase
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Dr Mohammed Ismail is an Iraqi exile living in Australia with his wife and children. He's in regular contact with his family, living in a safe suburb of Baghdad. A supporter of the war in Iraq, he says the security situation has deteriorated dramatically since this time last year, with kidnappings now a common occurrence.

MOHAMMED ISMAIL: Behind all this kidnapping is more greed, more money. There is nobody immune. Iraqis have been kidnapped, doctors, lecturers at university. Everyday it is happening. They kidnap children, of course for ransom.

ALISON CALDWELL: Dr Ismail visited his father in Baghdad in August last year. He says back then, the capital was a much safer place.

MOHAMMED ISMAIL: I only heard of one incident, which is a satellite phone being stolen from someone and got shot in his leg.


ALISON CALDWELL: Now, you were going to go back with your wife in May this year. Why did you cancel that visit?

MOHAMMED ISMAIL: My wife's mother is sick as well and she wanted to see her. Her father phoned and said we don't want you to come, it's not safe. Travel from Jordan to Iraq was very unsafe, a lot of kidnapping and looting. We simply told her not to come, it's not the time.

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ALISON CALDWELL: What do you make of this group, the Horror Brigade of the Secret Army that we've heard about in the last couple of days?

MOHAMMED ISMAIL: I didn't notice these names, because they change, but I think they are simply like this � they're simply after money.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1200542.htm

And this guy supported the War!!

With such an environment, black ops can move freely

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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:10 PM
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5. and again n/t
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