This afternoon, I berated the crap out of a right-wing douche bag.

[NightTrain]

I still can't believe I goaded that guy the way I did, but I was too pissed off to give a fuck about the possible consequences.

I was out on my delivery route today when a pick-up truck came up on my left. As it went by me, I saw the most sickening collection of bumper stickers ever to attack my eyeballs. Here are the ones I remember:

G.O.P. - GOD'S OWN PARTY.

PRESIDENT BUSH 2004: ONE GOOD TERM DESERVES ANOTHER.

GUN CONTROL MEANS USING BOTH HANDS. (Second time this week I've seen that one!)

THE ROAD TO HELL IS PACED WITH LIBERALS.

CLINTON DIDN'T INHALE: HE SUCKS.

I'D RATHER BE KILLING DEMOCRATS.

But what really set me off was what that douche bag wrote in his back window in white crayon:

KERRY LIED AND REAL VETS DIED!

When we stopped at a red light, I pulled up next to the guy, who had his windows rolled down, and yelled, "LOSER!"

To my amazement, he didn't reply. You'd think a fella with bumper stickers that inflammatory would jump at the chance to defend his most cherished beliefs against a got-damn librul, but not that gutless turd.

When the light turned green, Mr. Blood-and-Guts Republican gunned his accelerator and blew past me. I gave him the finger as he did so.

The road narrowed, so I got behind that fuckwad at the next red light. I stuck my head out the window and shouted, "HEY MOTHERFUCKER, I'M A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT! YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH ME?"

Again, he didn't reply. He didn't so much as give me the finger, even with his left arm hanging out his driver's-side window.

I tried again. "YEAH, YOU AIN'T SHIT WITHOUT YOUR GUN, ARE YOU, JOHN WAYNE? HOW FUCKIN' CLOSE HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO A WAR, YOU PUSSY?"

Finally, I got behind him at one final stoplight before I had to turn onto a side street. I stuck my head out the window again and yelled, "PRESIDENT KERRY, YOU ASSHOLE!"

I wonder what it would've taken to set that fucker off? Hell, he probably dealt with my little dressing-down by going home and beating up on "The Little Woman." Piece of shit.

[MsUnderstood]

1. What if

It was really his wife's car? Wouldn't you feel bad then?

[NightTrain]

6. Oh, please!

Get real, fer chrissake.

[calimary]

75. If it was his wife's car, it means one of two things:

Either he married someone who feels exactly like he does, or he doesn't mind, ONE BIT, climbing behind the wheel of a car that carries that hatred all over its bumpers.

A little over the top, but I LOVED EVERY CAPITAL LETTER OF IT!

Sorry. It's not "turn the other cheek." It's probably not what Jesus would do or what Jenna would drink. But DAMMIT, these pigdogs have had the last word for FAR TOO LONG, and look how far down into the drain they've taken it. If this bad behavior were checked, earlier, or true, freedom-loving Americans had not allowed it to spiral out of control all over our country, this asshole wouldn't be able to drive around with such venom on display.

What you said are all things that, give or take a little language and volume, NEED TO BE SAID. STRAIGHT BACK IN THEIR FACES.

They do it because nobody's MAKING THEM stop. Just like a kid will pick his/her nose and eat it, write on the walls, snatch some other kid's toys, or leave wrappers all over the playground UNLESS he/she IS TOLD NOT TO. And then, if that fails, MADE TO STOP. Poor upbringing, poor training. Not just poor, negligent. Maybe just plain nonexistent.

But I applaud your getting in this guy's face. If no one ever does, the only conclusion this guy will ever draw from it is:

1) Nobody gives a crap what he has on his bumper.

2) Everybody who sees those stickers must agree with him.

3) He sure doesn't get any shit for it, must be doin' somethin' right, then, 'eh?

4) He might be encouraged to get even worse, as would others who'd also see this behavior as unchecked.

If there are no consequences for this, THAT, in and of itself, is a REWARD or REINFORCEMENT of such behavior.

BTW, I'm also glad he DIDN'T have his FUCKING guns with him (maybe he's one of those all-talk types with nothing to back it up...).

[Carson]

112. We should "MAKE THEM STOP"?

Stop what? Having bumper stickers? "Tell them not to"??

"Hey, Repug, you CAN'T have that stupid bumpersticker!!"

Yes, let's outlaw Repug bumper stickers. Or harrass everyone person we see who has one, or several.

Great tactic.

So much for freedom.

(edited for spelling)

[slojim240]

88. What if this was a great way to get some neat RW messages on DU?

Hmmmmmmmm....:think:

[movonne]

2. What state???? I love your story..We really have to fight back.

[NightTrain]

9. It happened in Connecticut, of all places.

We're one of the more comparatively liberal states, which is why that loser's bumper sticker's really knocked me for a loop.

All I know is, when I saw I'D RATHER BE KILLING DEMOCRATS, I knew that motherfucker would hear from me. And I don't give a good goddamn who disapproves. I feel great about what I did today, so FUCK YOU!!!

[Arugula Latte]

27. I'm with ya, NightTrain!

These assholes have bullied us for too long. Good for you for fighting back!

If it had been the regular run-of-the-mill rightwing crap "we vote pro-life" etc., that would be one thing, but "I'd rather be killing Democrats" should not go unanswered!

[mitchtv]

65. In CT of all places

tho I'd like to kill pukes, I would never advertise such base inclinations.

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[mitchtv]

63. you won'tbe around long

sniff

[othermeans]

3. Isn't it funny somebody who never killed anything bigger than a rat

thinks they know everything about what it takes to be a hero? Wait I guess I could be talking about the reichsfuhrer too. Those guys are all pussies they talk the talk but will never walk the walk.

[Dogmudgeon]

4. Take a chill pill. Seriously.

This does not help our side one bit -- and it's potentially dangerous.

Legally, it's also a form of assault.

This is a high-pressure election. Try to keep the anger under control. Rage never helps, as you can easily see when the Rightists do it.

Do you really want to turn into the left-wing version of a Freeper?

Keeping sane is more difficult, but it's ultimately the best choice.

--bkl

[Tsiyu]

15. To each his or her own

To me, those bumper stickers are an assault. And Repukes have won by intimidation and insult. So, have fun if you have the stomach for this, but be careful.

I personally cannot discuss politics right now with any degree of timidity. The gloves are off. I am so sick and disgusted and in grief over my nation I don't care if my passion bugs anybody. They can kiss my teeny little Democrat ass.

So, more power to you. Yours is not everyone's style, but it does reflect the sentiments of many.

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[foo_bar]

64. look who is talking (on the internet)?

[jdj]

what form of assault is it?

I'm curious.

And if "I'd rather be killing democrats" isn't hate speech, then I don't know what is.

[bicentennial_baby]

85. I know in MA verbal assault is a real crime on the books

I was told by my gunsafety instructor that a verbal assault conviction here in MA is enough to get my CCP taken away.

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[Dogmudgeon]

36. So ... you guys have lost control, right?

When you lose control, you lose.

Let Republicans be losers. There are far better ways to humiliate, to defeat, to overcome them.

Traffic-light temper tantrums are more suited to Freepers, bigots, and thugs.

--bkl

[WEagle]

39. yea, I don't think road rage is good way to go, dangerous

you never know if something may happen to endanger others on the road.

[sr_pacifica]

103. Sorry, man, but you lost it.

I have to say the guy handled himself better than you did. He was probably gunning his engine because he was afraid you were going to do him harm.

Now what if it was the other way around? A Bushie yelling and flipping off a Kerry-ite?

Bad behavior and dangerous no matter who does it.

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[ProfessorGAC]

109. Huh?

How is it assault? I looked it up on in a law book when i read that and i don't see how it fits the definition.

Assault would require the potential of threat. Two cars driving side by side don't constitute that. Assault laws do not inhibit freedom of speech, unless the potential for bodily threat to the victim is extant.

The Professor

[arcane1]

5. "I'D RATHER BE KILLING DEMOCRATS"???

one can't hate America any more than that :eyes:

[Union Thug]

13. That's the one that pushed my buttons..

... and in my opinion, justified that verbal onslaught.

[belle]

100. I think it's justified, but still not really a good idea, for reasons

mentioned above (potentially dangerous, doesn't really help anything).

[Pobeka]

29. That bumper sticker might be classified as a hate crime.

It targets an entire group, rather than an individual.

What if it said instead:

"I'd rather be killing negros"

or:

"I'd rather be killing indians".

It's not different from burning a cross, or a hanging a noose on a minority's property.

In the old days (end of the 20th century), this would not be tolerated, and someone may well start legal action against the perpetrator. "Not my car" would not be a defense, as just the act of driving the car with the sticker inflicts the damage.

I don't know if the Southern Poverty Law Center has any further info on this type of thing (targeting a political party with hate speech).

[HFishbine]

40. Free Speech

You can say those things. Saying, "I'd rather be killing _____," is not a crime. If you committed a criminal act while sporting those bumber stickers or shouting such slogans, then you might be guilty of a hate crime, but simply expressing a view, no matter how repugnant, is not a crime -- and thank goodness it's not.

[Pobeka]

101. Speech is not entirely free. Google for:

"Morris Dees"
+Portland
+Ethiopian

There was a case tried against a neo-nazi leader in Portland OR in 1990.

The leader of the group only spoke, and made pamphlets. Skinhead members of the group commited a hate crime -- a murder.

The leader of the group lost a civil suit for 12.5 million, yet all he did was use "free speech".

I'm not saying the bumper sticker gets you in that same class, but in at least one case a jury did recognize that inciting hate against a particular group leads to culpability for damages, even if the means of incite using "free speech".

I understand your point that using free speech is not a criminal act. But fortunately it doesn't not let the speaker entirely off the hook either.

[Nordic]

49. yeah, that one deserves challenging

If I saw that one I'd have to challenge that asshole, too.

Way to go, Nighttrain! They think they an be bullies because they think we're all latte-sipping pussies.

We got a different message for them.

[Algomas]

86. How long do you think...

How long do you think you could drive around town with a "I'd rather be killing Republicans" bumper sticker on your car? I guarantee you would be hauled in for an interview with either Homeland Security or the SS and be forever on the watch list.

[bleedingheart]

7. You are my HERO

You said EVERYTHING I would say!!!

[RandomKoolzip]

8. Jeez..ten bucks says this story lands in Free Republic's lap...

With alls orts of comments about how "dangerously angry" all liberals are (ironically, I've never seen a bumper sticker that said "I'd rather be killing republicans," though.)

[Union Thug]

10. Two Thumbs way up!

Give 'em hell!

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[0rganism]

12. Bad idea, for several reasons

Consequences matter.

1. you were on the job -- hell, you probably have the phone number for your employer tattooed on the back of the truck, I hope you don't get a nasty surprise tomorrow;

2. you engaged in making the road a bit less safe by agitating another driver as well as yourself;

3. you probably strengthened his resolve by yelling at him -- he knows he got your goat;

4. he could have been a psycho nutbag with a .45 in the glove compartment, and capped your ass at the next light;

5. as you predicted, he may very well have taken out his pent-up agression on his family, and there's no need to contribute that kind of crap.

A simple :thumbsdown: at the light would have been sufficient.

[NightTrain]

17. My reply....

<<1. you were on the job -- hell, you probably have the phone number for your employer tattooed on the back of the truck, I hope you don't get a nasty surprise tomorrow;>>

Nope! The trucks are unmarked.

<<2. you engaged in making the road a bit less safe by agitating another driver as well as yourself;>>

Can't argue with that, but I was too pissed off to give a shit. FWIW, though, I only get that angry about once every decade!

<<3. you probably strengthened his resolve by yelling at him -- he knows he got your goat;>>

Oh, come on! If somebody got behind you and started giving you that kind of shit over your bumper stickers, wouldn't you have the courage of your convictions to at least flip that person off? Well, that guy didn't, which tells me a lot about him.

<<4. he could have been a psycho nutbag with a .45 in the glove compartment, and capped your ass at the next light;>>

As Tom Cruise said in RISKY BUSINESS, "Sometimes you just gotta say 'What the fuck?'."

<<5. as you predicted, he may very well have taken out his pent-up agression on his family, and there's no need to contribute that kind of crap.>>

If I hadn't caused him to do it, he'd have come up with another excuse. So fuck him.

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[ermoore]

69. Roccia speaks truth.

Everything Roccia just said is true. All this talk about scaring him and making him rethink his bumpersticers is bullshit. You probably just made him more certain that he's right to have devalued his car by putting them on there in the first place.

[Classic]

89. I said exactly what he said and was kicked off..

I think we need equal oppurtunity censorship. The guy who wrote this thread speaks of harrassing and threatening an innocent driver. I say that is wrong. I am booted and that moron stays. What the hell is going on?

[mitchtv]

70. Our party??

ha

[Carson]

113. Puhleeze

'Oh, come on! If somebody got behind you and started giving you that kind of shit over your bumper stickers, wouldn't you have the courage of your convictions to at least flip that person off? Well, that guy didn't, which tells me a lot about him."

Actually, no. I've been flipped off and screamed at several times because of my bumperstickers. I chose to retain my dignity and not respond in like manner.

Just because I don't yell obsenities or give rude gestures back doesn't mean I'm a coward or lack conviction. It simply means I won't lower myself to their level.

It's a bumpersticker. Big deal. Don't act like an idiot.

[RegexReader]

38. Organism is absolutely right on what to do here

0rganism Posted:
Consequences matter.

1. you were on the job

Scenario #1
He is dialing 911 with his right hand and reports a road rage incident. Gives the tag # of the couple that watched everything from behind you as witnesses. He reports to 911 dispatcher that he is in fear of his life that you had something that appeared to be a weapon<¿maybe it was your cell phone that he say looks like a small handgun?>. The police intervene and you're arrested for disorderly conduct and terroristic threats. Your boss is called to come pick up the delivery vehicle and is given a report of why/what happened. You are fired for workplace violence since you were on the clock and had to be arrested.

Scenario #2
He baits you with some finger action and taunts of his own that cannot be seen by the witnesses due to the placement of bumper stickers. Since you're already mad, you jump out of your vehicle and grab the open window to yell at him. He sprays you with pepper spray and stomps the accelerator. You fall and are run over by the rear tires as his vehicle moves. EMS is called but pronounces you dead due to an injury incompatible with life(brains on pavement). Since he used non-lethal force and was trying to leave from an attacker, the DA cannot press charges.

Who is the loser in both of those cases? Like my mom always said, "Always, always hold the moral high ground."

Picking fights such as these in such charged elections as this one, is not a good idea. I suggest some anger management classes.

RegexReader
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[Stew225]

14. Ya know, if I read this at Free Republic which, btw,

I've never visited, I would be pissed at this kind of behavior. I can't believe that a liberal would resort to these redneck methods.

His bumper stickers were an example of his First Amendment rights. You're screaming at him like that were, I suppose, the same, save for a possible comparison to yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.

I feel embarassed for you that you're not embarrassed. I don't think you're an asshole so figure that you just lost your cool. But, tough guy, I wouldn't be proud of it! Further, you're going to get your anus shot some day if you keep doing this shit.

Peace.

[NightTrain]

24. Perhaps it's high time we liberals started fighting back!

Granted, I might have taken it too far, but when you're seeing red you just don't care.

If you're going to drive around with that kind of stuff on your vehicle--left-wing or wight-wing--you can't expect everybody to judt ignore it. I know that for a fact because I've gotten some shit over my bumper sticker on occasion. And I at least have had the courage of my convictions to give my detractors the finger!

[Eloriel]

37. Well, there's the right way to fight back and the wrong way to

fight back.

If it was really, really important to you to just vent your spleen no matter what the consequences, and you feel all better and like a real he-man or something as a result, then :shrug: I guess I can see how you thought it was the right thing to do in the moment.

But it accomplishes absolutely NOTHING more. In fact, it actually adds to the hatred, conflict and even the violence. That makes it actually counterproductive in my book. It's also unlikely you won any hearts and minds, so chalk another one in the counterproductive column.

I am not trying to make you feel bad and don't really fault you for your passion in the moment. I do hope, however, that you'll take the opportunity to think about what some other DUers and myself are saying. Just think about it, that's all.

[Andy_Stephenson]

108. What if the truck...

did not belong to the driver?

[BiggJawn]

96. Sooo...Maybe Nighttrain should've offered to sing "The Rainbo Song"...

...with the in-breed?
M-Kay?

Shocked the Hell out of Cletus, I imagine. He's been told all his life that Liberals are "Pussies", and here's one just climbed his ass and called him out.

He probably pissed in his Carharts.

Not condonning road rage, but sporting the kind of bumper stickers that yokel had is tantamount to wearing a Klan robe in the Cabrini 'hood, IMO...

[dietdpfan]

16. I have to agree with the posters who thought this was wrong.

He probably wasn't responding to you because he was trying not to get in a car accident.

Step back for a second and imagine somebody behind both of your cars watching your interaction. Who looks like the out-of-control driver? The one shouting obscenities out of his car or the one keeping his eyes on the road?

There are better ways to "goad" the repugs. Do you have any bumperstickers on your car? Get in front of him to show him your side of things. Just smile as you pass by him. You'll look much more in control of things.

Make it a friendly bumpersticker war. :)

[NightTrain]

21. Speaking of spectators...

...there was an African-American couple in the car behind me who witnessed the entire spectacle and laughed their asses off the whole time. Forgot to mention that before!

[dietdpfan]

23. They could have been laughing at your behavior.

Maybe?

:shrug:

No offense meant but do you really know why they were laughing?

[jdj]

26. Not only that, but I have always had to worry about bumper stickers

being in the south, and he put them on his car, so he can reap what he sowed. He make take them off after what you said to him today, especially since he was too scared to respond.

God was with you today, and good for you, at least for letting him know not everyone agrees with him. Ironically, I was behind a family today with Bush/Cheney stickers, a sticker saying "Relax, God is in control" and then a sticker RIGHT BESIDE IT saying Kerry would take their guns away or something (in NC, but with SC tags). I had to laugh out loud at that, because if I hadn't been in the van with the great big work phone # on the side and if I hadn't been outnumbered four to one, what I would have liked to ask this guy is 'if God is in control, why are all the gun bumper stickers? Why do you need guns if God is protecting your super special xtian ass?'.

Which of course I did not say, but I got a good chuckle out of his display.

[mr_du04]

18. This kind of bothers me

If a freeper had been flipping you off and cussing at you you would have posted a thread how a fascist freeper attacked you. I can understand why you did it though but, I think we liberals know better. This is not meant as an attack just a slight criticism so please take it in the spirit intended.

[NightTrain]

25. If a freeper had flipped me off and cussed at me...

...I'd have given it right back to him! Why? Because I have the courage of my convictions, unlike Mr. "I'd Rather Be Killing Democrats." He was just a wimp in Rambo's clothing.

[jdj]

30. I'm beyond offended at that sticker.

I've never seen it, and I hope I never do.

Has anyone here ever seen or displayed a sticker that says "I'd rather be killing republicans"???? That is beyond political, that is psychopathic hate.

Okay Nightrain, you've earned your "give 'em hell" badge. I think most of us really appreciate it, and we exempt you from taking any more chances like this again if you don't want to. Bravo!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

19. Keep going like that, and you're going to get yourself killed. JMHO.

[0007]

20. 'Tis easy to blow off steam, but the high road is the best road.

I've had several experiences like the one you described. And have always regretted it afterward upon thinking of all the things that could go wrong.

[Vickers]

22. ""HEY MOTHERFUCKER, I'M A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT! "

:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:
:loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya::loveya:

[EnfantTerrible]

28. Did you get any on your shoes?

:evilgrin:

[skygazer]

32. Rock on, NightTrain

That would be enough to piss me off, too. You're right - driving around with such hate filled crap on one's vehicle is an invitation. So maybe your response wasn't politically correct - fuck it! Give 'em hell!

:yourock: :toast:

[Mad_Dem_X]

45. I agree - good for you!!!

How can any sane person ride around with those hate-filled slogans on their vehicle?? This country is so f'ed up...:grr:

[latebloomer]

33. Why were you trying to "set him off"?

Seems like you were spoiling for a fight. You could have gotten your head blown off. Please, deal with your anger some other way. I'd hate to see your obit here on DU.

[UpsideDownFlag]

34. um, don't take this the wrong way...

but the jerkoff in that scenario was you. sorry.

[calimary]

81. Respectfully disagree. The jerkoff in that scenario is the one who feels

it necessary (or maybe righteous or even, perhaps, Godly) to put a bumper sticker on his car, on PUBLIC display, that says something as insulting, vile, and hateful (and TRULY UNAMERICAN) as "I'd rather be killing Democrats." AS A DEMOCRAT, I would NOT let that stand. To do so would be to give a tacit approval. Bad behavior unchecked...

[Cha]

35. I don't blame you...a real live freeper on the

road. AND you couldn't get him to respond to your calling out his ugly statements on his bumperstickers..

[Orangepeel]

41. are you proud of yourself?

:eyes:

I'm sure that you converted him, along with all the other people on the road witnessing your outburst.

[G_j]

42. not on the road!

it is crazy enough out there! There is no excuse for potentially dangerous stuff like this on the road. Find a way to vent rage that doesn't effect the safety of 'bystanders'.

:think:

[in_cog_ni_to]

43. I'm beginning to feel like a "radical" around here.

I think what you did was justified and AWESOME. Those bumper stickers were screaming for a confrontation. I also would have called the police and reported the "I'd rather be killing Democrats" sticker. Sounds like a threat to me! Then again, under the repuke rules it could just be Free Speech. :eyes:

Night Train, :yourock: The reason the repukes ARE where they ARE is because we Democrats haven't confronted them and called them on all their bullshit ENOUGH. It's about time we start...unless we want to live under a repuke regime forever. We have to stop letting them get away with saying whatever hateful shit they wish to say about Democrats.

[calimary]

78. Everybody PLEASE consider this MOST perceptive statement:

"The reason the repukes ARE where they ARE is because we Democrats haven't confronted them and called them on all their bullshit ENOUGH. It's about time we start...unless we want to live under a repuke regime forever. We have to stop letting them get away with saying whatever hateful shit they wish to say about Democrats."

I know what you mean, in_cog_ni_to.

Granted, I wouldn't have used quite the language or volume, but I SURE DO THINK THOSE THINGS.

You beat down a bully by CONFRONTING him or her.

Repeat:

You beat down a bully by CONFRONTING him or her.

You encourage bad behavior by NOT CHECKING IT when it occurs.

Repeat:

You encourage bad behavior by NOT CHECKING IT when it occurs.


These people rant the way they do because, up til now, we've been cowed and told we have to play nice, or that we always have to take the high road, and there's just simply been no reason for them to stop. Certainly there's been NOBODY out there "encouraging" them to stop. They do it - because they CAN. Because up til now, nobody's ever given them shit for it. Because up til now, they've NEVER had to face any consequences for it. It's bad behavior completely unchecked. And thus, in effect, IT'S BEING REWARDED AND REINFORCED.

Maybe if that's the reaction this guy got every time he hit the road, he might start thinking twice about parading that hatred around on his back bumper.

[Jacobin]

44. Geeze, this was in Connecticut?

It's not that bad in my part of the rural deep south....

Pretty soon we're gonna have to start cracking jokes about those dumb northerners...

he he

[AgadorSparticus]

46. i'm not saying i would do what you did, but i have to give you this:

you made someone rethink his bumpersticker message. maybe not enough to remove them but he's thinking about it.

[neebob]

47. What you did was aggressive and dangerous

Reading your account, your behavior shocks me.

I get disgusted at the humblest, most unobtrusive little W sticker, so it's not like I don't understand your feelings. I agree the guy's a piece of shit, but you went after him like a maniac. It isn't worth the risk, and in the end, we still have this thing called freedom of expression.

And there's this other thing called karma that I like to think will eventually reward a person who feels comfortable saying he'd rather be killing Democrats.

[kodi]

48. nicely done NT. those types are the Borg

no play nicy nicy with that ilk.

drive them back into their spiderholes.

[Crago]

50. I'm with you Night Train

I'm with you Night Train, it's time we Dems take off the gloves. Being nice and timid resulted with a Chimp as president.

[George W. Dunce]

52. I usually just smile and point to their sticker and they will more then

likely smile back and then I give them the finger. I know, not to mature but I am tired of insults, and thats what those stickers are, insults. If you want to drive around all day insulting every person with your bumper stickers be prepared to be insulted back. B/C 04 no problem, attacks on liberalism I will not stand for that is how we got the whimp label. His freedom of speech doesn't trump mine.

[ermoore]

51. Wow, you're amazing.

If only everyone here did the same that would really show those freepers who the better side was. You should be so damn proud of yourself. Such a big man. Honestly, I think the freeper came out of this looking like less of a douchebag. If nothing else he showed admirable restraint. And I seriously doubt if you scared him, even for a second. If some asshole got in my face and started screaming curses, I think I (and most people) would probably try and beat his ass. That's what I'd expect someone with those bumperstickers to do. Of course I guess I'd also expect someone with those bumperstickers to be the dickwad doing the screaming . . .




Yeah, the bumperstickers are terrible, but still don't think you're a badass cause some guy showed himself the better man and walked away.


On edit: just a few typos.

[Name removed]

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[George W. Dunce]

56. OOOHHHHH

Another keyboard warrior. Calm down

[Roccia e Segale]

61. You too.

[George W. Dunce]

62. Really? Show me in my posts

where I threaten anyone? Please think before you make yourself look like a fool.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

73. Prenda un aumento fuori di una scogliera, disruptore!

Capisce?

[George W. Dunce]

74. ummm sure! Whatever.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

76. I was addressing the now-tombstoned freeptard

his name meant rocky cliff in Italian, and I told him to jump off one!

[Name removed]

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[George W. Dunce]

72. Freeper alert? Are you serious?

I was defending myself. Geeee someone here disagrees with me they must be a Freeper! Unreal, you obviously didn't read the pictures caption. Can we please stop that stupidity?

[in_cog_ni_to]

77. NOT YOU!

Roccia e Segale is who I was responding to and he has now been tombstoned...he went to freeper heaven. :hi:

[George W. Dunce]

79. Sorry, thought because it was under my reply it was meant for me

My apologies

[in_cog_ni_to]

80. No problem.

If you look on the right side of a post you will see "reply to" and the post #...that tells you which post is being responded to. ;) Also, if you look at just the post titles before the posts you will see a little line going up to the post that is being responded to.

[Fescue4u]

54. Wow. That was admirable

I bet you really impressed him.

Its good thing he didnt mean it though.."Id rather be killing Democrats".

If he did, we might be reading your obituary.

[noiretextatique]

58. i understand your frustration

and i'm glad you got out of that situation in one piece.
i won't condemn you actions, and i don't think you will cause the downfall of the democratic party, as some seem to think.
i think you were just mad as hell, and let your emotions get the better of you. i understand completely.

[Radius]

60. Narrow Line

I have found that fucking with people can lead to unintended consequences.

That guy could have been an ex-marine and dragged you out of your vehicle and beat you unconscious.

He could have put a slug in your brain. And then gone to get lunch.

You have the ability to do that stuff to people but I hope you are willing to deal with the possible consequences.

When I see this shit or get into shit with people it is almost always better to ignore it. He put out the bait and you took it hook line and sinker. IMHO.

[MUSTANG_2004]

67. Doesn't anyone else find this post suspicious?

I mean, really, who here as ever seen a bumper sticker that says "I'd Rather Be Killing Democrats"?

[mitchtv]

84. I trust Night train explicitly

you will see. The best polls , too.

[norml]

68. That's no way to win friends,and influence people.

Next time have a sign,or bumper sticker to hold up. And try smiling while you do it,if you really want to get to them.

[Killer Poodle]

71. I got a lot of shit for the Darwin Fish on the back of my car.

Seriously.. I had sodas thrown at me, people road raging and cutting me off..

Kinda sucks that you tried to start shit with him.. Really.

When the plaque's adhesive wore out I never put another on.

[Evergreen Emerald]

82. I agree with those who suggest...

...that you do not lower yourself to the repuke mentality.

[mitchtv]

83. 2002

your advice was followed

[Lost147]

87. Congratulations, you're now as low as the guy you berated NT

[mitchtv]

90. I didn't berate anyone

pretty low of you to suggest I did.

[Lost147]

91. bleh woops

I just hit reply meant to be to original post sorry Mitch

[Piperay]

106. I bet most of them

were real good Christains too but they would kill you if they thought they could shut you up by doing so. :-(

[Droopy]

92. Well, NightTrain, I understand your anger

And I would have been pissed to see the one about killing Dems, but I think you took the wrong course of action here. I think you should have copied down a license plate number and phoned him in for the killing Dems sticker. It was probably made at one of those do it yourself sites as I cannot think anybody in their right mind would consider selling such things.

The best possible scenario happened from your course of action. The guy carried on and you did not get into a physical and possibly a lethal situation.

Please think about that the next time something pisses you off.

Keep your cool, man.

[Gyre]

93. Oooh, you must be one of them

Angry Liberal Democrats! I've heard of you.:)

Gyre

[bywho4who]

94. What I did is

Made a sign for inside my car that is attached w/wooden handle that I can hold up for the repukes that I pass on my daily trips to and from work My sign says FIGHT TERRORISM EXECUTE BUSH
THIS AD APPROVED BY MILLIONS



:smoke: :hippie:

[liberalmuse]

95. Well...

You reap what you sow. If you put something that offensive about other human beings on your vehicle which basically advocates killing them, you deserve what you get. Fuck him. A campaign bumpersticker is one thing, but that shit is revolting. I don't blame you one damn bit!

[clu]

97. hm

rofl

[Radio-Active]

98. hmmm...

is it possible he was a deaf freeper? I can't imagine him not reacting at all to your taunts.

[JCMach1]

99. this isn't fighting back, this is being a royal a-hole

honestly

[fujiyama]

102. I don't blame you

for flipping out. The stickers really are repulsive. Anyone saying they want to kill other people, that too fellow Americans is beyond the pale. I've felt a bit of rage and anger inside when I see cars with these kind of bumper stickers.

However, I think it's better to think to yourself that that person is a freak, and try to get the hell away from them. Honestly these people are nuts. What's to say that these people WON'T kill you? Consequences mean nothing to them. Other witnesses could have said it was in self defense.

Roads aren't the best place to settle political differences. The most I would urge anyone to do is give a hand gesture, but even that can have bad consequences. The best thing to do is ignore these motherfuckers, and try to pass them as soon as possible. Show off your own bumperstickers!

[gypsyangel]

104. I enjoy screaming at the abortion activists who show up at democratic

rallies. My phrase of choice is "Yeah, I think someone's mother could have benefitted from an abortion." These people who hold these signs, I've noticed, are middle aged or older women, quite unattractive and look as though they've never even had children. It's freakishly interesting.

[Bunny]

105. That was a truly obnoxious comment.

"These people who hold these signs, I've noticed, are middle aged or older women, quite unattractive and look as though they've never even had children."

How does one "look as though they've never had children"? How does that work? And what is your standard for attractiveness, in order to be able to have children?

Not a very enlightened comment.

[Robbien]

107. Do you also shout "Four more Years" at Bush rallies?

Your anti-women's choice stance and your bigoted view of activists go nicely with the "Four More Years" chant.

[Chomskyite]

110. I'd think a thumbs down sign would suffice

Too many of these idiots around here would be armed. And the B/C sticker drivers tend to drive like maniacs anyway. I'd rather just stay out of their way. Let Darwin weed em out.

[skypilot]

111. Quite frankly....

...I'd normally be appalled at the behavior you describe because I know that we don't like getting that kind of reaction from rightwingers because of our bumperstickers, BUT I couldn't stop laughing as I read your post. I guess one of us had to do it at least once and I'm glad it was you NightTrain.

"PRESIDENT KERRY, YOU ASSHOLE!" I fucking love it.

[AmerDem]

114. Everyone of them are tough talking cowards

All talk , No balls! This goes from their leadership down to the last programmed monkey.

[itcfish1]

115. I Saw

A car that had that bumper sticker, I'd Rather Be Killing Democrats and "You are Either a Liberal or You are An American". This really got me angry, not because they supported bush, but because One was threatening and the other a vicious lie. I sat down wrote a long list of How liberals helped this country. First point, if it were not for Liberals , we would be flying the Union Jack and singing "God Save the Queen" and listed many great Liberal accomplishments, and just placed the note under the windshield. I never insulted the person or questioned their choices, just pointed out that Liberals and Democrats was just as Patriotic or perhaps more than any closed minded conservative.

:dem: