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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:01 PM
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Stop being afraid to use the F-word
Fascism

If the unthinkable happens and the chimp refuses to give up the residency, we have to pound this word until it becomes a keyword in the media. Do not let up.

Personally, I've become increasingly concerned about the anti-intellectualism that is sweeping this country. Now, the CIA is being accused of "guessing" and of being "anti-Bush," never mind that they actually have the information to form their opinions of his handling of the war.

This site offers a rebuttal to those who back off from using it because it "trivializes the holocaust" (as if Nazi's were the only fascists...)

http://keywords.oxus.net/archives/000026.html

I'm posting the list of qualities of a fascist society...I hope this doesn't violate the copyright rules of the site. If so, mods, let me know and I'll edit:

1. The cult of tradition (syncretistism).

Truth has been already spelled out once and for all, and we can only keep interpreting its obscure message.

2. Rejection of modernism.

… even though Nazism was proud of its industrial achievements, its praise of modernism was only the surface of an ideology based upon Blood and Earth … The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity.

3. Action for action's sake.

Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.

4. Anti-intellectualism (Rejection of "analytical criticism").

…disagreement is treason.

5. Fear of difference.

…Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.

6. Appeal to a frustrated middle class.

Ur-Fascism derives from individual or social frustration.

7. Nationalism.

The followers must feel besieged. The easiest way to solve the plot is the appeal to xenophobia. But the plot must also come from the inside…

8. Mythologizing the enemies.

The followers must feel humiliated by the ostentatious wealth and force of their enemies. … Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.

9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy.

… life is permanent warfare. This, however, brings about an Armageddon complex. Since enemies have to be defeated, there must be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the world. But such a "final solution" implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts the principle of permanent war.

10. Popular elitism.

… Since the group is hierarchically organized (according to a military model), every subordinate leader despises his own underlings, and each of them despises his inferiors. This reinforces the sense of mass elitism.

11. Everybody is educated to become a hero.

This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.

12. Machismo.

…which implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits…

13. Qualitative populism.

Individuals as individuals have no rights, and the People is conceived as a quality, a monolithic entity expressing the Common Will. Since no large quantity of human beings can have a common will, the Leader pretends to be their interpreter. Having lost their power of delegation, citizens do not act; they are only called on to play the role of the People. Thus the People is only a theatrical fiction.

14. Newspeak

Newspeak was invented by Orwell, in 1984, as the official language of Ingsoc, English Socialism. … But we must be ready to identify other kinds of Newspeak, even if they take the apparently innocent form of a popular talk show.
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Search Party Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:07 PM
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1. I think *'s whole crew are "Fundamentalist Fascists"
great post. people freak when this word is tossed out, but a bit of explaining and one can watch the bulb ignite.:think:
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:37 PM
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7. For some reason, liberal/left commentators are discouraged
from using the word because it doesn't seem to be worthy of "serious" conversation. Which is exactly why they (the right) are allowed to get away with it.

I always find it bizarre when the right accuses liberal activists of being fascists or nazis (feminazi). Just proves what a profound misunderstanding there is of the term and philosophy.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:09 PM
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2. I'm not afraid to use it.
Although I am partial to "neo-fascist". Just seems to go with the current vernacular.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:12 PM
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3. I'm not afraid to use it -- more info and links
Great article to add to my "collection" --


"fas-cism (fbsh'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

Mussolini in his own words.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2413173

1944: American fascism (April 1944 article in NYTimes -- also see 1940s section for the complete article)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=212387

The F Scale
(Measures one's authoritarian personality profile, which makes one receptive to fascism, based on research done after WW2)
http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm
link posted here: He's Acting Like Nixon in the Final DaysHas Bush Gone Over the Edge? (has some good links re fascist personality, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1725171

Fascism Anyone? by Laurence W. Britt
http://secularhumanism.org/library/fi/britt_23_2.htm


Bethune Institute Anti-Fascist Studies
http://bethuneinstitute.org/index2.html

The Spectre of Friendly Fascism by Bertrand Gross
(book excerpt)
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Specter_FriendlyFascism_FF.html


Umberto Eco on Fascism
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html


What Is Fascism
(This one is quite good and incl. two-tiered legal system as well as many other hallmarks, and Dr. Lawrence Britt's list, and additional links)
http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATURES/Politics/Structure3.htm

Superpower Democracy (another must read)
http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/2003_07_01_gd.html#105880160504381723


IS AMERICA BECOMING FASCIST?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2159330
This article: IS AMERICA BECOMING FASCIST? http://www.crisispapers.org/topics/fascism.htm

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Some Book Recommendations:
barb1622000 (1000+ posts) Sun Sep-19-04 01:32 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2367949&mesg_id=2369563&page=
29. there are several books
and I don't know if they are still in print but they are probably at university libraries

1. International Relations Between the Two World Wars 1919-1939 by E. H. Carr, Harper & Row, 1947
2. The Crisis of German Ideology by George Mosse
3. The German Catastrophe by Friedrich Meinecke
4. Varieties of Fascism by Eugen Weber

I think the world was quite stunned when Hitler became more powerful and then finally became Chancellor in the mid 1930s. They simply didn't know what to do about it. National socialism was going on in several countries at the same time, including the USA during the time and check the fourth book for an outstanding exposition of the various forms by country.
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http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History
by Thom Hartmann
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

The NASCAR Nazi
Bush is creating an un-American America
http://www.ocweekly.com/ink/04/38/lost-washburn.php

It's time for another Bush/Nazis thread (Aug. 03)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=199853#199877

Nazification of America Phase 3
http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step3.htm

The Reichstag Fire and 9/11; Pretexts for Dictatorship and the Fourth Reich
Includes: Parallels between the Third Reich and the Bush Regime; 9/11 and the Reichstag Fire; What was the Reichstag Fire; Nazis in America; Poland 1939, Iraq 2003 http://www.oilempire.us/reichstag-fire.html

The Rise of the Fourth Reich
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/reich.html

Bush's 9/11 Reichstag Fire by Harvey Wasserman
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0913-03.htm


20 Comparisons by Barrie Zwicker
http://www.deceptiondollar.com/news/BloorRemarks911-03.htm


The Bush Plan for America: The Rise of an American National Security State
By Jennifer Van Bergen, 14 December 2003 http://www.ftaaimc.org/en/2003/12/3232.shtml

Bush is *not* Hitler!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1868574


What Is Fascism
(This one is quite good and incl. two-tiered legal system as well as many other hallmarks, and Dr. Lawrence Britt's list, and additional links)
http://www.couplescompany.com/FEATURES/Politics/Structure3.htm

Superpower Democracy (another must read)
http://www.greaterdemocracy.org/2003_07_01_gd.html#105880160504381723

America, We Have a Problem
http://www.moderateindependent.com/v2i4dodd.htm

They Thought They Were Free
http://www.thirdreich.net/Thought_They_Were_Free_nn4.html

Fascism and America Today
by Aldo Vidali
http://www.apj.us/20010312fascism.html

This is the Fight of Our Lives by Bill Moyers
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0616-09.htm

I'm scared - I've got a mail, sounds real!!!!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1822699#1822720

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SYMBOLISM:
You know why Operation "Iron Hammer" sounds Nazi like?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=709776#710186
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:25 PM
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4. Thanks for the post! How many people really KNOW what fascism is?
I bet there are LOTS of people who have heard the word, and know it's bad, but if you asked them what it is, they wouldn't know!!!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 04:44 PM
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9. If you haven't, find a copy of "Libery Bound" to view.
Christine Rose explains the actual concept of the government and corporations being intertwined.

We need to make sure more people begin making this connection and seeing this film.

FSC
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Kid_A Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:30 PM
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5. I've never been afraid to call Bush a fascist.
For the same reason that I've never been afraid to say bananas are yellow.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 12:36 PM
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6. Alot of people think fascism means concentration camps.
I tell people that Bush is a fascist all the time. One of the most common replies is something along the lines of "he's not putting Jews in camps". People really are brainwashed these days.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:29 PM
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8. I AM SICK OF THESE FASCIST F***S
THAR YA GO.
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