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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:33 AM
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wow oh wow....Schneider.....
Just said that Kerry has "found his voice" and this was a clear message... I'm almost fell out of my chair...

Bush guy now repeating that Kerry thinks we're safer if Sadaam was in power...that's all they have...HA!!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:38 AM
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1. At this point
Some people probably do believe that we are safer with Saddam in power. "He could control those animals."
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:49 AM
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2. At this point most Iraqis think Iraq was better with Saddam
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:56 AM
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5. With Saddam in power,
Iraq was stable, contained, secular, and posed no military or terrorist threat to anyone. With him gone, Iraq is a hotbed of insurgency, nascent as well as established terrorist groups, a rallying point for anti-Western and anti-American sentiment, and an increasingly radicalized population. It also represents a destabilizing force on the entire region.

This is a completely separate issue from whether Saddam was a bad man and a vicious, cruel dictator, which he was. There are many such dictators in the world. That fact, however, had no relevance to our own security, or the safety of the world.

I really don't see how it can be argued that the world is safer with Saddam gone. It has nothing to do with Iraqis being "animals", just the natural dynamics of what happens to an already divided society under the pressure of foreign military occupation, in a highly volatile part of the world.
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FrankBooth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:18 AM
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6. Reminds me of Tito in Yugoslavia
A repressive dictator who was able to keep long-standing ethnic conflicts from erupting (albeit through repressive means.) Within a decade of Tito's death there was a nasty civil war and the country disintigrated.
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bagnana Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:22 AM
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7. yuk
your pictures gross me out (only the ones on the left)
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GOPNotForMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:24 AM
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8. It's a Bush camel toe. *shudder* (n/t)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:26 AM
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9. yeah....
....we'd better hope that the grannies at freerepublic don't see these animated crotch shots. They already get hot over the still photos, posting the crotch shots on a W photo thread every day and swooning.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:05 PM
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10. My husband's father was Italian
And lived in Italy under Mussolini. According to my husband, he always spoke highly of him.

But then, a lot of people speak highly of Dubya, too.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:09 PM
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11. Your rotating chimp crotch almost made me yak-up my breakfast.
:puke:
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 01:37 PM
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15. me 2. what a disgusting package that is. Hurl.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 01:59 PM
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17. History will prove to be a harsh judge
of this period in US history when looked at through 20/20 hindsight. Bu$h has thrown the proverbial rock at the hornets nest and the hornets are just following their natural survival instincts.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 01:50 PM
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16. Actually, a lot of people I know think that
Because of the proliferation of terrorism there.
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 02:51 PM
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18. I have the clip of Jennings
setting the record straight.."what Kerry really said. How do I get it from 'favorites' to my reply? Also, is there any way to copy more than one item at a time to paste in a reply? Thanks.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:51 AM
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3. Look at it this way: Saddam and Osama bin Laden were mortal enemies
n/t

:evilfrown:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 10:55 AM
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4. I think it's possible Schneider is on the verge of being outed as AEI...
Schneider, on the payroll of both an ultra-conservative think-tank and a "trusted" news source, and with an undeniable political agenda. His assertion that Osama and AlQaeda support Kerry was way over the top --

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:09 PM
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12. In a sane world this revelation would be scandalous
in our world it merits an "oh really?"

CNN was taken over by the pod people at some point when we weren't looking.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:14 PM
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13. Well wouldn't that be something.
I do hope you're right about him being outed. It's inexcusable that CNN gives him air time without disclosing his ties to AEI. I zapped off a nasty email to them yesterday at the urging of Media Matters. I've sent them numerous similar ones that seemed to have fallen on blind eyes, but maybe David Brock after them will have an impact.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 12:59 PM
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14. That's what I'm hoping -- and the quote was in an article...
on WP, page one today, about the Republicans going too far in their rhetoric. Dana Milbank used Schneider as an example of an "independent" commentator who had said similar. Some might have emailed to set Milbank straight on that -- that Schneider is not independent, but AEI.
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