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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:23 AM
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Bush/Cheney White House "Busted" Over Sept 11th Claims
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 01:27 AM by DanSpillane
See especially, link on website to NEW FULL GRAPHIC of "MONEY TRAIL TO WHITE HOUSE"

September 11th Money Trail Leads to White House
By Dan Spillane and Audrey Mantey, The Liberty Whistle
-At least five normally independent indicators moved in sync after Bush warned
-On Sept. 10th, instead of US citizens getting a warning, Halliburton got a contract

(UPDATE includes new comprehensive graphic--see link below.)

(SEATTLE) 09/30/04 - A series of new findings brings into doubt Bush Administration claims regarding September 11th, and shows the work of the 9-11 Commission is incomplete. According to what Bush told the public, and as documented in the 9-11 report, an August 6th 2001 memo delivered to the White House warned of imminent attacks (“Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US”)--but was described as “historical in nature,” and thus was essentially ignored by the White House. (1) Therefore, as far as the public knows, no actions were taken based on the memo.

It’s not as if the US hasn’t been looking for unusual pre-9-11 actions. In fact, the official 9-11 report examined stock trading before the attacks, and concluded with some degree of confidence that there weren’t profits taken based on information before the attacks. Unfortunately, the 9-11 report provides no details on how such analysis was done--and importantly, the report makes no mention of analyzing events in terms of the August 6th White House memo. In short, the 9-11 commission tried to find “needles in haystacks.”

Indeed, then it should be of no surprise that a comparison of trading specifically before and after August 6th, in terms of a number of normally independent indicators reveals more information, and illustrates an interesting and hitherto undiscovered convergence around the August 6th date. Incredibly, in this light, a major shift is visible in both market indicators, and in business announcements subsequent to the supposedly “ignored” warning memo.

Take for example, the stock of Halliburton Corporation, known so well for its association with US Vice President Dick Cheney. It plummeted on high volume immediately after the memo--previously having closely followed its own sector up until August 6th. Moreover, this divergence was punctuated not only by the date of August 6th, but was also underscored by a September 10th 2001 contract award to Halliburton. Astonishingly, on September 10th, 2001, the news read “Halliburton Unit Picked to Participate in Program to Reduce Threat of Weapons Of Mass Destruction.” (Source: Halliburton)

Click here to read about Sep 10, 2001 Halliburton WMD project award

But the September 11th “clairvoyance” didn’t stop at Halliburton. After the memo, signs began bleeding into the stock market at large. The stock market volatility index (the “VIX”), a measure of market fear, suddenly shot up after the August 6th memo. By September 10th 2001, the VIX index sharply spiked up forty-five percent--to a level in line with the Asian financial crisis. Yet, in the Asian crisis case, news of disaster was already out in the open, which contrasts sharply with environment of September 10th, 2001--when bad news wasn’t out. Remarkably, then, it’s fair to conclude certain stock market investors knew a crisis was going to happen--the day before. In effect, the VIX, while normally independent of Halliburton stock, suddenly moved in lockstep with Halliburton.

Next, in line with the spike in the VIX, yet another indicator foretold September 11th. The put/call stock options ratio--a measure of sophisticated investors betting on a market fall--peaked twice, to a level over one. First, the ratio peaked for the very options transition period immediately after the White House memo, and before September 11th (which crested on August 17th) and next, it peaked on September 10th, the day before the strike. Once again, the put/call ratio moves correspond with Halliburton steps and the August 6th and September 10th dates. Finally, at least one close associate of Mr. Cheney made a business move on September 10th.

What’s incredible is how many signs point to the fact that the White House knew about September 11th in advance, and leaked. Clearly, not one but at least five pieces of evidence exist. The evidence of the unusual stock pattern of Halliburton after the White House warning memo, the special advance timing of the Halliburton WMD contract, the VIX and put/call indicators, and more, showed the White House leaked the September 11th warning to a select few. But alas, no real actions were taken to defend the American people. No, instead, actions were taken to defend Halliburton stockholders and a select few, and further, to enhance their profits.

The simplified charts below show how Halliburton stock turned on high volume when the memo hit the White House; the memo is illustrated by the line bisecting the graphs.

A comprehensive graph is shown, illustrating all the patterns converging around the August 6th memo.

Click here for LARGE CHART showing MONEY TRAIL TO WHITE HOUSE

Footnotes: 1) “The President told us the August 6 report was historical in nature.” (9-11 report, chapter 8)

(Dan Spillane is a computer scientist living in Seattle, Washington, who also studies economics, pure science, and politics. Working with Bev Harris in 2002 and early 2003, he exposed problems related to electronic voting systems certification and Diebold; this set the stage for discussion of the issue at the national level.)

(Audrey Mantey is an instructor at an arts academy in Michigan. She worked in US military intelligence/counterintelligence for over a decade.)
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:37 AM
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1. No comments yet...only paralysis n/t
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:45 AM
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2. bookmarking to read Thursday
....thanks for posting.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:48 AM
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3. Not exacly light reading for bedtime...nightmares???
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 01:53 AM by DanSpillane
Poor Bush and Cheney. Maybe they will be awoken from their beauty sleep early.

Don't miss the new chart linked into the site--
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 04:27 AM
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4. shivers
I wouldn't have thought to look at events like this in retrospect. My hat's off to the people who thought of this.

Very impressive.


Cher

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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:20 AM
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7. Thanks, actually...looking in all the right places

Make sure you look at the new graphic link
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:04 AM
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5. Link?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:18 AM
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6. Link--Is it too small at the bottom?
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 08:30 AM by DanSpillane

www.libertywhistle.us

WWW
dot
LIBERTYWHISTLE
dot
US
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:24 PM
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19. THE LINK IS
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 10:28 PM by DanSpillane
The link comes and goes due to a problem with DU...

Click here:

www.libertywhistle.us
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:45 AM
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24. That graphic is extremely damning, IMHO. Great work! Kick big-time!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:47 AM
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25. We're doing more research--that is only the first verison
Keep checking back at the site. This is a developing story. I just talked to someone in the newspaper yesterday.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:21 AM
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8. Kick!
:kick: A good read!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:27 AM
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9. MAKE SURE TO VIEW THE GRAPHIC--
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 08:32 AM
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10. Kick this Graphic into the NY TImes--
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 08:43 AM by DanSpillane
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:12 AM
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11. kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:53 PM
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31. Graphic UPDATED -- more to come! n/t
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:15 PM
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32. Graphic UPDATED -- new "figure 8 money pattern" identified
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 01:18 PM by DanSpillane
See smaller graph below connected in context. Notice especially "figure 8 money pattern, with September 11th at the center"...

Cool, eh? This shows the money bets on September 11th picked up a few days before--and cashed in a few days after.

This is CLEAR PROOF of this action.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:30 PM
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33. kick the depressed texas-toad out of office
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 01:31 PM by DanSpillane
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:02 AM
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12. WOW - Amazing - thanks so much!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 11:58 AM
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13. Kick thanks!
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:57 PM
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14. kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:35 PM
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15. Will Bush talk about what really happened here tonite at the debate?
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 04:03 PM by DanSpillane
With his friends making money, and Americans dying?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 04:42 PM
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16. kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 07:57 PM
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17. kick
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 09:41 PM
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18. Bush was a "depressed toad sucking a lemon" in the debate
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:49 PM
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20. kick the depressed toad out of office
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 10:59 PM
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21. Hmmmm.......As far as I'm concerned the evidence is stacked mile high!
And Do y'all remember that famous interview with Allen King
and Rumsfeld. He admitted telling all in the meeting at the Pentagon that the US was gonna be hit soon.

Hmmmmm....what a psychic he was.(sarc)
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:29 AM
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22. Really--
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 06:34 AM by DanSpillane
Then it was THEM in the Pentagon who made money off the sequence I described?

Details of this interaction????

Wasn't Admiral Poindexter also booted for suggesting making a formal market in terrorism futures after this ordeal. You don't think...
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 06:37 AM
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23.  August 1, 2003 Poindexter Will Be Quitting Over Terrorism Betting Plan
Poindexter Will Be Quitting Over Terrorism Betting Plan
By Eric Schmitt
The New York Times
August 1, 2003

WASHINGTON, July 31 — The official who oversaw a plan for the Pentagon to run a terrorist futures-trading market is resigning under pressure, a senior Defense Department official said today.


John M. Poindexter, a retired rear admiral who was President Ronald Reagan's national security adviser, is stepping down "within a few weeks," the defense official said, after the disclosure of a proposal that outraged lawmakers and embarrassed senior Pentagon officials. The plan was to create an online trading parlor that would have rewarded investors who forecast terrorist attacks, assassinations and coups.


Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld did not personally fire Admiral Poindexter, but the defense official said that Mr. Rumsfeld agreed that the admiral had become too much of a political lightning rod and that it was time for him to go.

http://foi.missouri.edu/totalinfoaware/pquits.html
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RedEagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 01:57 PM
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34. Geeez Dan.....
....did they use taxpayer money to create a system to track when to invest......but left citizens out of the loop?

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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 07:56 AM
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26. This effort clearly shows without any doubt whatsoever
that the administration knew and acted on the information provided by the August 6, 2001 briefing. However, the actions they took had nothing to do with preventing the attack. The action taken consisted of profiting in the various financial markets with advanced knowledge of the impending disaster.

Now couple this information with comments made by Dr. Rice concerning the administrations intension's to not follow the Clinton's procedures for preventing disasters. Specifically she has been on record as stating in so many words George Bush's plan was to "not swat flies" then we have clear proof that this administration did indeed "let it happen on purpose".

This plan they implemented for dealing with terrorism constitutes, in my opinion, treason against the people of the USA. To knowingly ignore and also profit on the suffering of those people killed and their survivors is criminal. They do not belong in positions of trust and power, they belong in jail.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:10 PM
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27. We will be making a petition on this matter soon.

Well said.

"Treason"
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 09:57 PM
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28. Did anyone else hear * say "Pre-Sept.10 mentality" last night????
I thought it odd, and began a discussion thread here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=941969&mesg_id=941969


not much response, but now I'm wondering if there's a LOT more going on here...

so, is it MIHOP or LIHOP?

:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:23 PM
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29. went over my head at this point, so......
:kick: this sucker for those who still have brain cells intact.....

Kanary
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 11:41 PM
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30. Listening to Bush last night could kill brain cells
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 03:05 PM
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37. In plain English
I know we put a lot of information on the chart, and if you are't well versed in stock market lingo, it might seem overwhelming.

But the basic thing you are looking at is that right after the Aug 6 memo - the memo that the white house said was not a big deal, just historical information - there was a huge spike of people betting that the stock market would plummet.

It doesn't match any regular patterns of trading.

And right at the point where the White House got the memo, Aug 6, Halliburton stock had a huge spike in volume, for no explanable reason.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 03:09 PM
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38. MEDIA -- I'm willing to do a radio spot explaining this
Anyone interested in carrying this piece, we can point them at the graph, and explain it on the radio.

Print media, also.

Contact

DanSLegal@aol.com
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:31 PM
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51. isn't there some way to find out exactly who bought those Put options?
Are you thinking it was people in the pentagon?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:40 PM
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61. What we need is a public release of the information...
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 10:44 PM by DanSpillane
So it can be correlated with the new findings concerning the period 08/06 thru 09/10.

This needs to be done before the election, to protect the public, so we don't end up re-electing criminals (potentially, the crime of treason is involved).

It appears, at least there are several threads which point to a leak to/thru Halliburton, and some big-money players. Pentagon? White House? CIA? Saudi Arabia?

Time will tell. But I think it is best resolved before, and not after, the election, with the oversight of citizens.

In short, can't have an open question of treason before the election...no?
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:19 PM
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35. Can we get this to Edwards for the debate on Tuesday???
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 02:55 PM
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36. A one-liner for the Edwards debate--
Edited on Sat Oct-02-04 03:14 PM by DanSpillane
"Bush and Cheney's idea of protecting the US from terrorist attacks amounts to giving Halliburton a contract on September 10th, and letting thousands of Americans die the next day."

Of this, there is no question...
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 08:47 PM
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39. kick more butt in the debates
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:45 PM
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40. He's gonna make mince meat with Cheney I think.
Cheney's gonna go negative right away, and Edwards won't let him get away with anything.


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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:36 PM
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41. I am going to
:kick: this
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:41 AM
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42. Eooooooooooorrrrrrrrrr!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 11:14 AM
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43. Those sirens hurt your ears?
I have passed your link around to a lot of people.

Let's see if it spreads.

This is spreading in Ky, Senator Jim Bunning (R) has Alzheimer's. (he has been acting very weird, his handlers will not let people see him or ask him questions.)
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:38 PM
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44. That's the perfect Senator--
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 12:38 PM by DanSpillane
They can prop him up in front of cameras--and whoever pays the most to move his mouth, wins!

I like you.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:00 PM
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45. He's more like the B movie political
puppet. Yes, he is having his strings pulled by the neo cons, but it appears that he is having difficulty somewhere. Maybe one of the strings is tangled.

He has only agreed to one debate. It will be held in the afternoon, on one TV channel, no audience in the studio, and his Dem Challenger Dr Dan Mangiardo cannot use any clips in his ads. http://www.drdan2004.com/site/PageServer
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 01:37 PM
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46. Hal % Short Interest graph 1 decade
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:05 PM
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47. WHOA!!!! I zoomed in, and those are the EXACT dates in my study!
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 02:14 PM by DanSpillane
The SPIKE in short interest in Halliburton came after the August 6th memo, and before September 11th. AND there is no other spike like that!

This CONFIRMS my study!

http://chart.bigcharts.com/custom/fool/big.chart?sid=2303&time=4yr&freq=1wk&compidx=aaaaa%7E0&ma=0&maval=60&uf=0&lf=1073741824&type=128&mocktick=1&country=US&doChartIV=0&style=1785&size1&symb=hal&rand=7582
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 02:15 PM
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48. kick more butt in the debates
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:02 PM
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49. Here's a four year
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:16 PM
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50. HELP! What I need is the RAW data for daily short interest--
For BOTH Halliburton, and the overall NYSE
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 04:57 PM
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54. ANYONE! ALSO NEED
Short interest numbers for GENERAL MOTORS

over this date period
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 05:21 PM
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55. that's above my ability.
good luck
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 05:54 PM
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56. Thanks! Any wall street types out there, pitch in!
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:36 PM
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52. I am not good at reading charts, however
Is that flurry of activity between 98 and 99 during the Clinton Impeachment? It looks like that paid off for some people.
But more dramatically that sudden spike in 2001 indicates people knew exactly when and what type of stock would plummet. Weren't the put options mainly on the two airlines involved in the highjacking?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 03:41 PM
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53. What we are looking at is in addition to airline puts
And related to the period after the august 6th memo.
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Classic Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 05:58 PM
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57. How come
Dan Rather and the rest of the honest media hasn't reported this?
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 07:36 PM
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58. No one has taken a comprehensive look at events leading up to the 11th
Using the approach I did.

No one reported on the September 10th contract Halliburton got.

No one reported on the VIX movements.

There were a few stories on airline puts right before the 11th, and that was it

Shrug!
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Classic Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 07:44 PM
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59. No offense
but I have a hard time believing that you and your internet sources are better, and more credible than actual news journalists from CBS. Realize this is the internet age and one can find any viewpoint he wants. I could google Bush as a hero on 9-11 and find something to back it. I could google Bush's conspiracy on 9-11 and find eveidence..

So you see why it is hard for me to believe every conspiracy theory I see on the internet. Lets face it CBS has access to the internet. I hold information more true when it comes from a source that can be held accountable for reporting it. That is my take on random rumors on the internet.
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 10:18 PM
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60. It has nothing at all to do with 'viewpoints'
Edited on Sun Oct-03-04 10:24 PM by DanSpillane
It's a matter of approach to analyzing and presenting data and applying forensics.

An approach is independent of sources, Internet or otherwise. The September 11th report in fact doesn't outline any type of scientific methodology used in their analysis related to securities markets.

For the most part, news journalists do not analyze nor use any type of approach, other than reporting what they are told.

And I don't think you could offend me, because your criticism is based on assumptions about third parties (the media) based largely on perceptions of credibility, rather than methodology.

And in fact, their were no detailed reports concerning this matter in the media, whatsoever.
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62. Kick! N/M
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