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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:25 PM
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MUST READ: JAW-DROPPING and SCARY September 11th White House Discoveries!
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 12:16 AM by DanSpillane
Yikes! More evidence uncovered since my first 9/21/04 story!

--SEE LINK BELOW FOR GRAPH AND OTHER LINKED MATERIALS--

(quote from story below)
"What’s incredible is how many signs point to the fact that the White House knew about September 11th in advance. Clearly, not one but at least five pieces of evidence exist. Based on the unusual stock pattern of Halliburton after the White House warning memo, the special advance timing of the Halliburton WMD contract, the VIX and put/call indicators, and more, actions were being taken by those in the White House, and were leaked to a select few."

(story without links)
Halliburton Traded on 9-11 Warning Memo
By Dan Spillane, The Liberty Whistle
--Stock dropped 18.6 percent from August 6th thru September 10th 2001, unlike other similar cos.
--Halliburton awarded “WMD Contract”--one day before attack
--Two special stock indicators signaled “crisis” on Sep 10th--but no news was public

(SEATTLE) 09/21/04 – (UPDATE2) A series of new findings brings into serious doubt Bush Administration claims regarding September 11th, and suggests the work of the 9-11 Commission is incomplete. According to what Bush told the public, and as documented in the 9-11 report, the August 6th memo delivered to the White House, which warned of imminent attacks (“Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US”) was described as “historical in nature,” and therefore was essentially ignored by the White House. (1) So, as far as the public knows, no actions were taken based on the memo.

It’s not like the US hasn’t been looking for unusual pre-9-11 actions—in fact, the 9-11 report examined stock trading before the attacks, and concluded with some degree of confidence that there weren’t any stock profits taken based on information before the attacks. Unfortunately, the 9-11 report provides no details on how such stock analysis was done--and importantly, the report makes no mention of isolating events in terms of the August 6th White House memo. In short, the 9-11 commission tried to find “needles in haystacks.”

Indeed, then it should be of no surprise that a comparison of stock trading specifically before and after August 6th, in terms of “sector behavior” and other indicators reveals more information, and illustrates an interesting and hitherto undiscovered pattern. (2) Incredibly, in this light, a major divergence is visible in the stock of Halliburton Corporation. Moreover, this divergence is punctuated not only by the dates of August 6th and September 11th, but was also echoed in a September 10th contract award to Halliburton.

As seen in a long-term stock chart, Halliburton has consistently traded in line with its closest competitor, Schlumberger. And it did this up until August 6th 2001. On the other hand, Halliburton stock dropped 18.6 percent from August 6th thru September 10th 2001, while the volume spiked—even as Schlumberger stock only dropped a tiny 3.7 percent, and the overall index measuring the oil sector was actually up slightly over the same period. In short, in the two dozen trading days between the memo and Sept 11th, a drastic shift occurred as compared to the same number of days before August 6th. In the charts below, the red line represents when the White House received the Sept. 11th warning; price went down, volume went up:



The next question--were there any negative announcements about Halliburton between August 6th and September 10th? No there weren’t--in fact, Halliburton received at least 1.2 billion dollars in new contracts. But even more interesting, is what happened on September 10th.

You see, Halliburton deals in oil services, with some additional services to the military. Yet on the day before September 11th—and only once and on that day—did Halliburton receive a new kind of assignment, containing a phrase now in the lexicon of so many Americans. Astonishingly, on September 10th, 2001, the news read “Halliburton Unit Picked to Participate in Program to Reduce Threat of Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” (Source: Halliburton)

Click here to read about Sep 10, 2001 Halliburton WMD project award

Also, the stock market volatility index (the “VIX”), a measure of market fear, suddenly shot up after the August 6th White House memo. By September 10th 2001, the VIX index spiked up to a level over 30-a level-not seen since the Asian crisis. Yet, in the Asian crisis case, news of disaster was already out in the open, which contrasts sharply with September 10th 2001--when no bad news was known to the public. Remarkably, this shows certain stock market investors knew a crisis was going to happen--the day before September 11th. The VIX action also corresponds with Halliburton stock and business moves related to the August 6th and September 10th dates.

Next, in line with the spike in the VIX, yet another indicator foretold September 11th. The put/call stock options ratio—a measure of sophisticated investors betting on a market fall—peaked twice. First, the ratio peaked for the options transition period immediately after the White House memo, and before September 11th (which crested on August 17th)) and next, it peaked on September 10th, the day before the strike. Once again, the put/call ratio peaks correspond with Halliburton moves related to the August 6th and September 10th dates.

Finally, a very close associate of Mr. Cheney made a business move on September 10th.

What’s incredible is how many signs point to the fact that the White House knew about September 11th in advance. Clearly, not one but at least five pieces of evidence exist. Based on the unusual stock pattern of Halliburton after the White House warning memo, the special advance timing of the Halliburton WMD contract, the VIX and put/call indicators, and more, actions were being taken by those in the White House, and were leaked to a select few. But these actions were not to defend the American people. No, instead, these actions were taken to defend Halliburton stockholders and a select few, and further, to enhance their profits.

US citizens, and especially relatives of September 11th victims, should contact their representatives in Congress, demanding a full investigation of the business and stock activities of Halliburton after the White House was warned.

(1) “The President told us the August 6 report was historical in nature.” (9-11 report, chapter 8) (2) “Sector comparison” looks at how similar companies trade in relatively undifferentiated areas, such as those in commodities or generic services—including oil services.

CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW FOR THE FULL STORY
AND CALL YOUR DAMN CONGRESS PERSON IMMEDIATELY ABOUT THIS OUTRAGE!

www.libertywhistle.us
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:30 PM
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1. kick!
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SomthingsGotaGive Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:33 PM
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2. drip drip drip
Is there a leaky faucet somewhere.

kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:57 PM
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3. Is there a mainstream reporter on this story yet?
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drunkdriver-in-chief Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:09 AM
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8. This sort of thing is too complex for the media
That's why i think we should focus on simple facts like these 3 -The "vaporization" of flight 77 after it hit the pentagon. WTC7 collapsed even though nothing hit it. Our air defenses were non-existent on 9-11.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:14 AM
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11. NO we need to focus on things which can be PROVEN
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 12:17 AM by DanSpillane
All the things I cite are a matter of record, and assembling the correct charts, facts, and figures.

Sit me down with a good reporter, and I'll prove these all!
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RebelYell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:19 PM
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46. Get in touch with Daniel Hopsicker
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-24-04 11:58 PM
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4. link?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:02 AM
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5. THE LINK IS AT THE BOTTOM--
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:07 AM
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7. NO IT IS NOT!
Link please
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:09 AM
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9. THE LINK IS


LINK BELOW--with the ".us" on the end!!!!

www.libertywhistle.us
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:37 AM
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29. Thanks, very interesting link. n/t
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:10 AM
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10. Even after your :06 edit I can't find the link
little help?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:15 AM
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12. There must be a DU bug--type this in for the link


type this into your browser

www
dot
libertywhistle
dot
us
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:18 AM
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13. Your link works fine for me.
:-)
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:39 AM
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17. The other stories on the site are good too
Read the one about Hurricanes.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:59 AM
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18. Lots of good stuff to read.
The hurricane piece was very interesting. It's frightening to think of what could happen if we are looking at a combo of natural cycle and global climate change. :scared: I don't know how much more Floridians can take this year, and God help them if this pattern repeats for several years.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:14 AM
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19. Who is talking about the global warming issue???
Neither of the candidates!

Bush should resign, based on the hurricanes and his SUV tax break alone!
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:07 AM
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33. Neither candidate, but I did hear someone talk about
it on MSNBC yesterday when they were discussing all the hurricanes. Of course, the conclusion the "expert" reached was that the jury was still out.

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:21 AM
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14. That works fine, thank you....
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 12:35 AM by BrotherBuzz
test, this only a test:http://www.libertywhistle.us/

on edit: bookmarked!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 02:27 AM
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23. kick
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:02 AM
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6. LINK PLEASE
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:27 AM
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15. Looks good
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 12:27 AM by kwolf68
Need links. This kinda stuff could put people in jail (possible death sentences) and eliminate the Republican Party as a viable alternative for decades.

Though I'd love to have Dems in complete control, I honestly don't want this type of stuff to be true. No matter how vile they are, to think they would allow this to happen is mind-boggling.

Still, whether the attacks were known or just the result of mere incompetence, these frauds need to get gone.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 12:29 AM
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16. CHENEY->JAIL!!! I could put more charts in for the VIX and PUT CALL RATIO
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 12:51 AM by DanSpillane
But might have to wait until monday. Someone else could do it if they want; if they want to see Cheney in jail. I honestly would feel bad. He said something nice once about his daughter.

I agree, someone could go to jail; I'm sorry, but all those people died. I talked to one victim on the phone a few times, quite a while before it happened.

They deserve to have this investigated, and we deserve to know the truth.

Looks like the WhiteHouse f'd up this whole thing, we all need to get over it and get a new president.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:47 AM
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20. kick
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:51 AM
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21. You think merely getting a new president is going to 'fix' this problem?
If you're going to go down this rabbit hole, you have to go all the way down. 9/11 was not the result of any incompetence; it was something far more sinister. See, for example, this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2410375
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 01:56 AM
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22. Clearly--
The items I cite shows evidence of problems with Mr. Cheney that goes beyond incompetence. Profit motives are

I challenge anyone with forensic experience to look at the evidence I presented.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:16 AM
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24. ok, now we can all happily chant,
in a singsong kind of voice: "and Edwards was a trial lawyer, Edwards was a trial lawyer" as we thumb our collective noses at Dick Cheneying Cheney.

Will there be vice debates? *holds breath* Please?

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:31 AM
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27. Riddly, singsong-ish--but correct
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 10:39 AM by DanSpillane
And come to think of it, Edwards IS the perfect lawyer to get his mind around this travesty.

In fact, if he DOESN'T win the election--poor Cheney--Edwards could bring some kind of super-suit about these crimes on behalf of the American people, no?

There--we have more material for the movie, and I guess begrudingly, I am the star of the first few scenes.

"TORT REFORM THIS!" to Bush and Cheney--in jail!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:32 AM
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28. Abe Lincoln was a trial lawyer..and ain't they always bragging about
being the party of Lincoln? Or is that the party of Lincoln Navigators?

:shrug:

and a

:kick:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:22 AM
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25. kick
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:29 AM
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26. Major kick!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:37 AM
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30. MEGA-KICK
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:03 AM
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32. Nah. HYPER-kick.
I was always wondering what those trades were all about.

So, was it Cheney, PNAC, or what? This makes it look like Cheney was one, at least, who had real, purely financial motivation to at least allow the 9/11 attacks to occur. But if you add in the wargames.....

:scared:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:56 AM
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36. IN one word, "Treason"...n/t
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 10:52 AM
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31. KICK
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:12 AM
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34. The charts are messed up, does anyone have a clearer picture? n/t
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:44 AM
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35. Sorry I squished them to fit in the column
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 11:55 AM by DanSpillane
They really are clear enough to see, plus, the nice part, is you can make your own!

The stock price and volume charts are for the approximate two weeks before, and after the August 6th 2001 White House memo.

You can find the VIX and PUT/CALL values if you look hard enough, and are sharp. In fact, it would be nice to have those underneath the other two!

I will try to get in more charts early next week--if no one else beats me to it.

WHAT A DISCOVERY!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:57 AM
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37. I generated this on morningstar
halliburton vs. schlumberger

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:13 PM
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38. They synchronized right back at the Iraqi invasion
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:31 PM
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44. I should have gone back 2 more months
I realized the three year chart on morningstar doesn't pick up Aug 6, it's only going back to the end of September, because that's when I generated it. I need a 3.5 year option there.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:31 PM
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47. What we need is the 24 trading days--both before and after August 6th
THEN lay over the VIX graph.
THEN lay over the PUT/CALL graph

They all line up, it is amazing!
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:49 PM
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50. What are those four spikes in the 'Volume; field all about???
They stick out like a sore thumb.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:58 PM
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52. It isn't all four, but the ONE BIG SPIKE AFTER August 6th PDB
Edited on Sun Sep-26-04 11:59 PM by DanSpillane
The significant pattern is the sell off on high volume after the White House was warned about September 11th on August 6th.

Either Cheney tipped off big Halliburton investors about Sept 11th, or they bought derivatives so they could make money on a stock fall.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:19 PM
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39. Kick!
:kick:
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:28 PM
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40. Listen to what Stanley Hilton has to say about this subject...
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:34 PM
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41. Interesting...
Thanks for sharing. I bookmarked your site. How often do you update it?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:45 PM
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42. I am going to do an update of the story this week
I update it whenever I get a story idea, or I find more data on one of my story lines.

The title might change to a more catchy one I just thought of.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 10:34 PM
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45. I'd be happy to make some charts for you
If you want to email me the data, I'll make some spiffy charts for you that are a bit more readable. It's one of my obscure talents/obsessions.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:35 PM
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48. HERE IS THE EXACT CHART I NEED 48 days total
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:07 AM by DanSpillane
ONE LINE EACH
HALLIBURTON STOCK PRICE -- 24 DAYS BEFORE AND AFTER August 06 2001; i.e., from July 2 through sept 10th
HALLIBURTON STOCK VOLUME OVER THE SAME PERIOD
SCHLUMBERGER STOCK PRICE OVER SAME PERIOD

VIX (or ^VIX, Yahoo quotes) OVER THE SAME PERIOD

PUT/CALL RATIO, OVER THE SAME PERIOD

Now for the PUT/CALL RATIO, I CAN PULL THE NUMBERS FROM A DATABASE

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:37 PM
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49. HERE IS THE VIX DATA NEEDED ON THE MASTER GRAPH
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:23 AM by DanSpillane
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hp?s=%5EVIX&a=06&b=1&c=2001&d=08&e=10&f=2001&g=d


SEE HOW IT SPIKED OVER 30 ON SEPTEMBER 10th--and jumped very quickly there from a few days before!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:49 PM
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51. HERE IS THE PUT-CALL DATA FROM 07/02
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 12:06 AM by DanSpillane
0.62 07/02/01
0.64
0.66
0.9
0.78
0.94
0.87
0.51
0.65
0.8
0.63
0.84
0.76
0.82
0.75
0.75
0.81
0.54
0.47
0.57
0.6
0.58
0.55
0.76
0.66 AUGUST 6TH WHITE HOUSE MEMO
0.81 PUT CALL
0.82
0.76 KEEPS GOING UP AFTER AUGUST 6TH!!!!!!!!!
0.72
0.73
0.74
0.88
0.96
1.07 FIRST SPIKE OVER 1.0 -- FIRST OPTIONS EXPIRATION AFTER WHITE HOUSE MEMO; MUCH OF IT WAS APPARENTLY "INDEX PUTS" -- BETS THE WHOLE MARKET WOULD CRASH!!!
0.59
0.68
0.72
0.64
0.56
0.6
0.88
0.85
0.94
0.82
0.83
0.97
0.98
0.84
1.01 SEPTEMBER 10TH 2001 !!!!! NOTICE IT IS OVER ONE!!!! ALSO MANY MANY INDEX PUTS BETTING ON A CRASH THE NEXT DAY ALSO NOTICE HOW NUMBERS WERE VERY HIGH ALL WEEK

NEXT DAY -- BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM SEPTEMBER 11TH!!!!
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 07:10 AM
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58. Thanks
I'll throw it together during my breaks and/or after work today.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 08:49 AM
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59. Wow!
I have class today and will be checking in.

Dan
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 09:24 PM
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63. oops
one more day needed here, thanks to my moveon metg lasting way longer than I planned, and having to payoff my daughter with ice cream afterwards for going to it. :)

I got the data in the charts, but I want to overlay some things on different scales still.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:16 PM
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65. Okay--I thought of a GREAT NEW TITLE for the next update
Edited on Mon Sep-27-04 10:19 PM by DanSpillane
I thought of a GREAT new title for the story when it is re-released in UPDATE3. I can't wait. Also, I have some new perspective and data...and some editorial changes; one of my descriptions is slightly off the mark, upon reading it again.

This could get REAL exciting, if the graph is done right! You could put a little "white house icon" on August 6th line.

The one view of 24 days before and after might look best.

Send me an e-mail if you want at DanSLegal@aol.com
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:49 PM
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60. p.s. I will put your graph on my web site later
Thanks--I will add credits if you want to give your name. You can also send me e-mail at DanSLegal@aol.com
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:02 AM
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69. Check your email.
I sent a link to the graph, just wanted to let you know in case this email gets bounced back too.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:47 PM
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43. p.s. I talked with a long-time friend about this
He is really sharp with math and politics. Basically, he said at one point "most of America is even dumber than politicians"

There is no easy way to explain away my findings. The nice part is most of the data is out in the public--it is just a matter of looking in the right places, and doing the right charts and comparisons.
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Tangledog Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 11:58 PM
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53. Just a kick; interesting stuff n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:07 AM
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54. OK, for you morning people
Here's a :kick:
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urbanguerrilla Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:08 AM
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55. kick!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 01:04 AM
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57. kick
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 12:13 AM
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56. Link works for me
Kick! Interesting stuff!
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 04:10 PM
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61. Kick!
:kick:
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 05:21 PM
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62. kick
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:10 PM
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64. If this is New Info then please check out:
www.fromthewilderness.com

www.inplanesite.com

www.huntheboeing.com

all of the 911 websites

There is a real case to be made that not only did they know in advance but that BushCo/Mossad was an active planner/implementer of the 911 tragedy.

A lawyer by the name of Stanley Hilton is personally suing Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, etc. for 911 on behalf of the families of those who died. Now Stanley Hilton doesn't seem to be a crack-pot as he went to school (U of Chicago) with Wolfewitz, Pearle - some of those guys - he also was an Assistant to Bob Dole. And Hilton's thesis in college was on how one could go about "militarizing" the US if a "Pearl Harbour type" event was staged. As you know we are basically under military law right now based on the heightened terror alerts and the Patriot Act.

There is alot of information out there. If you haven't seen Michael Moore's film, then go to www.buzzflash.com and scroll to the bottom of the first page to the link of George Bush sitting and reading the goat story for 7 minutes while planes were attacking us. You can't watch that video with out wondering what in the h^$% is going on in Bush's mind. It's incredible.

Thank you for the opportunity to share my thoughts.

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-27-04 10:33 PM
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66. MINOR UPDATE 3 ADDED TO WEBSITE--
Major UPDATE4 coming soon!!!
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SophieZ Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:15 PM
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67. Dan -- make sure
you check and see whether the asbestos litigation that's been plaguing Halliburton's KBR division was doing anything during that time. They've tried to get help from Congress to limit their liability or otherwise squirm out of having to pay those injured.

The asbestos has been an overhang on their stock price, but without doing the research I couldn't say whether anything was happening on it, in terms of settlement or Congress, during that time frame.

You should check, though. Those who know Halliburton will wonder about it, if it's not addressed.

(The asbestos liability came from Dresser, an old stomping ground of George H. W. Bush. Dresser .. and its asbestos liabilities ... was bought by Halliburton as part of Cheney's leadership at Halliburton.)
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 07:53 PM
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68. You COULD remove the stock price of Halliburton entirely
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 08:48 PM by DanSpillane
Thanks for the concern, which is noted.

The stock price movement is only one of many correlated moves (five).

The Halliburton Sep 10 announcement, with the other elements, makes for a convincing story.

However, I note that the Halliburton movement on stock price didn't come until AFTER the asbestos case judgement--which was much later in the year.

There was no news on asbestos in the time period examined. As I stated, only positive halliburton contract announcements between the dates. And no negative asbestos news prior.

In the next release of the story, the Halliburton part of it will be put in a slightly different context with appropriate wording. Then on the chance that someone will argue about the stock price and asbestos--you can simply say "Well just ignore that one factor if it bothers you, even if there wasn't any bad asbestos news out." At worst, then you might question who was selling Halliburton stock on bad asbestos news that wasn't public yet. But that is another issue, and seems to re-double the overall point of the story.

In short, The VIX and the PUT/CALL ratio and the rest aren't related to the Halliburton stock price.
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