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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:25 PM
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David Neiwert at Orcinus: "The Rise of Pseudo Fascism."
Are we nearing the crisis from which an American fascism will emerge? Neiwert has studied and written about the extremist right in America for many years. On his blog he has taken a reasoned, academic approach to the issue of fascism. He does not throw around the term lightly. He has posted two parts of a six-part series on the current conservative movement in America and its similarities to European fascism.

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The "conservative movement," in the course of this mutation, has become something entirely new, a fresh political entity quite unlike we've ever seen before in our history, but one that at the same time seems somehow familiar, as though we have seen something like it.

What's become clear as this election year has progressed -- and especially in the wake of the Republican National Convention -- is the actual shape of this fresh beast.

Call it Pseudo Fascism. Or, if you like, Fascism Lite. Happy-Face Fascism. Postmodern Fascism. But there is little doubt anymore why the shape of the "conservative movement" in the 21st century is so familiar and disturbing: Its architecture, its entire structure, has morphed into a not-so-faint hologram of 20th-century fascism.

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Without these facets, the current phenomenon cannot properly be labeled "fascism." But what is so deeply disturbing about the current state of the conservative movement is that it has otherwise plainly adopted not only many of the cosmetic traits of fascism, its larger architecture -- derived from its core impulses -- now almost exactly replicates that by which fascists came to power in Italy and Germany in the 1920s and '30s.

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But does all this add up to fascism?

Not in its fullest sense. But it does replicate, in nearly every regard, the architecture of fascism in its second stage of growth -- the stage at which, in the past, it has obtained power.

All that is needed for a full manifestation of American fascism, at this point, is for a genuine crisis of democracy to erupt. And if that occurs, it is almost inevitable that the differences between fascism and pseudo-fascism will vanish.
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This last paragraph of Part 1 is chilling. Could it be that the "crisis of democracy" might take place on November 2 with an unclear winner and numerous states in dispute? Imagine Florida 2000 multiplied exponentially. There will be a strong impulse by the rightwing repugs to consolidate their power and seize control--to "ensure stability" for the "good of the nation."

Could it be that the only thing worse than a bush win in November is no winner at all? Could it be that there are some on the right who are hoping for that very outcome?

Part 1: The Morphing of the Conservative Movement (scroll down)
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2004_09_19_dneiwert_archive.html

Part 2: The Architecture of Fascism
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/

Here's a link to a revised version of a series he did last year:

Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An exegesis
http://www.cursor.org/stories/fascismintroduction.php
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:35 PM
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1. Yes, it could be!
From what they have shown so far, I don't think it would be crazy to think they would try to adopt a military state if they thought there were any doubts they would lose power.

From their end of it, can you imagine what they must be thinking would happen when Kerry takes office? The investigations, acts of treason, war crimes, vast corruption, rigged elections indicting shrub's brother. the list goes on and on.

They will stop at nothing!
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rogerashton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:50 PM
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3. A military state?
I'm not sure the military would go along with that. One important difference -- in Germany and Italy there was no MILITARY tradition of civilian supremacy. Let's say that the Shrub were to lose the election and declare martial law in order to establish himself as dictator. Probably there are some officers in the military who would go along with it, some even with enthusiasm. But how many? I'm betting few enough to make it look a bit like the Kapp putsch. The military refuses illegitimate orders, the putsch collapses -- that's the last mistake the Shrub is allowed to make. If the proportion of officers willing to support such a putsch is greater, say 1/4-1/3, then we might see civil war -- a pretty terrible prospect, to be sure. More than half, and we would see a nasty, bloody officers' purge, a la Stalin. But I just don't think that many of our military officers are ready to chuck the constitution they have sworn to defend.

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:36 PM
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7. Tommy Franks has already spoke about it
this isn't a direct quote but he said something like "if we get hit with another major terrorist attack by-passing the Constitution for a military state is almost a sure thing".
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gold_bug Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 12:41 PM
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2. kick-
Neiwert has become one of my fave bloggers. This series is worth following.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:23 PM
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4. I think the analysis is wrong... it WON'T require a crisis
in democracy... for the same reason he is saying...

Our Fascism is DIFFERENT... We are one election away from becoming a one party fully-blown Fascist state...

:(
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:23 PM
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5. We absolutely cannot dismiss this --
I was just talking to a family member about election scenarios, and how each of us would react to various outcomes in the short run, and if/when we might have to be thinking longer-term about our future.
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Artemis Bunyon Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:30 PM
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6. Some of us have been saying this for years.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:13 PM
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8. kick.
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Michael Harrington Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 05:41 AM
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9. It's a brilliant piece.
Meticulously argued and all-too-convincing.

If that ever happens here, it'll be a seemingly benign, velvet glove version, with the outward appearance of democratic norms, much like Apartheid-era South Africa. While that place was an oppressive, racist state, it never ceased to be a republic, never had a dictator, and never had a junta. Just an extremely limited franchise and draconian anti-freedom, anti-equality laws.

I can't see the American people ever sitting still for an open Chilean style coup, but a gradual erosion of civil rights and civil liberties and a return to a more heirarchical, less open and democratic society, akin to what we had in the Gilded Age, is possible.
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 08:25 AM
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10. one last kick. It's too good to pass quietly into the ether.
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:53 PM
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11. another kick
:kick:
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