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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:24 PM
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Who's reading *Chain of Command* by Sy Hersh? First chap
talks about the SAP. I knew about the ghost prisoners and also that prisoners were being farmed out to terrorist countries, like Egypt, according to the Washington Post. But didn't know about secret unit authorized by Rumsfeld to torture terrorist suspects

http://www.guardian.co.uk/guantanamo/story/0,13743,1303294,00.html

Is the SAP still operating? I would presume so.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:28 PM
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1. I am.
I haven't got to that yet. I stopped after 15 pages, I was just so saddened by what I was reading. Plan to pick it back up in a few minutes , just as soon as I complete my DU fix.
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luaneryder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:44 PM
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2. Is it that bad?
I have it, but finishing KK's first. I don't know if I could take "Bush on the Couch".
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:09 PM
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3. No, it's a great book! Great read. If you've read any of Sy Hersh's
articles in the New Yorker, you'll know how professionally and thoroughly he discusses his subject. I believe that at least some of the material in the book is taken from his articles of this year.

I don't want to speak for the other poster, but I'm guessing it's because as you read it, you see how thoroughly the government is hoodwinking the public as it trashes the Geneva convention, while Congress avoids investigative committees to get to the truth.. and no one fired.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:23 PM
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4. I think that's it
Reading this crap and knowing that no one is really being punished for these war crimes is enough to send a person into an emotional tailspin. I actually own the book but haven't started reading it yet ebcause I'm going off my mental health meds, and just can't deal with this shit while I'm still pretty vulnerable. (That and I'm ass deep in my last semester of graduate school.)
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:33 PM
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7. I've had to read it in small doses.
It's horrifying to think that we're being hoodwinked to the extent we are by the media whores and Administration. Six months ago I would have breezed through it, but as things stand now I am so disgusted by the thought that this election could be close that I find it hard to deal with the reality of the abuses being perpetrated by this group of thugs.

Sometimes the truth is hard to take, and as an American I feel responsibility to create real change in policy.
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mourningdove92 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 09:05 PM
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8. The book is excellent. However, the subject matter makes
me want to weep. For the last 4 years I have watched in horror, and I still cannot fathom how this administration has gotten away will all their shenanigans.

Americans let 9/11 turn this country into a bunch of wimps who just wring their hands and let the government do as it pleases, for the sake of "security".
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 07:54 PM
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5. Just finished it.
A fascinating book. Iraq is SO buggered up -- worse than we ever thought.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:29 PM
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6. I'm going to re-read portions of it.
His Epilogue was the most riveting part for me. If I had my copy handy, I'd post a few 'graphs. Hersh is a national treasure.
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