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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:27 AM
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Another Gay Republican Gay basher? (Again)?
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 03:21 AM by Zinfandel
http://dreier.house.gov/

The same old, same old, Republican "moral" bullshit!

The CA head of the "re-elect" Bush campaign...Do these people never fail to slime?


Congressman David Dreier, R-CA

How do these people live with themselves?
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:35 AM
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1. Hasn't this horse been beat to death?
This is like the 4th thread I've read this week with the same photo of Dreier, about outing him.

Is this closet case really that interesting?


By the way, he doesn't live with himself, he lives with his boyfriend. :)
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:41 AM
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3. Sorry, that it offends you..I see it as it NEVER fails to amaze me
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 03:25 AM by Zinfandel
of the hypocrisy of this Democratic basher (every chance he gets) and his protectors.

Maybe, I'm mis-informed...I never have a chance to read DU during the day.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:48 AM
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7. Not at all offended...
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 02:48 AM by UdoKier
I'm just not sure what the point of the post is. Almost all republicans are gay-bashers. This one happens to probably be gay himself. If there's proof of it, he should be outed because he is a hypocrite and a pig.

But just posting his picture and saying (for the umpteenth time) "Here's David Dreier. He's gay and a gay basher!" Well... Okay,. but everybody already knows. So now what?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:56 AM
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10. Well, his agenda, the same as Bush's would make your argument
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 03:26 AM by Zinfandel
a bit naive (bullshit, on Christian "morality"), No?

Because it's been spoken more than once, means, don't be a "Truth Boater" and repeat and repeat?

I find it hard not to repeat or insinuate their hypocrisy for all to see.

Obviously you don't agree?

I watched too many times these "A-moral" asshole like David Dreier bash Demoracts!

I can't and won't stay silent ever again.

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:01 AM
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12. I'm so sleepy.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying -so..

Peace out - g'night!
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:45 AM
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6. It's the unrequited anger.
Maybe somehow, sometime, someone with influence will deign to notice and start shouting from the rooftops-just loud enough to disturb the somnambulism of a few more hypocrites.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:55 AM
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9. But the GOP is AWASH with hypocrites!
Newt with his affairs, divorcing his wife while she's in the hospital with cancer , Bob Barr and his endless sexcapades, Janklow and his rape and murder of an Indian girl, and now killing a guy speeding (after about 100 speeding tickets) it goes on and on. They are ALL filthy, corrupt whoremongering pigs, who still have the nerve to crow about "family values", all the while crucifying Clinton for getting a hummer from an intern.

And the COULD NOT CARE LESS.

How is Dreier really any different?
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:29 AM
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15. The underlying tenet of hypocrisy, unfortunately, is
the absolutely predictable tendency to regard one's self and one's own kind as the "salt" of the earth. Oh, what unutterable fools we mortals be...
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:24 AM
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18. I left out something on this post.
I wrote "And the COULD NOT CARE LESS."

I meant to write "And the media COULD NOT CARE LESS."

Sorry, I was getting sleepy...
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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:37 AM
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2. Dreier's a dick
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 02:39 AM by rlev1223
Even Gay Repugs won't endorse Bush.

Plus, they've trotted out the dried up old douchebag
Phyliss Schlafly to get the hayseeds riled up some more; I heard her on NPR spouting senile drivel-then put this in the mag.....

http://www.modernmirth.com/blat.html
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:42 AM
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4. Isn't that Schlafly witch dead yet?
eom
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rlev1223 Donating Member (593 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:43 AM
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5. Not i f I can help it
She's too funny to die.
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DeadHead67 Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:51 AM
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8. She has a Gay son !. .. . ..
. . .and lives in Illinois. Think she's an Alan Keyes fan?(NO DOUBT!)
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:58 AM
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11. That's a difference between a ddem mom and a repuke mom.
The dem mom, informed that her son is gay, tries to accept it and find a way to love him as he is.

The repuke mom starts a political movement to bring back shock treatment, or otherwise try to turn her son into what SHE wants him to be. Unconditional love? PSHAW! As always is the case with repugs - complete selfishness.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:39 AM
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16. Oh what a wonderful world it would be if she (dem mom)
were just utterly thrilled to discover her son had managed, unambiguously, to find himself so early in his life, and her main concern would be that he understand how much she loves him and that she absolutely knew, all along, that he would make her so very proud. Hello, world!
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:22 AM
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17. That would be nice...
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 10:22 AM by UdoKier
And personally, I wouldn't be upset at all if my son were gay, but most dems are a bit more conventional and might need some time to adjust.

I intend to cover all the bases when I do sex ed, and that includes the fact that same-sex play and exploration in one's teens is normal, and in fact a good thing in the journey to know oneself. Hopefully my kids won't have too many hanngups and will able to be themselves without fear of what mom & dad will think.

As long as there are no babies before college graduation, and no serious VD's (IE kids take responsibility for their sexuality), I'll be perfectly fine with it.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:38 PM
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19. Actually, I think every parent needs time to adjust, even if
they are very open.

Every parent has certain expectations. My oldest daughter (all three of my kids, really) is so nice and talented, that I just figured she would marry a wonderful guy, and have great kids. She dated boys in high school.

Now I know that if they ever change the laws, she will marry a great woman and have great kids. There is an adjustment period for some parents. Others just know from an early age that their kid is gay.

Groups like PFLAG exist for a reason. Even the most loving families need help adjusting. My son had a harder time than anyone else. He is fine, now.

You do have the right idea, though, about being accepting of your kids. I wish our daughter had told us sooner than she did. We could have given her the support and love she needed much earlier. But some people have to come out to themselves first. That can't be easy.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 06:22 PM
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20. Willing to adopt me?
I would so like to redo childhood. Maybe I oughta become a born-again...NOT!
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:20 AM
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13. Her poor son!
I don't imagine that she accepts him and is proud of him.

I feel badly for gay people who can't count on the support of their families.

It should just be like, "Oh, this is my daughter, Susie. She is married to an accountant, Tom. They have six kids, and live in Minnesota. And this is my son, Joe. He and his partner, Bill, have an adopted son. They live in Maine, and teach."

Why the fuck not?

Disown your kids for being who they are? And claim to be Christians?
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:23 AM
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14. Indeed. "Why the fuck not? "
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