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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:42 PM
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Assuming He Wins -- Will Kerry Pardon The * Administration When They
are charged with crimes against humanity? Will he do what Ford did with Nixon, and what Poppy did with the Reagan administration? Incidently, Reagan's administration are the one's who came back to bite us in the ass this time, like a Terminator movie. Or will Kerry nail them to the wall like I hope he does? Why am I doubtful?
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UpsideDownFlag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:43 PM
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1. i have no reason to believe that kerry will do anything besides
helping them with their bags on the way out.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:43 PM
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2. The prosecutor in Kerry won't allow IMO n/t
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:44 PM
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3. He is experienced as a criminal prosecutor.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:45 PM
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4. Cuz that isn't how its done here. D.C. tends to let bygones be bygones,
however in JK's case... he has a lot of memories of their past wrongdoings in our name -----> www.guerrillanews.com/crack not to mention the loathsome personal attacks he has had to weather in the last few months.... if it were me... I would sign on to the ICC and turn them over pronto.
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Tab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:46 PM
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5. Are you kidding?
PARDON them???

There's no way (short of some major blackmail) that he would pardon them.

If dems have enough congress seats to initiate some kind of legal proceedings, we should throw their asses in jail.

Kerry is a former prosecutor. I don't think he'd have any problem with that, assuming he had enough of congress to pull it off.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:49 PM
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8. Welcome underground stupidgit
:hi:
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:44 PM
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20. Welcome, Stupidgit!
:toast:
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:43 PM
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27. Congress won't be necessary
Once they are voted out, they are normal citizens. All Kerry has to do is sick the Attorney General on them, that is, of course, assuming that Bush doesn't give a blanket pardon to everyone in his administration on the way out.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:47 PM
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6. Jeepers, I Hope The Prosecutor Takes On The Terminator
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StupidFOX Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:48 PM
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7. Revenge is sweet, but...
It's more important to get the moderate Republicans working with the Democrats. That way, we have a majority supporting us in Congress.
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GHOSTDANCER Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:21 PM
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26. Exactly a bi-partisan scapegoat to allow the machine to keep moving.
And really aren't they Frat-Bros?
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:10 AM
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31. I'm one of those "moderate Republicans"
Edited on Wed Oct-20-04 12:12 AM by Oak2004
and throwing the lot of them into a cold hard basement in Belgium is just fine by me. Especially if you lose the key to the front door.

These characters are not Republicans -- they are traitors of the worst sort. They never met an American principle that they didn't hate.

(edited to spell according to the rules of English)
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:51 PM
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9. As much as I'd love to see them all in chains
You all know that he will have to pardon them, at least most of them. The country is most important and does it help the country to heal after the last four years if the people that 1/2 the country supported are behind bars? Doesn't mean that I would be all that upset if he doesn't, but we have to think of how the nation needs to be healed more than our wish to make them pay.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:58 PM
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12. The Nation Cannot Heal, Sir
Unless these criminals go behind bars. There is no way to restore the system without punishing the guilty; they will only scheme to do it again, and one day they will get it done for keeps. Every act of fraud and bribery committed by this administation and its money-men must issue in a prosecution and a sentence. The thing must be killed from the head down....

Asked whether good should be repaid for evil, the Master said: "With what, then do I repay good? Repay good for good; repay evil with correction."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:18 PM
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16. I agree with you, but I think Kerry would pardon the BFEE.
Some of these people have already been pardoned or not prosecuted (think Nixon and Reagan eras). They need to be brought to justice or the hydra will simply grow another head and bit us in the arse.

That said, it might be unsafe for Kerry to open investigations and prosecute. The BFEE has a tentacle in every ongoing concern.

America is going to change slowly, if at all. :(
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:30 PM
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17. He Will Not Pardon Them, Ma'am
He might not be fierce enough towards them to please me, but he will not pardon them....

"Kill one, warn one hundred."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:56 PM
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29. The media also
needs to have some fear of prosecution. Many of the * enablers in the media are not stupid, they knew they were backing evil people and ideas.

Maybe the only way to bring Americans back together is to show the ill informed just who and what they were backing when they voted republican. Sweeping it all under the rug just allows it to come back out later.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:59 PM
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13. And Yet, Poppy's Pardons Simply Let A Malignancy Spread
into a near-fatal cancer that has infested all our institutions. I don't see how it helped us heal.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:11 PM
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15. True, maybe I need to stop being such a moderate
I keep having the mistaken idea that it's ok to treat them like regular people. Silly me. Guess that's why I'm voting straight ticket Dem. :D
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:02 PM
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21. Buck Up, Sir
You may take it from me: there is no incompatibility between being moderate and knowing it is necessary to pay criminals their due....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:18 PM
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24. Here's an amusing image
Bunnypants, Rummy, Ashcroft, Condy, etc. as a chain gang making little ones out of big ones. They all have to drag Cheney's corpse around, because his heart gave out from the exertion of picking up his pick-axe.

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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:54 PM
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10. Kerry'll be too busy fixing the country and the world
We're in too big of a mess, here and abroad, for Kerry to spend time going after Bush and his clan.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 08:54 PM
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11. Probably
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 08:54 PM by camero
Because like Ford, he would say healing the country is more important. But nailing them to the wall will go alot farther towards healing, to let people know that noone is above the law.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:07 PM
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14. He won't need congress to
Edited on Tue Oct-19-04 09:08 PM by shraby
sic the Attorney General on the bastards. They have broken many many laws in four years. If he doesn't, we have to hold his feet to the fire. They have almost brought this country to its knees financially, and constitutionally.

Heal the country with pardons, my sweet ass! Get those hate mongers in jail where they can't do any more damage.
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Mean_Mr_Mustard Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:35 PM
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18. I think
Kerry is convinced enough what Bush did was a horrible thing. I dont think he will do such a thing.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 09:40 PM
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19. I think Kerry will send it to a independent prosecutor
and do his best to stay out of it. He will not pardon any of these crooks but will try to not make prosecuting them any part of the next administration. Just another reason to love Kerry. This man will prosecute and investigate. :bounce:
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undercover_brother Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:15 PM
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22. Can't prosecute mentally ill. He SHOULD nail Cheney though.
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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:18 PM
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25. Oh, That's A Good One -- Bush Takes The Insanity Defense
No prob. We'll stick him in with Hinkley and Charles Manson.
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 10:18 PM
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23. If He Does, I'll Demand My CongressCritter Impeach Him!
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-04 11:44 PM
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28. He better fucking not.
I want them all to go down so hard they never get back up.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:02 AM
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30. Don't be disappointed.
History has taught us that the Democrats WILL close ranks with the Republicans to protect the system. Don't expect prosecutions (or pardons. It will be a non-issue) even if the Democrats win a majority in the House and Senate.
It will sound something like this:

At his innaguration today, President John Kerry extended the olive branch and pledged bi-partisan unity. He stated that, "Now is not the time to dwell on the past. We have much work to do, Democrats and Republicans. We are ONE nation, under god. It is time to work together to make America great again!"

And THAT will be the end of it. :puke:


Question: Can we citizens file suit against bush* criminals, or in some way initiate criminal prosecutions?
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 12:55 AM
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32. If they ARE charged with such things and Kerry DOES pardon them
then he'll never, ever get my support again.
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