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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:47 AM
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I just got off the phone with a business associate.
Not: While poor, I am still trying.

We have control of the patents on a very efficient and unique hydroelectric technology. Without going into details, I can say that it works and could make a rather amazing impact in the mix of alternative energy technologies that would be needed to transform the economic realities of this nation.

I am advocating for, and receiving no opposition for, taking this overseas. Out of the US, to EU nations, where, quite frankly, we would most likely get a far warmer economic reception.

No one has even tried to knock holes in this idea.

Oh, said associate is a Bronze Star/PH WWII vet. He is appalled. Horrified.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:51 AM
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1. Well, if I can ever be of any help.
Just let me know. You really should take this technology abroad; There it might get used.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:56 AM
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5. My point exactly.
For the foreseeable future, there will be no sincere effort in the realm of alternative energy technologies in the US. That much is sadly clear.

Truly, the crisis has yet to really hit us. Until it does, we will carry on as we are: a stumbling, flailing, belligerent barroom drunk of a nation.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:01 AM
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6. When you get filthy rich, buy yourself an island and invite us to
come live with you. I've already told my husband I don't want to die in this state. So I'll be ready for a move.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:51 AM
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2. Good luck
Patents are pretty much worthless in my experience. Hopefully YOU are a big piece of this technilogical advance.
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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:51 AM
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3. Wherever the most promising landscape is, I'll urge you to set sail
for. It is your idea and you have to make the most of your efforts. Good luck.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 09:53 AM
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4. I'm in favor of it. The American dumbshits doesn't deserve this gift
Edited on Wed Nov-03-04 09:54 AM by frankzappa
after what they did yesterday. Fuck 'em.

I was once asked what I would say if some Freeper said to me "if you don't like this country, why don't you move elsewhere?"

And I answered: be careful what you ask for, you may get it.

There are entrepreneurs in our blue states (and red ones too) who may decide to leave - only they'll not only outsource themselves, but their businesses as well. Those businesses could have created jobs of the future for our kids. Instead, those jobs are now going to go to a more deserving country with highly educated people, like the Netherlands, India, Sweden, etc.

:evilfrown:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:01 AM
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7. The sad facts:
America is not a healthy place for transformative, forward-thinking technologies in much of any sector, especially energy. There is no will, no desire, no interest to take a good look at the status quo and even begin to consider changing it.

That is not good for us, the business, and that is not good for the nation as a whole. This is a time of concentration of wealth. That is never good for new ideas and new companies.

That said, a smart business must look for the place with the best conditions for success. For us, now, that place is not the US. There is not, at this time, one scintilla of evidence that is will be in any acceptable timespan.

So, I will continue to advocate, strongly, for outside of this country. Not to flee from, but to move to the best operating and business conditions.
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DulceDecorum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:03 AM
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8. This universe
has a strange way of answering requests.
Sometimes it giveth the substance
and keepeth everything else.

In other words,
they are so cutting their own throats.

(ours too, but they won't survive long enough to celebrate.
What has this fool won anyway?
Two wars? NO.
A stock market that is crashing? YES
A nation of people who opely hate him? YES
The wrath oF God? YES,
and Osama is PO'd too.)
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:12 AM
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9. Regretably, you are right.
Your technology wont get much attention in this country for the next 4 years. But the world as a whole needs your technology desperately. If this nation is so unwise as to turn it's back on the hope you offer, take that hope abroad.

Yours is NOT an unprecedented position. The Wright brothers got a cold shoulder from the US Govt. regarding their flight technology in the earliest years of the 1900's. So they took it abroad, and were recieved with open arms in France and Europe. That's a large reason why American flying machines were non-players in WWI.

It's shameful for this nation, but it's true. Go EAST, young man.
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:24 AM
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10. Canada.
They are putting up commercial windmills in Ontario and across Alberta like they were planting wheat. They LOVE alternative energy up there.
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 10:26 AM
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11. Asia and south and Central America
are big hydro users. Good luck!
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:08 AM
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12. Sounds like a wise move.
I vaguely remember reading somewhere (sorry I can't footnote this) that a lot of alternate-energy patents have been bought up by the energy and auto industries and then just sat on, unused. A way of keeping the US dependent (for as long as possible and profitable) on the same-old oil companies.

But you say you have your patents. Good! I think it's fine (maybe great) to take this technology to a country where you can get the support you'll need to bring it to as many people as possible. And sometime down the road the US will be importing it, because they'll have to.

Someone said yesterday (on a panel on c-span)that the EU has gained one thing from a US held hostage by BushCo*--and that is a new sense of unity in their disgust at where America is headed. Looks to me as if the future belongs to the rest of the world (and the more especially if they start to pull out of US investments). But maybe you're thinking of Asia or So. America? Sounds good too. Good luck!

I should say that I'm not particularly qualified to comment on all this. But it all seems so self-evident that the US is heading down a disastrous road--IF * succeeds in stealing this election (I'm hanging on to hope that he won't, for now).

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Sara Beverley Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:13 AM
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13. Best of luck to you. Let us know how to invest. I'm serious!
Good to know some of us in the business of science and technology. I'll pull my funds out of the US stock market and invest if this stuff gets off the ground.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 11:21 AM
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14. Think Canada. with the coming global warming, it will be a
great place to live.

I'm already looking into it.
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