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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:11 PM
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Dow suffers biggest point drop in 21 mos. (congrats to Bush and his war )
Dow suffers biggest point drop in 21 mos.
By Susan Lerner

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- U.S. stocks took a beating Tuesday with blue chips suffering their biggest losses in 21 months amid sharp declines in Home Depot (HD) and Merck (MRK) and a spike in crude-oil prices to a four-month high. The Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU) plunged 174.02 points, or 1.6 percent, to an unoffical close of 10,611.20 -- it's biggest one-day point decline since May 19, 2003. The Nasdaq Composite Index ($COMPQ) , meanwhile, logged its fourth consecutive day of losses, sliding 28.30 points, or 1.4 percent, 2,030.32 and the S&P 500 ($SPX) slid 17.42 points, or 1.5 percent, to 1,184.17.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/newsfinder/pulseone.asp?siteid=mktw&dateid=38405.6713291435-832476526&

Tell me the thought of the "Iran War" doesn't have meaning. The dollar crushed, dollar falls off a table & gold up $8 oz.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:12 PM
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1. And he wants to FORCE us to stick our retirement in that? !!!!!!!
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:13 PM
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2. he says it's "voluntary"......until it's NOT
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:13 PM
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3. Oooooh, yeah, baby
Put my social security there! I love living in a cardboard box!
:crazy:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:16 PM
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4. There was a recession a few years ago that Bush just smoke & mirrored.
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 04:16 PM by applegrove
Because he had an agenda to get through. Now the recession will be much, much worse.

Look at Bush go ::nopity:
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:18 PM
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6. And he said he inherited the recession. Never, never
will he take blame for anything. Pretty soon, though, he can't blame everything on Clinton.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:19 PM
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7. and the corporate media cartel "let him lie"
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:21 PM
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9. Bush will call it Clinton's two hump recession and his sheep...
...will believe him.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:23 PM
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10. Recession caused by overheated speculation in market. Too many dollars
chasing too few actual good business. Recessions are also normal.

Putting off a recession is quite a new one though. What a bunch of adolescents. And they have the :nuke:
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:14 PM
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24. ,...or,...a well-hidden depression,...
n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:17 PM
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5. Ha! The insiders must have bugs in the G8 bedrooms and....
...overheard them all laughing at Bush's performances. Wait until Bush meets Putin on, is it Thursday? The market will have the biggest one day tumble in both dollars and real percentage in its history!!!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:19 PM
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8. Where is that DUer who posts all the stock predictions every...
...couple of weeks? Did his numbers show this coming?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:25 PM
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11. Maybe that's why he scurried over to Europe
to kiss some European butts.

Message to Bush: "There's no such thing as a free lunch. You and your cronies thought it would be so easy to pick the low-hanging fruit in the various countries where there are large deposits of oil and natural gas. It seemed so easy.

But because there are people living on top of that oil, and because we're ONE WORLD, one humanity, and everything is interconnected, everything you do will have a ripple effect, big or small".

It's called the Butterfly Effect.

Question: if a butterfly flaps its wings in Brazil, will it have an effect on the rest of the world?

Answer: yes.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:29 PM
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13. I seriously think the "RItter leak" on the Iran war spooked the dollar and
oil and gold...market fell apart


Again...it all comes down to bush policy failures.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:28 PM
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12. And 20 years from now . . .
Today's the day your private account has to be indexed. Oops, you just lost $75 a month off your private account. For life. Too bad, so sad.

And no, there's no one you'll be able to sue, and nothing you can do to recoup that loss. There has to be a drop-dead date some time, and if yours happens on a day the Dow closes down 174.02, well . . . Bummer, dude.

But the brokerage firm that handles your account will get its full commission. Isn't that nice?
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:37 PM
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14. Is it the old "Inverted Yield Curve" predicting a Bush Recession?
-- we now have it with an "Inverted Yield Curve" on corporate bonds. Some economists say it is a 100% accurate predictor of recessions.
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:37 PM
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15. Just 2 weeks ago I heard on TV that the stock market was going to
get some traction for positive gains because of positive economic news that was expected last week. Oops wrong again. Damn I hate it when the TV lies to me! :eyes:
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:38 PM
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16. 1.6% Big Fat Hairy Deal
Wake me up when it gets to 22.9%


It doesn't make good headlines, but one needs to look at the fundamentals.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:03 PM
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19. The fundamentals..
.... include spiraling oil prices and an inverted bond yield curve.

Not good.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 05:23 PM
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20. 80 million bbl/day fundamental
This looks like a single issue reaction. Specifically to nervous traders in the energy sector and the lack of spare capacity in global crude oil production.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 06:53 PM
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21. Perhaps you are aware...
.. of the devastating inflation-inducing effect rising energy prices have.

Virtually every single product you buy is affected.

Wall Street is damn right to worry about high oil prices, they are very bad for our economy.
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One_Life_To_Give Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:29 AM
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29. Yeah, Oil is a news story in itself.
But is a one day move of 1.6% really that much of a story?
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:19 PM
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25. Ahhhh, yes. The fundamentals. Those numbers manipulated,...
,...ON PURPOSE, in order to prevent depression panic.

Those must be the "fundamentals" you speak of,...the ones with creative calculations being superimposed on real numbers.

:eyes:
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:39 PM
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17. So, is this the beginning of the slide into depression?
I figured a crash to be the October surprise last year, so this is overdue in my opinion.
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kazoo35 Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:13 PM
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23. Not yet. We've got another year of this bullshit before it gets serious.
This was about the earthquake in Iran and possible effects to global oil supply.

Note that there doesn't seem to be any spare capacity laying around anywhere to pick up the slack.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 04:53 PM
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18. And this is the safe investment for our kids' SS. n/t
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:11 PM
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22. This sucks! My God when is this economic disaster ever going
to end?
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charles_nys Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 08:43 AM
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30. Hate to tell ya but ......
the real economic diaster hasn't even started yet. This is nothing compared to how bad bush is going to sink us.





We're so f*ed!


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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:31 PM
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26. This is not good.
South Korea's central bank said on Monday it planned to diversify its reserves, the world's fourth largest, into a greater variety of currencies.

The move by South Korea fueled speculation that other central banks would follow suit. Fears of a weaker dollar diminishes foreign investors' appetite for U.S. assets.
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/breaking/breakingnewsarticle.asp?feed=OBR&Date=20050222&ID=4259824

If this trend were to spread the we would be in big trouble.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:35 PM
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27. under President Clinton, the DOW topped 11,700...slid down continuously
Edited on Tue Feb-22-05 07:37 PM by diamond14

since bush* stole office...overall, sliding for more than four years, currently down 1100 points from Clinton.....and nobody wants to mention that....hell, if you had money invested in the DOW during Clinton, it's now worth 9.3 % LESS....hmmmm.....some people must be really MAD about the bush* economy....where all your investments go DOWN DOWN DOWN....I'm surprised that the retirees haven't been POUNDING ON THE WHITE HOUSE GATES to throw the fool out of office....
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-22-05 07:42 PM
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28. What's Wall Streets problem
they got the regime they wanted, now they aren't happy. :shrug:
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