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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:04 PM
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anyone else think this is all just going to burn anyway?
I guess i'm just looking at the big picture, and there's just no end in sight to all the bullshit. The oil is running out, we won't change our foreign policy, rich get richer, poor get poorer, fox news keeps blathering on. Personally i think we'll all just keep buying useless shit and eating mcdonalds until it all comes to a screeching halt.



I'm in a crap mood today.


:evilfrown: :argh:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:06 PM
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1. That screeching you hear is the IMF crumbling and the end is near
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:07 PM
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2. you are not alone
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:07 PM
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3. I have those days.
When I have them I think I might take up smoking again. It will pass, I hope. Try smiling a bunch, it always helps me to elevate my mood at least a little. Feel better, Ok?
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:09 PM
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Saner heads will prevail eventually
but it may take a civil war to do it.
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:09 PM
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4. I used to...
...but I was a fundamentalist.

Let the RWers and the fundys cling to the idea of "The End of the World." They need it for political and religious reasons.

Meanwhile, back in reality, it's best to view the current set of circumstances as yet another obstacle to overcome. So far the human race is yet to be extinquished or to successfully extinquish itself.

Not that we couldn't, but I believe most people want to keep on working to improve things.

Don't you?
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:11 PM
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5. I'm not talking about "end of days" or anything..
just that we can't keep going doing what we're doing, and being old enough to know that people NEVER change unless they have no other options.

i'm athiest FWIW.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:15 PM
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6. The breakdown of the current corrupt system is not the end of mankind
it is only the start of the new dark ages
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:16 PM
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7. It's called 'future shock'
Alvin Toffler wrote about it extensively, long before anyone else ever thought about it.

Hang in there...it gets better.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:17 PM
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8. Right now, the world is experiencing the greatest mass extinction since
the end of the Cretaceous Period. And hardly anyone knows about it.

The sky isn't falling, but the oceans are dying. We've set the planet on course for a Venusian future, and I think it's already too late to do much about that. Even if there were the economic and political will to do so. And there isn't.

I agree with you. And I'm not even in a crap mood.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:38 PM
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10. I've brought "mass extinction" up before, and been called "alarmist"...
It's utterly amazing to me how people actually think that the ecosystems on this planet (on which we ALL depend as our source of life) will somehow be able to remain intact as we are literally ripping them asunder.

I bring up the mass extinction data. People respond, "Well, we'll just concentrate on keeping those species we need for survival." It's as if they think we can just keep certain plants, cows, pigs and chickens alive while letting all the rest of the world go to shit -- not even realizing that there is a whole big pyramid under each one of those species.

I bring up how industrialized agriculture is literally destroying topsoil. People respond, "Oh, we'll make another agricultural advance that will increase production so we won't starve." Never mind the fact that topsoil takes tens of thousands of years to regenerate, and you need topsoil to grow crops.

And all of this is right here, on these boards! Never mind the center-right or right-wing types.... :eyes:

It's not a question of "if" we make our planet uninhabitable for humankind -- rather, it's a question of "when". The political will to change our course is so completely lacking -- and even if it were present, I'm not certain what kind of difference it would truly make.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:01 PM
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11. The changes I see
in my own little 53 acres and the surrounding area scare me to death. I have seen such dramatic change in the last 5 years that it has me reeling. I have been wondering if something very bad is just around the corner. Where are the birds? Where are all the honey bees? Butterflies? I could ask that question about a lot of things. The change here has been dramatic and it has an explanation but I can't find it. West Nile perhaps but the change started before that was recognized. I am not trying to be an alarmist but I think the point of no return has been reached and we are seeing the beginning of some real problems.
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:18 PM
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9. Thought that for a long time.. maybe it has to do with being "front line"
in this country....... those of us who are poor, and are paying attention, know that we're very likely to be exterminated in the not-to-distant future.

We'll be gone first, then the muddleclass will start feeling *real* heat......

:nuke:

Kanary
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