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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:35 PM
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Wiring Bush is the stupidest thing Rove could ever do.
After all, the man can't keep just one thought in his head. Imagine how confused he must get trying to listen to Kerry and Rove at the same time! Maybe that's why he's done so badly in the debates so far.

But, with respect to a possible wire...why haven't the Kerry Edwards people made some noise about this? Maybe they think that a wire hurts Bush more than it helps him...I don't know. :eyes:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:36 PM
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1. well whatever the reason is for Kerry not bringing it up
I'm sure it's well thought out .

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:38 PM
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2. Can't bring it up if it can't be absolutely proven. Otherwise it becomes
another memo-gate distraction.

Plenty of ammo against shrubya without any of these distractions.
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I Lean Left Donating Member (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:39 PM
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3. Not bringing it up
because he keeps kicking Bush's ass!
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:40 PM
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4. Exactly. As I said on another thread, whatever they're feeding him
through that wire, keep doing it! :toast:
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:41 PM
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5. I noticed it was brought up on This Week; George S. said
that he had watched the video several times and still couldn't figure out what it was.

-wildflower
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 02:57 PM
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8. The"first hand knowledge"of the Bush earpiece just broke- does media care?

To the mods: Below are portions of a letter from Bush contract interpreter Fred Burks to Bob Fertik of democrats.com detailing Burks' exclusive assessment of Bush wearing an earpiece. If you must, move this thread but I urge you not to since this is the FIRST news from someone with first-hand knowledge.


From: Fred Burks

As a deep insider myself, I have independent confirmation of President Bush using an earpiece to assist him in communicating intelligently with others. I've worked as a contract Indonesian language interpreter with the US State Department for over 18 years. I first started interpreting at the presidential level in 1995 at a White House meeting for President Clinton and President Suharto of Indonesia with their top advisors. You can read a short story of the many small miracles that led me to interpret for presidents at www.gcforall.org/inspirations (scroll down to Issue #1, where it is the second story).

On September 19, 2001, just eight days after 9/11, I was in the White House interpreting for an important 90-minute meeting between President Bush and President Megawati Soekarnoputri of Indonesia. This meeting made national news on all the TV networks, as at the time, the administration wanted to show they were supportive of our Muslim friends. Indonesia has the largest population of Muslims in the world. Over 80% of Indonesia's 220 million people are Muslim.

This was my first time interpreting for Bush. The previous day, I had been given the 22 points Bush would be covering in this meeting in order to familiarize myself with the topics to be discussed. About half of these "talking points" had to do with terrorism, which was to be fully expected given what had just happened. The other points, however, involved many details of Indonesian politics which even I would have had a tough time addressing, let alone Bush, who I assumed had limited knowledge of Indonesia.

During those 90 minutes, President Bush not only covered all the points, he covered them quite well and without any notes! Not once during the entire meeting did he look at any notes or receive cues from anyone present in discussing the Indonesian political situation with depth and intelligence. I was astonished! "How could this be?" I asked myself. It was a huge surprise. I concluded either that Bush was much more intelligent than we had been led to believe, or that somehow someone was feeding answers to him through a hidden earpiece. At the time, I really didn't know which of these was true.

Having worked directly with President Bush twice since then, and having additionally talked with many of my fellow interpreters who have worked directly with him, I am now certain that he could not have had that much knowledge of Indonesia. He doesn't even read the daily newspaper to keep up with what's being reported in the press. I am convinced that he must have been using some sort of earpiece through which someone was telling him what to say.

Having interpreted for media guests touring large TV studios, I've seen how the news anchors all have hidden earphones, and how the news producers are feeding them all sorts of information even as they talk live on TV. "20 seconds to a commercial," "15 seconds of filler here," "wrap it up quick " etc... This is standard practice for live TV shows. The "let me finish" comment made by Bush in the debate was only confirmation of something I already knew.

http://community.democrats.com/forums/discussions.cfm?forumid=170&topicid=139727

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:48 PM
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6. Stupid acts often spring from desperation, as is the case with Rove.
With Shrub, on the other hand, stupid acts spring from, well...stupidity. :D
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 01:51 PM
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7. I don't know... why didn't Biden discuss having his senate office bugged
back when he was running in the primaries. The story broke years later when the offices in the senate were reassigned and some of the still in place bugs were found. I believe that when the story was reported, Biden said that he had been aware that he had been bugged at the time.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:15 PM
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9. If Bu$h is wired,
than it must be a Democratic operative doing the transmitting.

Bu$h is making a total fool of himself. If he is wired, the transmissions are being intercepted and altered to make Bu$h look like an idiot.

I think it's just Bu$h being himself.

I've never, ever, seen him speak more than one sentence articulately, factually, or genuinely.

He just completely lacks dignity and presence of mind. He is embarrassing and, it is no wonder that few, if any, world leaders take him seriously.

I bet after world leaders finish meeting with, or speaking with, Bu$h, they just shake their heads and whisper to their aides, "What a complete ass that man is. God help the planet if he gets 4 more years to further destroy it."

Bu$h is a national embarrassment. I'd feel sorry for him if he were not so dishonest and dangerous.
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the_outsider Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:16 PM
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10. In the first debate, there was probably some technical glitch
Before starting his answer for every question, * waited for about a minute before starting his mumble as if he was waiting for something and he wasn't getting it. Then I thought he was just trying to organize his thoughts the slow thinker he is. Maybe not..
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:20 PM
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11. Red herring
Box on his back or not, Bush is still as stupid as a box of rocks.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:27 PM
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12. He Could Get Away With It Though
keep saying it's silly, those crazy liberals, conspiracies, etc... - while laughing his ass off.
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TrustingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 03:29 PM
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13. Kerry should Not Touch This.
we can have our fun on all these internets we have, but it would be a disaster for John to touch his lips to it.
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drunkdriver-in-chief Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:16 PM
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14. If Kerry mentioned it, the media would call him a conspiracy nut
When someone makes an accusation against bush, the press demands 100% proof.
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vetwife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-04 04:37 PM
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15. I think it was this
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