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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:01 PM
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WTF- No Iran War Plan but "Everyone Knows What 'Next Steps' Means"?
Condoleezza Rice says we have no plans for war with Iran but Iran better scrap nukes or we'll start implementing "the next steps" and says she thinks we all know what "the next steps" are...

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/02/09/rice/


Confusion as Rice Backtracks in Brussels

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1483459,00.html
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:03 PM
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1. Iran is buidling an "Oil Exchange Market" to trade in Euro's...that
means ....the IPE (London Exchange) and the US (New York) exhanges will see business erosion.

this is Iraq part II. Saddam was in Euros...now Iraq is back to the dollar.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:05 PM
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2. read this entire article.... very troubling
The Real Reasons Why Iran is the Next Target: The Emerging Euro-denominated International Oil Marker

by William Clark


The Iranians are about to commit an "offense" far greater than Saddam Hussein's conversion to the euro of Iraq’s oil exports in the fall of 2000. Numerous articles have revealed Pentagon planning for operations against Iran as early as 2005. While the publicly stated reasons will be over Iran's nuclear ambitions, there are unspoken macroeconomic drivers explaining the Real Reasons regarding the 2nd stage of petrodollar warfare - Iran's upcoming euro-based oil Bourse.

In 2005-2006, The Tehran government has a developed a plan to begin competing with New York's NYMEX and London's IPE with respect to international oil trades - using a euro-denominated international oil-trading mechanism. This means that without some form of US intervention, the euro is going to establish a firm foothold in the international oil trade. Given U.S. debt levels and the stated neoconservative project for U.S. global domination, Tehran's objective constitutes an obvious encroachment on U.S. dollar supremacy in the international oil market

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http://www.energybulletin.net/2913.html
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:26 PM
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7. great article
Going to have to save it for later use. thanks
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:07 PM
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3. Rush was the first to tip us off
I don't usually listen to Rush, happened to be in a friends car, Rush was on, just before the Iraq invasion started, Rush Limbaugh made the statement, and watch the skies over Iran...wish I had written the day and month down, but you know how it is when somthing startles you,you usually don't think quickly enough.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:18 PM
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5. it's the PNAC plan....that's how he connects the dots
rush doesn't tell you about the dollar used as Oil Currency and the risk's to the US if it goes to the Euro.

Or the Iraq was on the Euro.
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judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:17 PM
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4. Besides do you all remember as I do the...
"there are no war plans against Iraq on my desk right now" that Smirkolini kept repeating in late 2002 or early 2003 ?

We cannot believe these people. It looks like they are going to attack Iran, and they will.
They don't need troops, they will just bomb the hell out of some cities claiming "surgical" strikes in order to "cripple the nuclear facilities", then claim regime change, hoping that the troops in Iraq will be ready to change venues by then.

We can't afford to be naive anymore. Remember "fool me once...etc."
How can anyone in Congress listen to this drivel (Kerry for example) and even entertain the thought...
Iran is unfortunately entitled to whatever weapons they want. They are a sovereign state, just like the US, France or Israel.

It is our responsibility to make sure that no one will want to use the weapons. But I do believe that Smirk&Co are committed to creating a world wide disaster so they can "own the world". I don't believe Peace has any benefit to them since they are war profiteers.

It's possible that we cannot stop them, just like we could not stop them on Iraq. But I sure hope that we, and the Democrats at least will loudly and strongly oppose such a crime.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:19 PM
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6. yeah, Condi, we know the whole song and dance
but what we don't know is why anyone thinks you are competent.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 02:38 PM
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8. Surprisingly, it's the truth
There is no plan.

There wasn't much of a plan for Iraq either, just drive to Baghdad, tear down a statue, guard the oil ministry, and then, uhhh...
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