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Enrico Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:35 AM
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Republicans think we're Communists.
Lately in talking with my Republican co-worker I'm finding out that they think everything Democrats do is Fascist, which in turn is moving toward Communism. He seriously believes this.

What is this the 50's?! Is McCarthyism still effecting these morons?! Jesus, they are homophobic, and cultural-phobic.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:37 AM
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1. Yeah, Hitler hated commies, too.
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 10:40 AM by Cat Atomic
The neoconservative movement is fascist. There are plenty of examples that I won't bother outlining here.

I'd ask them for some specific items that make them think Democrats are communisits or fascists. When they can't provide any, tell them to shut the fuck up if all they can do is repeat bullshit that other idiots squawked at them.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:01 AM
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18. That's what I do all the time, and the answer is usually
"Sputter,sputter, but but but, they just ARE!!"

Sometimes one of the more astute halfwits will say "It was the National SOCIALIST Party!" to which I'll say the socialists were the second group of people Hitler hunted down and murdered, right after the communists. For this I get a blank look, and I suggest they read the book instead of just the title.

Honestly, this stuff is a real twit indicator, meaning the person hasn't bothered using any of his brain cells for years and has become little more than a parrot, shrieking out what's been shrieked at him by his AM radio and Pox News.

One of these days we'll just learn to laugh at them and walk away. They're too pigheadedly ignorant to bother with.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:38 AM
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2. I get it all of the time....
How they can connect the Democratic party with communism and facism is totally beyond me.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:38 AM
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3. I get the commie pinko lable all the time.
I don't mind either. I just tell them it means that I am unselfish. ;)


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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:39 AM
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4. Fuck 'em. Any time they engage me, I ask, "Which branch were you in?"
They say, "Huh?"

I say, "Which branch of the military did you serve in? You know, Marines, Army, what?"

I have NEVER personally met a hardcore neocon puke that has been in the military. Not saying they don't exist, but they are damned scarce.

So, once they FINALLY admit to never serving, I yell at them, "WELL FUCK YOU, YOU GODLESS TERRORIST-SYMPATHIZING PUKE!"

They generally don't have an answer for that one.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:39 AM
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5. Another moron argument
I'm a successful small business person and I'm certainly no Republican. The US Economy thrives when Democrats are in the White House.

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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:39 AM
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6. So which is it? We can't be both fascist AND communist.
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 10:40 AM by MallRat
"Fascism, which was not afraid to call itself reactionary... does not hesitate to call itself illiberal and anti-liberal."
- Benito Mussolini

Your co-worker is a stupid fuck. Go buy him a dictionary.

-MR
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:03 AM
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19. Many people confuse the two
due to the fact that the US played along with the Soviet Union and others when they called themselves communists when they were anything but communists. (Seems a lot like what the republicans do know, say their something when they are really the opposite as in :compassionate, pro-life, fiscally responsible...)
Our history books should be corrected and we should stop teaching that lie.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:41 AM
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7. I'm not surprised - when they have been convinced the media is liberal
and we are way more liberal than the media - so it figures we would be seen as way out there.
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:45 AM
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8. But, but, but...
I thought Communists were okay now that we're sending our entire manufacturing base over to communist China!!!
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quisp Donating Member (926 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:45 AM
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9. I know what you mean
it's so frustrating to have to continually define the terms so I just tell them that liberalism and socialism and communism are ALL DIFFERENT! Thus the necessity for thinking up different names for them, dumb@$$.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:50 AM
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10. They are as crazy as Nazis, and similar in thinking
Of course, he probably believes that Fascism is and always has been Leftist in nature.

This is Orwellian Madness on the order of 1 + 1 = 3, but then so were the Nazi calmunies against the Jews, which persist among a large number of people EVEN TODAY.

They are, in layman's terms, crazy as shithouse rats. Crazy as Nazis and the similarity is not coincidental.

Ask yourself this, how far is it from that kind of demonization rhetoric to standing by while atrocities are performed.

How far between the demonization rhetoric and PERFORMING the atrocities?

How far? One generation? One generation and a "terrorist attack"?

Who knows?

Unfortunately, we are likely to find out.
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Enrico Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:10 AM
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21. I am going to research Fascism
To see the points it makes and then address every one of them when morons like that make those statements... I thought the Mousolini quote was a good start ...
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:53 AM
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11. Wow. This guy needs to take a high school history course.
Fascism is strictly right wing.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:53 AM
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12. Republicans think Bush is a good, decent man
They think he is a man of God, they think he is a man of integrity, they think he is intelligent, they think he is good for America, they think he has our best interest in mind, they think he is keeping us safe.

So, I think it is safe to say:

Fuck them, who cares what they think.
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vivalarev Donating Member (503 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:53 AM
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13. Youre coworker is obviously an idiot...
tell her to go do a little research on exactly what constitutes fascism. there are about 16 major points to a fascist regime and ol georgie boy hit every single one of them
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:56 AM
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14. They are obsessed with COmmunism.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:58 AM
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15. They also think we're Nazis.
Nothing new here. They believe that Nazi Germany was the natural extension of Liberalism, one reason for the anger towards the Democratic Party.
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:59 AM
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16. Obviously part of the "paranoid strain in American politics"
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 11:02 AM by pse517
You can't change his mind, so why not just play on his paranoia and scare the living shit out of him into voting Democratic? Call hom "Comrade" and sing the Soviet national anthem when he walks by. Tell him when John Kerry is elected we're shipping his ass to a reeducation camp in San Francisco unless he gets with the program and votes Democratic right now. I'm assuming from the Tigers avatar you are also from MI. When a strange person comes to your work, tell him they are one of Gov. Granholm's "agents" and that you can only protect him for so long unless he comes around. Within a week or so that poor frightened bastard will have a picture of Hillary Clinton on his dining room wall.

And if by some slim chance he is not that paranoid, just maybe your mockery will shame him into making some better non-bullshit label arguments when you talk politics.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:00 AM
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17. tell dumb ass
that he is supplying the commies with alot of his american greenbacks to finance their quest on world domination. ask him to check the labels on his next purchases-any made in china????
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:08 AM
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20. woman behind the counter in the local convenience store
said Kerry was a communist. I don't know where this is coming from. It is not worth arguing with ignorant people like this.
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freestyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:21 AM
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22. It's because they don't read or think critically.
If they read Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, they would see that communism and fascism are quite different, and that what went on in the Soviet Union and in China had very little to do with Communism. Of course, reading that stuff now would probably get you on some watch list. Getting familiar with different ideologies, even tragically wrong ones, used to be called education.
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:25 AM
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23. It's just the mud they sling.....
because they really can't think of any legitimate reasons to to back bush!




Peace
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mad_hatter Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 11:37 AM
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24. I'll tell you why they think that.
It's the same stupid argument I get from them every time. "Democrats favor a large federal government." Even though the majority of this "large federal government" comes in the form of aid to keep this country afloat during our economic down turns. It's been twisted by wealthy elitist's into a form of government control. It's a distortion presented by the rich to the masses. Unfortunately we have a large number of gullible individuals who then begin quoting this crap. They have no idea what communism is, but Limbaugh, Coulter, and Savage claim that is it's so, so it must be. Idiots all.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 12:11 PM
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25. They think anything to the left of Atilla the Hun is communist (nt)
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