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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 03:59 AM
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I'm sorry, but if you're bi-sexual, you're Gay.
not that there's anything wrong with that...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:06 AM
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:07 AM
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2. hear hear!
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Old Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:31 AM
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6. does this a lot?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:57 AM
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19. Education?
Maybe it's my perverse desire to learn about this big old world and how it's inhabitants think. Ahhh but you guys want me to "Shut up" and immerse myself in Moran America. No thanks.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:18 AM
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4. Sure.
When I modded a big list, someone mailed me privately to ask, "Is it just me, or is everyone gay here?"

So, I just said, "Yeah, we're all gay here, all of us."

Have a good night :)
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 04:35 AM
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7. Actually
Human sexually is a spectrum, not a duality. Some people are more gay than others, some can be more straight than others. Bisexual folks are more in the center.

For example, in my family, the males can identify men as handsome. They say this about certain celebrities. I am male and I lack that ability. Tom Cruise is no more handsome than Peter Jennings to me. The males in my family are straight yet they lean toward the "gay side" just enough to determine if a guy is handsome (females of my family can confirm their decisions). Thus, it's all a spectrum. Just like life.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 05:46 AM
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8. Nirvana said it best.
Everyone is gay.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 05:48 AM
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9. damn, they stole my line. @ssholes. :)
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 05:56 AM
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10. "I'm sorry but if you're bi-sexual . . .
you're . . . bisexual."

:pals:
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Patriot Acts Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:01 AM
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11. Just keep it on the down low....
....that way you wont "be gay"
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:11 AM
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15. Most bisexuals aren't PRACTICING bisexuals.
They feel the attraction to both genders, but for a whole slew of reasons, they usually settle down with one or the other.

Closet gays calling themselves "bisexual" to somehow be more palatable is a thing of the past.

People today are more uncomfortable with bisexuals than they are with either gays or straights, because their mere existence makes people question their OWN sexuality, because whether they admit it or not EVERYONE is at least a wee bit bisexual.

But whatever. If trying to pigeonhole a bunch of people you don't even know gets your rocks off, go right ahead...
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:02 AM
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12. If you're ambidextrous
you're left-handed.

If you're omnivorous, you're a vegetarian.

Something like that, right?
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:02 AM
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13. I don't give a damn what people's sexual orientation is
What matters is that they are ALL human beings just the same and should be treated equally. All are created equal.

I can't believe this country is so wrapped up over people's sexual orientation. Your religion is your business, but frankly, there are bigger issues than whether or not Adam and Steve down the street can marry here. You'd think that Osama bin Laden or the president lying to your fucking face are bigger issues, but apparently, you'd be wrong to assume so.
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Patriot Acts Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:06 AM
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14. well said
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 06:54 AM
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16. Wow, I got a whole bunch of shut ups up above didn't I....
One poster even said up above that I "did this a lot"..LOL What do I do a lot, ask tough questions? Stir the pot a bit to get opinions from smart people here at DU. Bill O'Reilly tells people to shut up, I'd think that us DUers are a little better than old Bill.
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kiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:47 AM
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22. Bill O'Reilly
also makes stupid blanket statements that he expects his audience to simply assume are true, and pre-empts any accusations that he's being offensive by saying "I'm sorry, but..." at the start.

"I'm sorry, but" read your original post. It's not a "tough question". It's not even a question.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:29 AM
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17. I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 07:45 AM
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18. The Kinsey Scale
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 07:57 AM by IanDB1
The Kinsey Scale
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In the late 1940's and early 1950's a sex researcher by the name of Dr. Alfred Kinsey and his colleagues published two books called Sexual Behavior in the Human Male and Sexual Behavior in the Human Female based on the study of human sexuality. These works are also known as the "Kinsey Reports."

One of Dr. Kinsey's most well known theories is the "Heterosexual/ Homosexual Rating Scale," which rates a person's homosexuality or heterosexuality on a 7-point continuum.

Keep in mind, however, that it is normal for a heterosexual person to have thoughts, dreams or even fantasies about members of the same sex as it is for homosexuals to have thoughts about heterosexuals. Thus, your "score" may not be a perfect 6 or 0.
<snip>

0- Exclusively heterosexual
1- Predominantly heterosexual, only incidentally homosexual
2- Predominantly heterosexual, but more than incidentally homosexual
3- Equally heterosexual and homosexual
4- Predominantly homosexual, but more than incidentally heterosexual
5- Predominantly homosexual, only incidentally heterosexual
6- Exclusively homosexual

More:
http://gaylife.about.com/cs/gay101/a/kinsey.htm

I think that "incidentally" in this case means, "having incidents of." For example, "only incidentally homosexual" would mean having sexual contact with the same-sex at least once, but less often than with opposite-sex partners.

I was thinking it might be neat to sell "Kinsey Scale Buttons" for people to pin to their shirts. It would have something like a compass needle that randomly swings from 0 to 7 and says, "Where Am I On The Kinsey Scale?"


See also:

BCN Issue 25 - Think of a number...
http://bcn.bi.org/issue25/kinsey.html

The Klein Scale and The Kinsey Scale:
http://www.biresource.org/pamphlets/klein_graph.html


OK Cupid presents The Kinsey Scale Test
http://www.okcupid.com/tests/take?testid=12690194981799252510
(On edit: That was a really lame test. I'll try to find a better one).


Also see: The Klein Scale:

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ICantBelieve Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:03 AM
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26. Thanks for posting that...
Your post says it all.

I once asked a bisexual friend how he could ever be monogamous if he was bisexual. He laughed at my ignorance. He said, "I don't know how you can ignore half the world when you're picking your spouse."
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ChairOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:26 AM
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20. Tough? Not. Even Shakespeare knew how to answer *that*.....
What’s in a name? That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:31 AM
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21. If you're bi and over 30, you're just afraid to make a commitment
You've done your exploring by then, make up your mind.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:58 AM
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24. I am so glad to have an expert opinion on DU about
human sexuality and when people should "quit exploring."

Pray tell, what else should people be done with at that age?
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:57 AM
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23. Oh my God....
Sexuality is a personal choice...

Am I "gay" because I am happily married to the cutest man I knew I would ever see again in my life, have never had lesbian sex...but can admit that I would do Salma Hayek in a skinny minute given the opportunity?

People of the opposite sex can be so sexually attractive that it matters not what one's orientation is.

That is not "gay." It is not "straight." It is BIOLOGY.

Trumad, sometimes "shutting up," just means to know what opinions you should keep to yourself in order not to cause distres for other people.

Stephanie
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 08:59 AM
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25. gee, what a coincidence
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:07 AM
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27. If you're bisexual you're human
Look, all people's sexuality exists on a scale. Its neither black or white. Some people tend to be at one end of the spectrum. Some at the other. Some even have their biological gender matching their tendency. But we all exist at different locations along that scale.
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AZCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:20 AM
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31. They have moved away from a one-dimensional sexuality scale
I don't claim to know much about this stuff, but I know a little. There has been a shift from a one-dimensional scale to a two-dimensional scale for measuring sexuality. As far as I know, Sandra Bem was the first to suggest using 2D in 1974. She used separate scales for measuring masculine and feminine traits, with participants scoring low or high on the scales. Those scoring high on both scales are androgynous and those scoring low on both are undifferentiated.

Interesting stuff, but not my area. If anyone has anything to add (or correct) I would welcome it.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:23 AM
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32. Huh?
I never have had any sexual attraction to a member of the same sex. In fact, because of what a pain in the ass relationships are I barely have attractions to too many women these days. :)
I don't buy that "everybody has fantasies" thing, but I guess if people want to believe that, it's fine by me.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:10 AM
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28. This post belongs in a different forum.....
I suggest Free Republic.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:14 AM
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29. I always say: Put 'em on the "Bi now, gay later" plan.
Edited on Tue Feb-15-05 09:18 AM by Kingshakabobo
BTW: you or I have no business telling people what they are. I'm gay and HAVE seen a lot of guys claim to be Bi only to go 100% gay later but that's not to say that every Bi person will turn 100% gay. I'm sure a lot of it has to do with closet issues and denial but there HAS to be some pure Bi people out there if you believe in the sliding scale theory.

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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:15 AM
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30. Um no. If you're bisexual, you're bisexual
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:24 AM
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33. This seems a tad out of character, trumad.
You can't be serious...
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-05 09:30 AM
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34. Locking.
This is offensive to members of the GLBT community.
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