About shrubs disconnect from reality

[shraby]

where the war in Iraq is concerned. Granted, he just delivers the speeches, but someone writes them...Rove or Hughes probably. Are they as clueless as he is about what people are seeing is going on in Iraq? Are they crazy too? They can't possibly think people don't know things are extremely violent there and things are not getting better. What gives with these people?
It's a lie that is too big to be believed no matter how many times it's repeated. Have they all lost their minds?

[politicat]

1. self-perpetuated mythology?

The speech writers watch Faux and listen to the pundits at Freeperville and similar.... and so they feed off of each other?

It's the only "sane" explanation I can come up with. The insane ones range from tragic to horrifying.

Pcat

[the Kelly Gang]

2. Bush is clueless but the other's aren't..they just don't care

[darknesstolight]

3. Bush use Psyche operations on his own people

Bush says they use biological weapons in Iraq but he uses psychological operations on us/ the media campaign with swift vote and he started that before Texans for truth came around in response. He used them in Iraq psyche ops he uses them now on us. The election is propaganda with the commercials they have claims on food that have to be true but not in the presidential election. That Bill Snider on CNN doers it to and Novak is in on it. And don't question Bushes cousin in Foxx.I dare you to get a book on psyche ops if you can find it or brain washing. Here is how it works if you haven't noticed a statement is picked it is repeated until you believe it like hypnotism kinda. OK picture those kids in those religious schools or even AA they are called affirmations some can be positive or negative. Have you heard before tell a kid he is dumb enough and after a while he will believe it,thats the bush game beware...

[Ruffhowse]

4. Bush has the faux self confidence found in people that have attended

one too many self help and assertiveness training seminars. I used to see this type a lot in the late 70's, strutting around convinced by their own mind games that they could do no wrong and they were God's gift on earth. I remember one seminar, called est I believe, that was particularly good at creating these kind of characteristics in people, at least for a while. Bush must have his own assertiveness guru stashed somewhere in the White House. Either that or he was just born a prick.

[KT2000]

5. The goal is POWER and keeping it

everything else is manipulated to assure those goals. Confuse and obsfucate - then people don't know what to believe. Very uncomfortable so they throw out some slogans and make people feel superior because they hold the same values - patriotism.

[izzie]

7. I think you are right. It is power that counts only

Every ruler has had the yes men to feed the beast. This is not new at all. Even the people in this country put Nixon back in place and by the time he ran just about no one believed in him. I voted for him and had just about all the facts but I had always voted Republican and just kept saying it can not be true. I really started thinking about things after that. I really sat down and gave it some thought and found my base belief was really with the Dem party. I had a friend that did the same thing.I had been on the line for years but giving up the party my whole family had been with for years was hard. No I do not even know the GOP as it is very right from the GOP of my father's day and so is the Dem. party. I am really left of center of the Dem of today.

[KT2000]

16. The only way out

is for people to really critically think about things the way you did.

[DeepModem Mom]

6. louis c, posting in GD2004, proposes Bush's DENIAL as the theme...

of the rest of our campaign. It carries all kinds of connotations, without name-calling -- the poor man just can't, won't, see reality, and because of that our country suffers economically, and is engaged in a disastrous horror of a war.

[Skittles]

8. it is indeed pathetic, and quite scary

it's the way the GOP deals with reality: they simply pretend it doesn't exist. And why not? The sheep believe every other lie they have dished out.

[Jim__]

9. It's part of the Big Lie - they've largely discredited the media

So, a, lot of people automatically discredit what the media says. Then bring a puppet over from Iraq to repeat your lies - every day and in every way, things are getting better and better. And there are people who will believe them.

[annabanana]

14. but the media IS saying "every day in every way"

It has been completely co-opted

[htuttle]

10. I used to think it was merely cynical lies

But it's become pretty clear that the people in the White House have lost it -- they now believe their own bullshit.

I think it was Sy Hersch who recently remarked that he'd feel a lot better about things if he thought somebody was actually playing Kissenger-style Real Politik for Oil in the White House. Unfortunately, he's convinced that they are actually quite delusional in the White House, and too many of them actually believe their own propaganda.

[seabeyond]

11. they dont have to tell the truth. they dont care about lying

tis effective. they can say these things, then all there followers can say the same thing. and validate their vote for bush. they are looking for the validation to follow, not who would be the best leader.

this is what need to be challenged. how much do you know about kerry? flip flopper why?...........sound bite and that is your decision? then you suggest you care about troops as you turn your back on them, and dont bother to be informed?

[seabeyond]

12. this is their campaign. has always been

it is tough for people who arent these types of liars. we think about repercussion, we think about being found out. they do not care, so that gives them a freedom. we would be humiliated if someone called us on a lie. doesnt bother them. ergo.....liar without conscience

[Nordic]

13. they lie because it works

that's the bottom line.

It has worked in the past and it keeps on working.

[nostamj]

15. the political cartoonists are having a field day on this...

MORE TOONS!

[bloom]

17. "Have they all lost their minds?"

yes- in the brainwashed sense.

Apparently Rove and all studied Machiavelli. The art of political lying.

They have the media on board - they have people believing that the media is liberal (!) and it all works for them.

I think the letter (supposedly from a soldier -probably from Rove/Hughes) that Pachamamma posted sums up the lies very nicely, also.

And besides - it's what people want to believe. They want to believe that they live in a good country and we are the victims, yada yada yada...

[Disturbed]

18. Cult Mind

Study cults and the answer will be obvious.