Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

My hope for the Terri Schiavo situation

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:23 PM
Original message
My hope for the Terri Schiavo situation
I wish that the fact that it was Terri's bulimia that brought about this sad situation got more airplay. In high school, my best friend was a girl with very severe eating disorders (she practiced both anorexia and bulimia, which I understand is not at all unusual). She died of a heart attack at the age of 21, only a few years after Terri had her heart attack.

I am especially disheartened to learn that there is now a rather sizeable community of people with eating disorders on the web who embrace having an eating disorder and even trade tips and tricks on weight loss. Google the term "ana +mia" for a sad shock.

We've concentrated on obesity as a problem in this country, which it is, but eating disorders can and do kill. I hope that the Terri Schiavo situation can not only be used to educate people about the need for living wills but to educate people about the effects of eating disorders on the body.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:24 PM
Response to Original message
1. that's not true
her husband beat her into that condition... or so some peopLe are saying.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:24 PM
Response to Original message
2. I agree
there are SO many important things NOT being discussed about this case. Eating disorders is one of them, and for the life of me, I can't figure out why nobody is discussing euthanasia. If ever a case called out for a quick, painless cessation of life, this is one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Thank the anti-choice contingency for that one
They've created a situation where withdrawing life support is the only way to allow someone a death with dignity in Florida, then they complain about how barbaric it is. That's some nerve.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
3. they were talking about it on franken
and emphasizing that the separation between mental health and physical health is completely arbitrary and ridiculous.
at the very least i wish it would get out more, so people will stop filling in the blanks with, 'maybe michael did something to her.'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:03 PM
Response to Original message
5. thanks for telling me about "ana+mia"
Yikes is all I can say.

I have a niece that is 20 years old almost now and she (last I heard) weighs 90 lbs. and is 5'8" tall.

I just found her as a marathon runner (came in 198 out of 247 people) in a race!

I fear she is an anorexic!

Thanks again for this info. I had no idea!

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Whoa, that's about 50 pounds underweight.
Any way you can discuss this with her parents? That is dangerously thin.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. nope I cannot!
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 02:32 PM by CountAllVotes
It is totally frustrating. They have never allowed me to see this young woman. I've seen her once in person at about age 6. That was it. I found out about the weight thing accidentally. I found a picture of her and OMG! I couldn't believe it.

I blame this on her mother! She passed out at the wedding after purging herself for days to fit into that nice very little wedding dress. She taught my niece the same tricks apparently. Her mother boasts about the fact that she is a size 1 and DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? she says. Yeah I know what that means MOMMIE DEAREST! :(

Very sad and I am powerless.

Now she is in college. As far as the marathon racing goes now, I had no clue about the reality of it until I found her on google.com. :(

When I was her age I weighed about 150 lbs. which is the standard woman weight in my family.

You are right, it is dangerously thin. I was told not to mention her weight and to shut-up about it. :grr:

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:43 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. My friend was 5'4" with a goal weight of 67 pounds at one point
Her parents hospitalized her on a number of occasions, especially after a fainting episode at school. She would kind of get her act together, then her weight would take a nose-dive. She was in and out of the hospital so much she ended up getting her GED instead of graduating. We both went to school together, but the stress really sent her into a tail-spin and mid-way through winter term, her parents came and got her. We stayed in contact off and on over the next couple of years. The last time I saw her, she looked pretty good, at about 120 pounds, which was about the most she'd ever weighed. She had her heart attack six months later. I'll never forget how haunted her mother and father looked at the funeral.

I think your neice is courting disaster.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #11
13. well I am prepared for the worst
I was told she "picks at food" (you never see her ever really eat) and that this marathon racing was a new "skill" that had emerged. If she was a great marathon runner she'd have come in alot better than the end of the pack I'd say.

While she courts disaster, the family acts like everything is just perfect. Needless to say they are a batch of mindless pukes.

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. How sad
She may have come in so far back out of sheer weakness. Your body must have energy to create muscles, after all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. I do know she was "excused" from phys. ed. for awhile
Why I don't know. However at the age of 12 she still had to ride in a car seat because she weighed less than 50 lbs. I was told.

Oh God, I feel so sick about this! I wouldn't recognize my niece if she came to the door being I've been kept away from her my entire life. I have a strong feeling you are right! :(

Thanks for the input.

:kick:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:25 PM
Response to Original message
7. an excellent point.
Would that it had been talked about more.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:28 PM
Response to Original message
8. Wasn't the death of Karen Carpentar (sp?)
hastened by a long bout of eating disorders which greatly weakened her body? Yes, this is a conversation that is greatly needed.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. yes that is what killed Karen Carpenter
Very sad - severe eating disorder. I cannot remember the details exactly, either anorexic or bulimic or both - ?

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. Alot of people use both
They'll deny themselves food for long periods, then engage in binging and purging for a few weeks, then go back into drastic dieting. In my friend's case, she got the idea of binging and purging while in treatment for anorexia- one of the other girls told her it was a good way to get her family and friends off her back for how little she was eating.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. well in the case I've mentioned
The mother is to blame for she practices the same "techiniques". Btw ... she looks like shit warmed over after doing this on and off for probably most of her wretched life. Frankly, I hate the bitch (wouldn't you?)!

:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:09 PM
Response to Reply #8
19. Karen Carpenter was Anorexic
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 03:10 PM by Danmel
She was skeletal just before she died. Many bulimics are of normal body weight which is one of the reasons they are able to keep their conditions hidden with greater frequesncy than anorexics. The signs are more subtle.

Eating disorders have the highest fatality rates of all mental illnesses. It is very sad that the opportunity to educate people about these dangers is subsumed by the right wing frenzy and the hatred the family members have toward each other.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:06 PM
Response to Original message
17. That group of girls are sick
I've read up a little on them - they actually were pissed that Mary-Kate Olsen actually got help for her eating disorder. They thought she was a role model

:eyes:

It's important that the dangers of eating disorders (all of them including overeating & obsesity) are kept in the public limelight!!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:06 PM
Response to Original message
18. Yes, this is what we should be talking about
Anorexia and Bulimia are both horrible diseases that women and men suffer from.

Terri should be a sign to what can happen if you continue to live this type of life.

My good friend when I was growing up suffered from anorexia. It started when she was about 13. I knew about it, but being so young, I couldn't handle it. I'd tell her she should eat, but that's all I could do. Her problems stemmed from a molestation at a young age. Her parents finally intervened when we were in high school. Alison had intensive therapy for years, and when we were seniors, her goal was to eventually start a camp to help other girls.

And another girl that was in orchestra with me, also suffered from anorexia. She was skin and bones, and did look like a concentration camp victim. Her parents had intervened when she was 15, I think, and she was a sign to what not to do with your body. And she spoke about it to others.

These are secret disease. It's understandable that family members don't know, because they're so good at hiding it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 03:10 PM
Response to Original message
20. That is an excellent point
I have educated more than one person about the underlying reason for Terri Schiavo's condition - not one single person I've talked to about it has known. Most assume car accident or something similar.

It is definitely something people need to be educated about. Most people seem to think it's just a matter of counseling and eating more - they don't realize the damage it does to the body and organs and the dangers that poses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC