The Toughest Women are from the South

[Clark2008]

Flame bait, I'm sure.

But, seriously, y'all gals up North got it EASY.

We women down South have to overcome being women at home AND being women on the job.

And, not only that, you've got decent men to choose from. We've got ... ooohhh, do I really wanna go there. :puke:

So, my sisters up North... you're great and, I for one, love you chickas to pieces, but we'd kick your butts in a survival contest any ole day. ;)

[SoCalDem]

1. Okay I'll choose the parameters..

Snow/ sleet and 10 below :)

[Clark2008]

2. As long as no one's driving, it's OK

eom

[sasquatch]

3. The cold up north makes northern women pretty hard too

[Clark2008]

4. Yeah, but y'all have decent men....

You didn't get that part of the post.

We have to do it ALL for ourselves.

[kaitykaity]

5. Seven years in Oklahoma was enough for me.

Seven years in Oklahoma was enough for me.
And now all my immediate family's dead so I
never ever have to go back.

Thank Gawd for the interstate highway system,
Greyhound, the US Army (which I joined to get
out), and airports.

[Clark2008]

6. OMG!

You joined the ARMY to get out!

Jebus!! I was joking - but, hell... you know... it is tough down here for us females - makin' about half the pay.

Thank you for your service. Bless you.

(We Southern women are strong, but not selfish, too - just so you know that)

[kaitykaity]

15. A babe of 17, picked up that M-16, said sir, yes sir, and

buh-bye to tornadoes, racist relatives, and
handsy men in my family who thought the fondling my
14-year-old tits was a great way to pass the time
at family reunions.

And yes, I had a special fondess for the General
Clark during the primaries. He was my second.
Handsome, articulate. Oh my.

[Clark2008]

26. Oh, geez...

I hope you are well away from those creeps now.

I hope, also, that you are safe.

[kaitykaity]

28. Safe, single, alone in my peace and quiet,

All of those things. Yes ma'am.

Thanks.

:)

[Skittles]

7. believe me honey

I've lived north and south and women put up with tons of shit EVERYWHERE - and southern women would squawk the first time it got below 40 degrees

[Clark2008]

8. And Northern women squawk at our humidity

Wanna come push-mow my lawn in July?

I didn't think so. But I have to - I can't afford to hire someone else to do it.

Don't give me weather shit. That's not relevant. I'm talkin' culture.

[Skittles]

9. HELLO I live in TEXAS

I've put up with 100+ degrees for over 30 days straight but watch these assholes here on a quarter inch of ice - f'ing pitiful. Culture-wise northerers rule too.

[Clark2008]

10. HELLO - we get no practice on snow OR ice

Did you MOW - did you get outside your house longer than it took to get to your car?

Look, lady - tough is dealing with people like you who hate us because we're Southern. See?

I don't hate black people or Native Americans or anyone - but I bet you think I do because I'm from here. Right?

Try dealing with that, anywhere you go. Or that you're stupid because you have a drawl. Also not true.

Ice, schmice.

[Hardrada]

12. People to prove your point

Lilian Carter
Eudora Welty

[Clark2008]

14. Thank you.

I LOVE the Carters, btw.
I think the Carters were the only true Christians in the White House in my life time (I was born in 1970).

[Skittles]

30. I LIVED IN THE COUNTRY

I HAD TO MOW A FREAKING ACRE OF LAWN. We don't hate you because you're southern, we hate you because you are ARROGANT about being southern. I am not northern or southern; I was raised everywhere as a GI brat, including England, and have lived north AND south in America. After nearly 30 years of living south I can tell you I do NOT think the women here are "STRONGER" than the women anywhere else.

[Clark2008]

39. I mow an acre of lawn, too.

And, I don't hate you.
You're totally MISSING the point of this thread.
The point is that there is so much Southern-bashing here, it's pathetic. You just proved it.

[seabeyond]

44. 80's on saturday, today 6" and still snowing

what is that, lo lol

a calif girl living in texas, the women may be tough but this calif girl can take on any ole texas man and whoop his butt

[Syrinx]

11. go north then

If you think southern men are so bad. Go be roommates with my cousin in Ohio whose husband left her for a younger woman.

[Clark2008]

13. That's the Bear, whom I respect, even thought I'm a General Neyland

gal.

And I see your point.

But, in all seriousness, I'm an attractive 35-year-old woman who hasn't met a decent man in my area in about 5 years.

I'm sure there are jerks everywhere. But, I think Northern women have more of a variety to choose from.

[xmas74]

18. There are no decent men in my area either.

They all have the same mentality.
I lived in the North and now I live in MO. I can handle any type of weather. The men in the North were a little bit better-and my cousins seem to do fine w/ promotions (compared to myself).
I don't know-they both have drawbacks.

[Syrinx]

21. well, that's okay

If that's how you see it. But there's enough bay-staters and such criticizing southerners all day long everyday that it hurts to see one of our own turn against us. I'm not rich, and not very good looking, but if you're ever in Tuscaloosa, I'll be glad to buy you a cup of coffee. :)

[Clark2008]

22. OK, now... I just sent you a PM

I'm not "anti Southern man" at all.
I just don't know any who aren't, well, weird.
My liberal friends - the men are waaaaayyyyy off - I don't be wantin' to sleep around.
Mostly who I meet are VERY scared that I have a political leaning, at all, ESPECIALLY Democrat.
Most good men I know, are married to the good Dem women I know. ;)

[Hardrada]

24. I would like to get into this a bit more in depth.

Is not the South the section of the country where Chivalry was a virtue and a lady was respected etc. Did I miss something? Did that era depart?

[Clark2008]

25. Chivarly is dead

Yes.

Try being a lady.

I get asked out on... um... let's see... the last date I had was... um...

Yeah, you get the picture. And I will say, I'm not ugly. I'm not Naomi Campbell or even Angelina Jolie (my God, who is! The woman is gorgeous!), but it's not looks.

Seriously, when I do get asked out, it's a meat market. Criminy!

[Hardrada]

27. Sorry to hear that

But even here in Iowa, some younger women we know (later 20's) are amazed when they find a date who isn't a jerk! Maybe it's partly a generational thing. These are attractive women too and I feel anyone who is a jerk to them is also one beer short of a six pack since he will not get a second date.

[quaoar]

50. So stop being so demure

Southern women are a lot more cunning than Yankee women. Women up north will come straight at you. Southern women circle around you for a while before moving in.

There's really no need for you not to adopt the Yankee approach. If you meet a guy you're interested in, ask him out instead of waiting for him to ask you.

This Southern man has always found that refreshing.

And if the guy is turned off because a woman asked him out, then you probably wouldn't want him anyway.

[sonicx]

16. Actually, the toughest woman are from developing countries...

You think you have it tough?

[Clark2008]

17. You are correct

(I don't do well at flame bait, do I?)

My former mother-in-law was Palestinian and her first husband was killed in the move for Israel.

My point is that I'm TIRED of all the bullshit about Southerners. We're not all "Yeeee-Haawwww is a foreign policy!"

[sonicx]

19. i know. it's not nice.

i try to attack Bush supporting people no matter where they live. :hi:

[applegrove]

20. If Bush's plans go through for ripping apart the hard won social

fabric in 7 years... we will all be a whole lot tougher.

The girls at the turn of the century gave birth at home - right there in that bed 10 times in a row and then went right on out and made drinking alcohol illegal in the rare free time they had. Forty grandchildren and no alcohol. The day will soon be.

Tell that to the NASCAR dads!

[Clark2008]

23. Your irony is grand!!

I love it!

:D

[mordarlar]

29. Having dealt with a a hefty chuck of survival in my life, i will say the

grass, whatever the temp when you mow it, IS ALWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE.

[TWiley]

32. The grass may be greener, but it is also tougher to mow.

[JNelson6563]

31. Whatever

Ever chop wood to stay warm in sub-zero temps? Every have to plow through feet of snow to rush your kid to the hospital?

Bring on your contest any day.

Julie

[TWiley]

34. Now that is a visual.

Julie whacking away at at a pile of logs with the chips flying. I would bet on you any day sweetie. =:>)

[Clark2008]

41. Actually, yes, to the first

It DOES get cold down here, you know.

Now, it doesn't snow often, but we do have sub-zero temps. However, we also have humidity levels of 100 percent in 100-degree weather, too.

And, you're missing the point, as well.

It's the ATTITUDE of most of the people on this forum AGAINST Southerners. Not only do we have it rough, like women all over these great states, but we also have to deal with prejudices that are unjustified.

[Thtwudbeme]

33. The only thing Southern women do better than Yankees

is drink. And I mean hold your liquor....Southern women can have a couple of beers, then go out to the parking lot, stick a straw in a gas tank, suck it dry...and drive home.

Yankee women cannot hold their liquor as well...

My theory is that we have generations of history of outdoor sporting events that produced this "drinking gene." Yankee women either stay home and drink in the middle of winter, or in the big cities, walk to the pub.

[MadHound]

35. Sorry, but I'll put my grandmother up against any Southern woman

6'1" and tons of fun, worked as a grocer/butcher, had heard own store during the Great Depression. Raised three men, two women, and lost one child in infancy. Outlived my grandfather, who she divorced because he was being a dog, but remarried because she really did love him. Had a set of butchering knives, including a cleaver that she wielded with great vigor when she was pissed at something. Lived to be ninety six years old, and was full of piss and vinegar until the day she died. God love her, she and my Mom were very strong women, and made me appreciate all strong, independent women, such as my wife, who is the most wonderful woman on the face of this planet, bar none. There is another strong woman, but I'll stop now, it wouldn't be fair to tag team you.

[soup]

37. Go for it, MadHound.

:bounce: :-)

I'd have loved to have known your grandmother. Thank you for introducing her here.

Sounds like she was a pistol. I think that's the right phrase? I'm sure she'd have been who she was, north or south. 96? wow. If you share more of her with us here, I hope I catch your posting.

[Clark2008]

40. I'm supposed to be intimidated by a tall woman?

Look, honey, I'm only 5'1" and if I got intimidated by anyone taller than me, I'd be intimidated by most of the country.

I'm a strong, independent woman and I'm making in down here BY MYSELF. I don't think many women could do that - we have it harder in the South, a lot of times because of the very people who are "presuming" things in this forum. We're not stupid and we're not ignorant just because we live below the Mason-Dixon line.

I'm sure your family and your wife are wonderful, but I don't feel "tag teamed" in the least.

[MadHound]

43. Height has nothing to do with it

And I'm not saying it does, nor am I saying that you aren't tough. But where you live quite frankly has nothing to do with it either friend. You gotta be a tough women to live in the inner city. You've gotta be tough to live in the South. Quite frankly, to be a woman, unless you've got money, you have to be tough period.

What I am saying is that my grandmother ran her own shop, including defending it from thieves, in urban St. Louis, raised her family, by herself, during the Great Depression. Now quite frankly, until you walk in her shoes, or the shoes of any poor woman no matter where they live, then you have little room to crow.

Or better yet, try being poor and rural, back in the day. Your husband handled the plow, his wife had to pull. You think you've got it bad now, sheeiit. You've got a car, access to a phone, and other modern convienances, even if you do live in the South. Think about the women who've come before you, or the women who live in third world countries, living hand to mouth. Then talk to me about tough.

You're making it by yourself, congratulations. You're doing the same thing that millions of women all over this country are doing. Yes, it is something special, and something to be proud of, but don't pretend that you are somehow unique just because you're doing it in the South.

[soup]

36. oh, fer cryin out loud.

I've done both. lived both north -30 years- and south -20 years-.

I've
lived with only wood heat in the north
post and poled to survive one year in the mountains
lived through blizzards

I've
lived a few years with no air conditioning in the south
ran a lawn service to survive through Florida summers
lived through hurricanes

The whole weather argument is ridiculous.

The man-thing? I don't know. Jerks are jerks wherever they reside. Good guys are good guys no matter where they call home. Are there more good men here or there? I don't know. Doubt it. But one thing I will say is if you live in a solidly red area, then, that's probably going to be the political persuasion of most of the people you meet.

wage discrepancies? Are you taking into consideration COL differences?
Do women who live in the northern states make more than those in southern states? How about rent? groceries? transportation? There's just too many variables here.

There may be a valid argument that women in the north have a better chance for advancement in the workplace. I don't know. The only office environment I've worked in here was mostly very capable women top to bottom.

It's way too early in the day for this. Sorry if I've offended anyone. need coffee.

[DivinBreuvage]

38. EVERYTHING in the South is better than it is anywhere else

but don't take my word for it, ask a Southerner.

And things are even more gooder in Texas.

[johnnie]

42. Heh

That was funny..thanks for the morning smile.

[madhat]

45. You could be correct

But by your logic, the toughest women are in Saudi Arabia.

[Bouncy Ball]

46. Why is this necessary?

Seriously. This is just flamebait. I'm just glad to see not too many have taken it.

[seabeyond]

47. playing, a funny....i dont take it seriously, you? n/t

[Bouncy Ball]

48. We all know how bad the south vs. north stuff has been around here.

She even admits it's flamebait.

[annarbor]

49. What if.....

I was born in Detroit but spent time down South in the Marine Corps? What category do I fall into?
And by the way, the weather down South may be hot and humid, but has anyone spent a bone chilling Winter in Michigan, combined with a hot and humid Summer? Now that's what makes us Northern girls tough :)

Ann Arbor

[Blue_Roses]

51. remember the movie, "Steel Magnolias"?

this spoke of the tradition of southern women. While my mother is a hard-working southern woman, I know there are many hard-working northern women too. Let's just say being a woman is hard, especially when you have to birth the kids, raise the husband, cook the meals, wash and fold the clothes, mop the floor, wash the dishes, scrub red-colored crayon off your white walls because of your 2 year-olds artwork, deal with attitudes of your teens, and last but not least--menopause. Phew...

Yes, being a woman is hard work :D