We need a Tammy Fey Baker!

[liberal N proud]

We need the Evangelicals to have another Tammy and Jimmy Baker.
A scandal like that would help to wake some people up from the kool-aid induced stupor they have been on for the last 5 years.

Something exposing the evil side of these fundies, a good embezzlement scandal or even a sex scandal or two.

[Jamastiene]

1. Not Tammy Faye

She wasn't corrupt. We shouldn't blame her for her husband's wrongdoing. She's actually pretty open minded compared to fundies. Her husband on the other hand, yeah, I agree, he was a jerk. Falwell was behind their demise, btw. I wish it could be Falwell's closet unhinged and oh, the dirt that would fall out of his closet. I bet he has some hideous stuff in there. I think he is a closet case in all honesty, not that I, as a member of the gay community, would want to claim him. He's disgusting. Too manicured and feminine for a homophobe, if you ask me.

[Cooley Hurd]

2. I'd like to see a Panamanian pool boy fall out of his closet...

Betcha that would do it...:thumbsup:

[flordehinojos]

3. interesting way to describe falwell. to me he looks more like those

beer barrels -- except that his beer barrel is holding a lots of manure--in that i agree with you.

[Dogmudgeon]

4. And Jim Bakker was scapegoated

He was by no means a guy with clean hands, but I believe he was used to deflect attention from problems that surfaced over Jerry Falwell, Spanky Dobson, Oral Roberts and especially Jimmy Swaggart. If you read the reports of fundy in-fighting during that period (approx. 1985-1990), you'll see that they just about fed Bakker to the piranhas in the Press and the Department of Justice. That was also the period when Billy Graham notably broke with the "traditional" evangelicism of condemning others and proclaimed he was still growing as a Christian and had no right to promulgate divine law.

Also, a funny dirty little secret emerged: The Religious Right itself was "rent in twain". The Fundamentalists consider themselves to be the elite, and the Evangelicals are usually seen as "white trash". Falwell considers himself a Fundamentalist, while Bakker was purely an Evangelical. This is even more revealing, since it (correctly) implies that the rich kids kicked the po' li'l cracker to the curb.

I'm not trying to exonorate Jim Bakker or the Evangelicals. Jim Bakker broke the law, took the fall, and did his time. And Evangelicals still spend way too much time promoting anti-American notions like theocracy and theonomy (theocratic law). The illuminating thing about l'affaire Bakker is that it gives us a look into how the Religious Right functions. It functions a lot like a pack of sharks, complete with small brains, a keen sense of smell, and when one of their own is down, the pack turns on the wounded member in a split second.

--p!

[Dogmudgeon]

5. Also -- about Falwell

I doubt that he has any skeletons (i.e., sexual misdemeanors) in his closet. Falwell's satisfaction comes from the exercise of raw, naked, inviolable Power, which, in my opinion, is far worse.

If he lived through his penis, he would be a serial rapist at worst. As one of a small clique of religious demogogues, he has set the nation and the world on the path to a Hell devoid of sexual misbehavior, but still dedicated to misery.

--p!

[xchrom]

6. i love tammy faye!

in a word -- fabulous!

sorry not what your post was about -- but i love tammy faye!

[Jamastiene]

7. She's actually

pretty cool. Definitely not a fundy in my opinion.