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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:32 PM
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"Dozens of Children Slain as Soldiers Hand Out Candy"
This can't be good for Iraqi morale...these kind of headlines...


http://www.nbc5.com/news/3772108/detail.html??z=dp&dpswid=1167317&dppid=65192
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:34 PM
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1. who cares about the Iraqi morale?
I mean could it get much lower?

Arghhhhhhhhhhh

:mad:
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:36 PM
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4. I was being sarcastic...
The fact that this was a photo-op which turned deadly says it all...they bribed the kids with candy so they'd have their "rosy pic" for Bush... It's just so sad...
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:50 AM
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25. So was I
(being sarcastic, that is)
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:35 PM
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2. It's a fucking war zone, NOT Disneyland
We have no business luring children out into it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:36 PM
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3. I'm sure the soldiers meant well.....
either that or they were being set up for a Karl Rove photo-op moment. In any case, they should stay away from the Iraqi kids as much as possible for exactly this reason, making them a target. Very sad.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:47 PM
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13. I'm sure about the KKKarl Rover part
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 01:48 PM by Southpaw Bookworm
But don't you think the soliders might have known this activity could be a tad dangerous? Could they might have been deliberately negligent here, especially if they're the sort who went to Iraq so they could kill themselves some Ay-rabs?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:51 PM
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14. Who knows what mixed signals the soldiers are getting
It wouldn't surprise me at all that they are told "We're winning, everything is improving, now get out there soldier and hand out candy and look happy about it, that's an ORDER!"
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:38 PM
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5. This shows how out of touch the Republicans truly are:
Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, of Georgia, said that Thursday's bombings are a sign that the United States is winning the war in Iraq.


:wtf:
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:40 PM
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8. Please let Bush say that tonight
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:39 PM
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6. Read this quote and tell me this mofo is not evil....
"Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, of Georgia, said that Thursday's bombings are a sign that the United States is winning the war in Iraq. He told CNN that if the United States weren't winning the war, the insurgents wouldn't be carrying out attacks like these."
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:42 PM
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9. War is peace
Ignorance is strength
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:43 PM
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10. I saw him utter this--
it was startling, becasue this is a return to the THOROUGHLY DISCREDITED AND SILLY talking point they tried to push earlier this year!

Guess Sax didn't get the memo...
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:40 PM
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7. but we are winning, the repubs say so....
Edited on Thu Sep-30-04 01:41 PM by kmlewis
"Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, of Georgia, said that Thursday's bombings are a sign that the United States is winning the war in Iraq. He told CNN that if the United States weren't winning the war, the insurgents wouldn't be carrying out attacks like these."

That crap makes me sick.
:puke:

on edit: oops. i guess i was too slow with this snip.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:44 PM
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11. From the article ...

"Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, of Georgia, said that Thursday's bombings are a sign that the United States is winning the war in Iraq. He told CNN that if the United States weren't winning the war, the insurgents wouldn't be carrying out attacks like these."

He can't really be that stupid, can he ?

That's how THEY try to win the war.

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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 01:45 PM
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12. "Mission Accomplished!" "Bring it on!!"
It's such a noble cause, blood for oil. We're there to help the Iraqis.

To do what? Construct better morgues and graveyards?
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lawladyprof Donating Member (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:03 PM
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15. But where were the pictures of children hurt in US attacks
Seeing pictures of children wounded by insurgent bombing but many children have been wounded/maimed or killed by the actions of US troops and their pictures did not appear on CNN. Very unbalanced. Now, of course, photographs of hurt children are needed to demonize our "enemies" rather than to explain where their animosity was arising from.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:30 PM
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21. Life is confusing sometimes...
.. your heart goes out to the children who were killed and hurt today, and the military personnel that were there for this.... BUT you're right, we killed thousands of innocent Iraqis through impersonal bombs.. and no tears were shed by mainstream America over this.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:54 AM
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26. Yeah ... we have to see "F-9/11" or "Control Room" to see
pictures of what our war has wrought.
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TexasBushwhacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:08 PM
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16. That is so fucking sick
It looks like the bombing was going to take place anyway. The article says they were celebrating the opening of a new sewage system.

I know that hindsight is 20/20, but everyong seems to want to agree that Sadaam was a bad guy and therefore taking him out was a good thing. But did anyone speculate the different scenarios of the aftermath, like CIVIL WAR? Are the Sunis and the Shiites capable of working together in a democracy?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:20 PM
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18. well, they're certainly capable of working together in an insurgency.
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:12 PM
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17. look. Soldiers don't hand out candy for a photo op. They do it because
they like children and miss the ones from home. Their siblings, their own children, nephews and nieces. They know that the kids don't have access to sweets much and it's a way of both "mending fences" and of being part of the community.

While I don't want our troops in Iraq any more than anyone else does, they are there at the moment and they are, whether they like it or not, part of the community. It's better that they try to be good neighbors instead of bad ones.

Military personnel are PEOPLE first and foremost. They have hearts and minds and they hurt just as much as anyone else when they see the innocent and blameless harmed. Don't you dare intimate that they're less than that.

Politicat
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:28 PM
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20. The soldiers that were involved must be heartsick right now...
.. I can't even imagine what they must feel right now, after being involved in that. I feel for the military, the children, and their families. What a horrid scene.

Just because I want Bush out on his ass in the elections, does not mean that I want Iraq to continue to be a hellhole of death.. I really want the infrastructure to be repaired, and life to return to normal for these people.

The article didn't mention this.. but the REASON the school year hadn't started, is that it is postponed because it is not safe.

I think the choice to draw kids to such a public event was probably a bad one, considering the violence there at any type of public gathering. The ceremony was a terrible mistake...
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 03:05 PM
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23. I hope they learned their lesson.
I know that they want to help these kids and bring some small measure of joy to them but you have got to realize that by doing this they are putting those kids in awful danger.

It's a stupid practice no matter how good it makes the kids or soldiers feel.
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Gwerlain Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 04:21 PM
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24. No kidding.
I have to say that despite being a real anti-war kind of guy, I was not pleased either to hear someone insinuate that the soldiers were handing out candy to get the kids hurt. Such rhetoric does not further the cause; in fact, it is exactly the tactics that are being used by the Reprehensibles in the first place. Do we really want to smell like them?
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:24 PM
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19. The absolute stupidest, most partisan comment.. ever.
In that story lies the asbolute most ridiculous, pandering, hideous partisan doublespeak of all time:

<<Republican Sen. Saxby Chambliss, of Georgia, said that Thursday's bombings are a sign that the United States is winning the war in Iraq. He told CNN that if the United States weren't winning the war, the insurgents wouldn't be carrying out attacks like these.>>

I'm nominating that asshole for Top 10 Conservative Idiots this week. I'm speechless.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-30-04 02:32 PM
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22. i second that nomination
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