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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:33 PM
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Malloy just totally DISSED NYT's Dowd
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 11:33 PM by Tamyrlin79
He read her column last week that decided that we were living in a theocracy. And Malloy had a "No Shit, Sherlock" moment. Then castigated her for her articles slamming Clinton and Gore (particularly Gore in 2000), and ended with (paraphrased) "So next time you want to complain about theocracy...consider your own part in it."

At least Dowd seems to have seen the Light, though... Better late than never.

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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:35 PM
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1. Dowd is kinda sketchy in my book...
...Lately she's been on our side, but she still seems a bit...ditzy, I guess. :shrug:
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:38 PM
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2. She is imbedded in the state structure
and is constantly indoctrinated by it. She is unable to be objective, a fact for which she certainly should be critisized for, but it is understandable and unlike so many of the horrible people who make up the institutions of wealth and power in this country, she does earnestly mean to be a good liberal.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:39 AM
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14. She is snarky for snarky's sake.
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 12:42 AM by tblue37
Mo Dowd is about Mo Dowd. Period.

She reminds me of Tweety in the sense that sometimes she writes something that seems to support our side, but she will then turn around and write something that undercuts the liberal stance or liberal leaders.

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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:39 PM
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3. Maureen Dowd is one strange lady! When I saw her----------
on Letterman I was stunned.She really is weird.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:46 PM
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4. She wrote a whole column about Wes Clark's sweater
and whether it was to gain women voters.
Ummm... It was winter in New Hampshire. Duh.
So, yeah, Malloy is correct - she picks on Dems for banal issues and smears them and then wonders why we're living in a theocracy?
:eyes: hoooo-boy
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starwolf Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:46 PM
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5. Nothing but a useless gadfly
into selling herself and her media of the moment. Unfortunately she is in a protected seat and is unlikely to be replaced or augmented
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:47 PM
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6. Malloy outweirds Dowd by a factor of ten. At least Dowd is in the fight.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 11:48 PM by FreepFryer
Malloy's catchphrases of late center around how hopeless and lost we are. I'd rather read a columnist with a few interesting insider observations than listen to Malloy essentially suck all the hope out of the room each time.

Seriously - I'm not trying to be contrary, but have you ever listened to a Malloy show and felt hopeful and motivated?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:21 AM
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10. If you don't think Malloy's in the fight...
You're not paying attention.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:28 AM
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11. He describes our cause as 'lost', not 'winnable'. That was my point.
Care to respond intelligently?
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:35 AM
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12. He's given up on the DNC leadership - with good reason.
Ennabling the Fascist Neo-Cons to destroy the constitution and sign on to the Orwellian fake war of terror...

I think Mike has a point.

It's time for a new progressive movement - independent of the Corporate-mobbed up Dems so prevalent today.

In short - The Revolution Starts Now.

Mike's an old man - he's just speaking the truth and desperately trying to light a fire under the disaffected Dems and Progressives who are the future - surely, pointing out the truth about "The Best Democracy Money Can Buy" is valuable in and of its self.

His activist days are ebbing - he's a spokesman for us truth seekers - but it's up to US to change the world.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 12:39 AM
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13. That much I agree with - except his show is often about him
with a few likewise depressed listeners, followed by angry naysaying of an optimistic listener.

Imho, his opinions of the DNC aside, he needs to find ways to inspire truth seeking by progressives rather than disinspire it with his 'aging activist' negativism.

Good post, btw.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:11 PM
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22. yes, let's keep it phony...because it makes me feel good...what a joke!!!
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 07:54 PM
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25. If you meant your point was a joke, I agree.
If you are going to motivate revolution, you have to find a way to connect and inspire change.

Malloy doesn't do that - he just riles people up without clear avenues for their anger. There's little difference between him doing that and Rush Limbaugh doing that... in both cases entertainment wins over substantive change.

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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:09 PM
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20. All the time...Malloy is the Best and a fighter long before you cast your
first moderate vote.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 07:55 PM
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26. You presume incorrectly... and I don't care about his politics, but
I do care about his effect.

Right now, he hasn't motivated his listeners the way he could, if he had anything more to say than "we're doomed and you people have to fix it".
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:48 PM
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7. I'm Glad She & Others
are being called on their contribution to the current state of affairs. And if I remember correctly it took her a while to catch on to ***Hco. Another of those too little too late tales. Good for Mike. Would also like to know if Dowd talks to Miller and what she has to say about that can of worms.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:48 PM
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8. And that's what's wrong with Malloy.
Edited on Tue Mar-29-05 11:50 PM by LoZoccolo
Absolutely no sense in bringing up all that past stuff other than to stroke off his listeners with his two minutes hate. No sense at all.

Did I happen to mention I think his show is full of shit?
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:37 PM
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16. Did I mention we could give a rats ass what you think of Malloy!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:08 PM
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19. You could mention it, but I wouldn't believe it.
Exhibit A: your post.
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Tamyrlin79 Donating Member (944 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:00 PM
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17. I think malloy is just as desperate and frustrated as we all are.
Can you blame him for letting it show?

Personally, I don't like the "well, its useless" tack malloy has, but his insights into things are usually dead on. And just because he's a cynical pessimist, doesn't mean he's wrong. I think of listening to malloy as a way of exorcising my own desperation and frustration...giving it an outlet, so to speak.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:10 PM
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21. Oh, I'd believe he reflects a lot of personal feelings people have.
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 05:10 PM by LoZoccolo
I'd just rather have some leadership than someone profiting off a circle-jerk of paranoid rage every evening on the only liberal radio network out there.
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FreepFryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 07:56 PM
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27. Hear, hear! (n/t)
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-05 11:49 PM
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9. I would like for one of these people
like Modo to come out and say, "Jesus, I am really sorry I helped get this drooling moron elected".
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:21 PM
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15. MoDo works both sides of the street. She got called on it. (eom)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:03 PM
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18. But she will fall back into the darkness on a whim.
Bartcop is right: she hates everybody.
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KlatooBNikto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:13 PM
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23. MoDo is only for one person 24/7/365.It is herself.Nothing else matters.
What fine turn of phrase she can invent, how she can impress herself by going to trendy places, meet trendy people and mix trivia with a little bit of serious stuff. Her whole shtick was to get the "woman's point of view" across to NYT readers.As if in War and Peace there is a difference.

Malloy is being entirely too charitable to a worthless egotist.
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Lab2112 Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 05:17 PM
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24. RE: Malloy just totally DISSED NYT's Dowd
Although I can't recall the title of the Op-Ed in question, I can still remember with disblief Dowd's pointless mocking of Al Gore's bald spot, and that all the Rogaine in the world won't help. My reaction was "and...? What does this have to do with Gore's qualification against Bush in 2000?"

*sigh*

LAB

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