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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:51 PM
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The bombings shall continue until morale improves.
As insane as it is, that seems to be the chosen strategy of Bushco.

I really don't believe that they are considering the international repercussions of Falluja and the myriad of other "precision" bombings that have taken out the wedding parties and families of innocents.

All the death in the name of "freedom." All the innocent life snuffed or destroyed in the name of "Democracy." Over 1000 American sons and daughters dead to "keep the fight over there" instead of "over here."

All the planning on "who's next."

We are being set up for a new intangible villain to make the "red scare" seem like the neighborhood drunk. And this time, the patients now run the ward. And this time, Russia is posturing again. And this time, China watches warily.

Without radical change occurring quickly, I really don't believe we will last another four years. America may be the biggest kid on the block, but even the biggest bullies get taken down by the neighborhood they live in once the neighbors get fed up.

It's a dark time for America and I hope we live to learn from it.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:36 PM
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1. All the death in the name of "freedom
It's all death and mayhem in the name of corporate control of Iraq and her resources.

If you want to steer the world towards a better way... do read what is up with alternative sources of energy that are becoming not so alternative at all. This is one way to take the reigns out of people who have no business holding them.

http://world.honda.com/news/2004/4041116_b.html
>>HES II is the further evolution of a joint development effort by Honda and Plug Power to produce a home refueling unit that provides hydrogen from natural gas for vehicle refueling, heat for domestic hot water use and electricity for the home. Testing of the HES II system will be done in conjunction with demonstration of Honda’s 2005 FCX fuel cell car on public roads in the Northeastern U.S.<<
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 08:57 PM
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2. For twenty years I have seen alternative power sources flit through
the news and many were more than viable.

It'll never happen until the last drop of oil is gone because of greed.

(but the HESII looks like it has a better chance of succeeding than most)
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:13 PM
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6. Chevron, Long Island Power Authority, the Utility Co. in Washington
State... Chrysler, Honda, hell there are too many to list are getting into fuel cell power generation... there is a power plant in I wanna say Alabama that is a hybrid station.. that is, it uses the heat that the cells generate to power turbines as well as the fuel cell membrane and I think it pushes over 80 to 85 percent efficiency... so... comparing that to an engine driven system that may be 20% efficient... you come out a winner with the hybrid plant... let me see if I can find the article.... it was breaking ground a few years ago..... WOAH.... check out this article... towards the bottom for the headers I listed......

http://www.iags.org/es052103.html
Over the past several months, news organizations and experts have regularly cited U.S. Department of Energy figures claiming that Iraq holds over 112 billion barrels (bbl) of proven reserves and up to 200 bbl of undiscovered reserves - making Iraq the world's second largest oil reserve. But DOE figures stand in contrast to those of a no less reputable government body, the Department of Interior's U.S. Geological Survey's (USGS).

Clean Coal-to-Methanol project a success

Fuel cell powered buses delivered to Europe

Fuel Cell Vehicles Reach 400-Mile Finish Line in Los Angeles

GM, Dow tout largest fuel cell deal

UPS to use Mercedez-Benz fuel cell vehicles in fleet

Delphi aims to power solid oxide fuel cell with coal
In June 2003, Delphi Corp. will demonstrate a unique innovation by powering its Solid State Energy Conversion Alliance (SECA) Generation-2 solid oxide fuel cell (SOFC) using gaseous fuel extracted from coal.
The demonstration will take place at the Power Systems Development Facility (PSDF) coal-gasification plant in Wilsonville, Alabama. This demonstration will be conducted under Delphi's existing cooperative agreement with the DOE's office of Fossil Energy/National Energy Technology Laboratory.
"Most SOFCs need fuel that is low in contaminants. Fuel purity is an issue, and this is especially true for fuel from coal. Gas cleanup processes will also be tested at the PSDF," says Dr. Jean Botti, chief technologist, Delphi's Dynamics and Propulsion Innovation Center. "Since coal is an abundant resource in the U.S., showing that a fuel cell can produce electricity from gasified coal at a competitive cost would mean that the U.S. would become less dependent on energy imports. After the demonstration, which explores what's possible with this process, further R&D could prove-out the reliability and effectiveness of high-power output from the fuel cell using gasified coal."

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:20 PM
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8. Thanks for the link. Add to the mix that China is set to surpass the US
as a consumer of oil with the geographic relation to Russia and the table is set. No wonder the Bushies want a strong foothold in the ME...

But, I believe most of us here realised that before the first bomb dropped. Now in hindsite we find more proof than we had before but far too few care.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:01 PM
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3. It's also the chosen strategy of many DUers
.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:20 PM
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11. LOL...bwahahahahahaaa....heehee....he...ho
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 07:22 PM by indigobusiness
...you're killing me here....hoho...so true.

edit to add- heh
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:02 PM
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4. We will all be living with the consequences of this fundy lunatic's
actions for the rest of our lives. Somewhere in Iraq a young child who just lost a parent in the "precision bombing' is vowing his revenge and down the road sometime, maybe in NYC, maybe in Dallas or Mineapolis or Portland - he will have his revenge.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:17 PM
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7. he will have his revenge.
attack our freaking FREEDOM????? How gosh. </sarcasm>

George Bush.... I hope you realize at night when you can't sleep just how much you have screwed up in four short years.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:08 PM
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5. History is about forgetting what we never learned in the first place.
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it.

Does anybody truly believe that humankind is more evolved or ever WILL evolve to the point where we can say we are evolved?
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:59 PM
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9. Hell this Admin would have to know it first so they could forget it.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:17 PM
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10. Or...
The bombings shall continue until morals improve.
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