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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:04 PM
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Okay, tin foil hatters
If you had a friend, a very close friend, but after many years your friend all of a sudden produced tapes of conversations , why would this happen? Do you hear the word bribery? or, someone did not follow the line? I wonder if the tapes and Gannon have any legs? Do you all smell a skunk? A huge skunk?
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Stop_the_War Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:05 PM
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1. Gannon recorded the tapes...hehe
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southernleftylady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:05 PM
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2. it sounds like something bush wanted out..
he sounds like a bad guy trying to go good...
"i wouldnt want them to look up to me because of my drug use"
freepers are going to say "see at least bush didnt lie about it" crap :eyes:
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:06 PM
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3. You're right.
The appearance of this taped conversation is very mysterious. Will any of the Bushbots jup on the pot admission? Remember, Clinton was a "pot-smoking draft dodger" to them.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:11 PM
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6. Not too mysterious. The guy has a book just coming out.
It's allllll about money.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:44 PM
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20. Yeah, Clinton's a pot-smoking draft dodger, and * is...
...Our Leader.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:16 PM
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25. Let's focus on pot and not the gays!
These assholes keep covering their butts.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:08 PM
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4. Well, changing the subject and self-innoulation

are always Rove tactics to be considered
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:10 PM
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5. My born-again fundie Family have already justified his past...
because chimp has accepted Christ, he is forgiven. So they could bring up ANYTHING he did in the past and the moral repugs will not care. It just makes me sick that they are that gullible.

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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:16 PM
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10. This seems to be the "scam" version of Christianity.
"I'm saved in advance, so anything I do is forgiven. Free ride!"

How does that promote spiritual behavior?
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:21 PM
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12. Saved
It will probably work for Gannon too. He will renounce his old lifestyle, be born again and forgiven.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:39 PM
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17. Hey... I didn't say I approve .....
It is just there is no argument for putting your head in the sand. That is what born agains do. They (not all,but most)really don't want to know the truth...because it may make them have to change and that would be well.... well... they can't go there.

I have just about given up on those in my Family that refuse to see the truth as it is. They only accept what they are told by their minister.

Sad but true.

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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:11 PM
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7. if the friend had a book coming out
I would think publicity was the motivating factor.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:15 PM
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8. I don't believe the tapes were recorded secretly.
They were probably recorded for subsequent release. There may be many more tapes, available for use when they will be helpful.
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uhhuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:24 PM
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13. I agree completely
As soon as I saw the reports about this, I was certain that these tapes were made FOR release.

The "revelations" seem to be carefully crafted to portray the chimp as a flawed man who found God.

The MJ use, for example, seems to be there to downplay his coke use, and also is there to act as a caution to "say no to drugs".

Ther reservations about the religious right don't mesh well with the numerous reports of these people being his mentors.

If there proof these tapes were recorded in 1998-99?

I wouldn't be shocked to find out they were recorded last year, in the WH, with Rove sitting in the corner crefting the chimp's answers.
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:42 PM
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19. I hadn't thought of that scenerio.....
mmmm.... yep... I wouldn't put it past the vile bastards.

Thanks for enlightening me. I will have to put some thought into that way of thinking. Rovian....

:toast:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:46 PM
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23. My opinion wouldn't change
even if they were recorded in 1998. Nothing like planning ahead.

All possible opinions/situations on tape. Ready for use. Nicely indexed, sitting on a shelf.

Could be.
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:16 PM
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9. Diversion.
Rove bait.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:18 PM
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11. Bingo
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:25 PM
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14. More smoke and mirrors.
Rove wouldn't let anything out that wasn't supposed to be out(except the Gannon thing which the tapes are meant to cover perhaps) The WH lack of comment about the tapes says more than anything.

Now, if we had some real tapes about Jimjeff, or Plame, or Iraq, or 9/11, or Halliburton, or ...

:tinfoilhat:
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:26 PM
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15. Rove Scam # 666
This fellow does not sound like he is ready to do a suicide caper. So, I have to assume that this is all done by order of the Rover. And doesn't our lil shrub come off as a really nice guy ??

:eyes:
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blueheeler Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:34 PM
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16. what tapes?
What have I missed? What tapes are you guys talking about?

Thanks
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Jokinomx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:46 PM
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21. blueheeler
A close friend of the bushes....."secretly" taped chimp before he was selected pResident. They aired some on the Stephenopolis show this morning. He is a minister no less... they have chimp talking "candidly" about how he felt about some sensitive issues.

I forgot the guys name...but a book is up and coming....
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blueheeler Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:59 PM
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24. wow, thanks
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:40 PM
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18. These tapes and their release is just too strange
something is so fucked up (please excuse my language) in the WH. KKkRove, can I have a word with you?

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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 06:46 PM
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22. To me the emphasis was on pot?
Explain to me the emphasis onPot? Why the emphasis?
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 07:36 PM
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26. Better still
was Bush's romancing a female interviewer on European tour--
Hey, guys--see, I'm one of you!
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GoMrGordon Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-20-05 08:22 PM
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27. MONEY!!!!!
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