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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:44 AM
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Freeper vice-principal made me
remove my Kerry sticker from my classroom window as per district guidelines. She's clearly in the right on this one. I just find it interesting that this request is coming from a notorious Mepublican, while the principal, a Mepublican who's voting for Kerry this year, has left me alone on this issue.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:48 AM
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1. As long as they are doing the enforcement uniformly
Keep poltics out of K-12 schools, the military, sporting events, churches, and most importantly, chocolate chip cookies!

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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:55 AM
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4. Absolutely-
But since the special ed teacher gets to wear her bush t-shirt I guess I'll break down and buy one of those ABC shirts that is missing its "W".
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:37 AM
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7. A friend of mine
told me that her daugther's school watches something called channel 1 every day. The stated reason for this is to keep the children abreast of current events. Apparently, according to her daughter, it's nothing more than right wing propaganda being driven down the kids throats. How's that for keeping politics out of school?! :grr:
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:18 PM
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12. I Remember Channel One From School
If you're not familiar with it, try to find out about it. It's horrific.

Think three minutes of FOX NEWS for Kids, followed by seven minutes of corporate advertising, indoctrination and brainwashing.

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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:13 PM
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18. I had no idea
that this was common. We didn't have it when I was in school, and I homeschool my kids so they obviously have never been subjected to it. Unbelievable.........
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:46 PM
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17. OMG, those awful Whittle TVs!!!
We had to file a huge grievance to get them out of our schools. Since they lengthened our school day by 12 minutes, we asked to be paid for the extra 12 minutes. The pay was not the real grievance however, we actually strongly objected to a captive audience (students) being force-fed commercials from major corporations and right-wing news reporting. Because the school board could not afford to pay us for the extra 12 min per day, they took them out! I HATE Whittle!!!
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:19 PM
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20. Good for you!
Unfortunately for my friend's daughter, Channel 1 will be a part of her school day until she graduates. She lives in an affluent Republican town. Need I say more.
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Mrs_Beastman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:19 PM
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19. I remember our high school had that (grad in '92)
When we went to Iraq the first time, I was the only one in my class that called it bullshit. Got a lot of hell for that.

I wonder who sponsers that news? I know the reason our school got it, is because channel 1 offered to put T.V.'s in every classroom.
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FearofFutility Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:24 PM
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21. I graduated in '84
and we didn't have it. I bet the culprit is Rupert Murdoch.
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Mrs_Beastman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 05:50 PM
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33. It has to be him...very scary
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StrongbadTehAwesome Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 06:12 PM
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35. At my super-conservative Lutheran high school,
we only had channel 1 my freshman year (1996). They took it out after that. I remember being mad at the time, because it meant 12 more minutes of class instead of just goofing off, but now I'm really surprised they got rid of it. They walk in lockstep with the radical right on everything else...

:shrug:

I won't complain. It's one less bit of indoctrination that I and my siblings had/have to endure.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:32 PM
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29. Ugh.....Channel One... *shudders*
Every...day. Gag me.
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dietdpfan Donating Member (347 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 06:14 PM
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36. I remember getting force fed that Channel 1 garbage!
I'm glad I'm through with that!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:50 AM
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2. Heheh. Love your username!
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veteran_for_peace Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 10:55 AM
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3. My 11 year old Daughter wore my Kerry/Edwards Button to school
One of her friends told her that they couldn't be friends anymore because she doesn't support Shrub. My daughter told her that is pretty lame and that she needed to grow up.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:04 AM
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5. I like your child......
:D She's got spunk!
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:29 AM
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6. good for your daughter! my daughter wears her "Kids for Kerry" button ....
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 11:31 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
everyday to school and has started a "Kids for Kerry" club in her school....we went to Boston for the Democratic Convention with me (she asked to go) and she protested with me and actually had the anti-abortionists kicked out of Quincy Market by the police ,because these creeps were attacking her and her girlfriend telling them they were going to burn in hell for eternity for supporting Kerry and they had huge posters of mutilated fetus'and was shoving them in her face...the police saw what they were doing and made all of them leave Quincey Market...my daughter and her classmate are only 12 years old...and she could debate with these morans very intelligently ..i was very proud of her as you must be :7

sounds like they could be friends>>>your daughter and mine :hug:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:43 PM
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30. My son
is eleven and just started 6th grade. The other day he came home and proceeded to tell me all about what he had learned in school
that day -- depleted uranium and it's long-term effects on people and the planet.

I was floored! I knew about DU (not much, but I was aware), but I never expected this! He told me about what * is doing to our troops, the Iraqis, anyone who comes in contact with this dust as it is blown about the planet, and the ecological effects.

To make this even more astounding to me: we live in TEXAS!

What a great teacher! What a brave teacher. :headbang:
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:17 PM
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10. Smart girl! nt
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:22 PM
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13. My 12 year old wears her KIDS FOR KERRY dogtag every day..
.. a few kids have made rude remarks. One said Kerry is bad because he wants to help "homosexuals marry". My daughter said, "umm.. my unlce is gay, and he should have the right to marry who ever he wants".

Another kid dissed her dogtags, saying.. "Kids for Kerry? Kerry just made that up for publicity!". She replied, "no, it was started by a girl OUR age named Ilana Wexler." When another girl told her Kerry was "sleazy" and Bush was a "good Christian man", she replied, "tell me what you think is good about Bush and bad about Kerry. She always replies to these kids fairly politely, yet they can never respond to further questioning...

I was tres political at her age... and though I'm the stepmom, it has rubbed off on her in a big way. Cool. And.. she knows her stuff, she's not just parroting things she hears at home.
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:44 PM
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16. I don't ever remember being so politicized as a kid.
I am stunned I keep hearing things like this.

This generation that grew up in the shadow of 9/11 fallout may be the scariest one yet, if they swallow all the lies the right wants them to believe. Hello holocaust, american style.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:59 PM
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32. I got punched out for chanting anti Nixon slogans in elementary school
There were a bunch of us riled up about Nixon and this one mini proto-freeper came up and started thumping on us.

Politics hasn't changed much as far as I can see.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 11:43 AM
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8. Other messages should be okay, though.
How about these:

"Question Authority"

"Peace"

etc. As long as they are general sentiments we are all SUPPOSED to agree with. They can still spur your kids' thinking and inquisitiveness,

Maybe also highlight with posters some of the better books - "Fahrenheit 451", "1984", Animal Farm, Brave New World, Grapes of Wrath, and for balance, you could have the kids read "The Fountainhead" or "Atlas Shrugged" and see what the kids think of the protagonists' sociopathic attitudes.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:15 PM
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9. Well, they are third graders, Udo-
So we're enjoying "My Pet Goat" right now...:P
Just kidding.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:18 PM
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11. OOPS. I was imagining middle-schoolers or higher.
So you put up a Kerry sticker for 3rd graders? You start early!

You know what's scary? With people like Lynne Cheney putting out children's books like "A Patriotic Primer" - that school districts would put these things on required-reading lists... :puke:
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:23 PM
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14. Or the Texas legislators that forced Harcourt Brace to remove Al Gore..
.. from a textbook, because they felt it was "politically divisive". No lie..
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:41 PM
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15. I have Kerry bumper sticker on my car at school
and sometime park in the faculty parking lot. I see lots of bush stickers on cars there, and no one had said anything about our bumper stickers on the cars. I think this is because they are our private property. Until we went out on strike in 1988, we were not even allowed to have a yard sign in our private yards!!! We could not participate in any way in politics. If we wrote a letter to the editor, we were reprimanded. My, how things are a changin' for we teachers!
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:28 PM
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22. "Mepublican" -- lol..that's great.

Totally on target. It's all about ME...screw you guys, I'm going home.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:06 PM
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28. Yeah, I stole it from my friend's crusty old Democrat dad
who says "Mepublican" exclusively, as though he's never given a thought to calling them republicans.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:31 PM
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23. vice principal called me last year
to tell me a teacher had asked my son to be removed into another classroom as he was "challenging him" (this is debate class)

I was so upset! Vice prinicpal reassured me saying the teacher was a religious nut and he liked my son a lot more than the teacher...and went on to compliment me on raising such a great kid.

thank the lord there is one dem at the high school.
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:45 PM
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24. Same thing at my kids school
They make them read this "Time for Kids" it is repulsive. Two years ago at the same school a teacher made my son write a letter telling president Bush he was behind him all the way. He wrote one telling Bush his parents didn't vote for him and war is wrong. She made him re write it. That was one parent teacher meting to remember.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:00 PM
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26. Wow!
I thought we were all supposed to be a bunch of secular humanists.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 06:11 PM
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34. holy moly!
thought we had it bad here! Would have gone to school board and called newspaper!

You're much nicer than me....
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:02 PM
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25. Iran hostage crisis
I was in 3rd grade in Mission Viejo, CA. When the hostages came home everyone was supposed to wear yellow ribbons to school. My parents, staunch Democrats, were the only ones who did not send us to school with said ribbons.

The principal was waiting for us on the curb, ribbons in hand. She pinned us before we were allowed inside.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:04 PM
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27. I wanna throw up
when I see those damn yellow ribbons, because I feel that, like the flag, it isn't so much about the troops or patriotism as much as it is about the "you're either with us or agin us" line of thought, a clique, a line in the sand. I'm not saying this is true of everyone with the ribbons, but there is something "in your face" about it.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:47 PM
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31. I'm a freedom from religion guy myself
And not wearing the same ribbon as everyone else is kinda part of that!
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:17 PM
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37. Update-
I have removed the Kerry sticker from my classroom window and am now parking in a public parking lot right next to the school, in full view of anyone pulling into the school parking lot. My John Kerry yard sign is taped to my driver side window. It is way more visible than my sticker was.

Two fifth grade Mepublican teachers were visibly angry this morning when they saw me, and one of them said, "Nice statement."
I pretended not to know what she was talking about.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:18 PM
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38. I sure do love pissing them off
I love living miles away from them even more, but pissing them off is fun.

Question for all DUers: What have YOU done to piss off a Republican today? Hey, I think I'll start a thread...
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