Kerry and Kennedy D (MA)

[sallyseven]

will attend the funeral in Rome for Pope Paul II. They were invited to attend. Take that bush you loser.

[caligirl]

1. Maybe Carter should go with them, bush is a loser

[newscott]

2. I hope he does.

[4_Legs_Good]

9. Me too. What's up with Carter

He hasn't been mentioned, but if anyone has credentials close to JPII's on human rights, it's President Carter.

Why no mention of him? (sorry I've missed any discussion on the matter thus far)

david

[Catch22Dem]

10. Bush denied him as a member of the official delegation.

[4_Legs_Good]

12. just read the Drudge thread

F*cking prick (GWB)

david

[FreedomAngel82]

17. Weren't they also good pals?

[DemBeans]

20. I doubt he will...

I think Carter is still pissed at Kennedy from 1980. I don't think there's a lot of love lost between the two of them (although now might be a good time to heal those wounds).

[UCLA Dem]

4. Definitely. Who'd want to go with Shrubs anyway??

[4morewars]

3. They should bring Jimmy Carter with them.

He stood down from the bush* delegation to make room for condiliar rice.

[sallyseven]

5. I think that John Paul II was a democrat

[UCLA Dem]

6. Definitely a populist in many ways.

Though his views on women's issues could stand some revisions.

[sallyseven]

11. It takes time

He at least was not a big chauvinist. He respected women and the Virgin Mary was someone he cared about. His mother died when he was very young so I think he had an affinity to women and missed them. Don't forget he was 84 and grew up in a different time. He also grew up in the catholic church and they didn't care much for women. Like the Repukes they don't like women they are afraid of them.

[LittleClarkie]

22. He was neither and both

He was anti-war, but also pro-life. If you're going to be pro-life, then it makes sense to be anti-war. I admire the Catholics who understand that.

So depending what the issue was, he either agreed with the peaceniks, or with some of the more Conservative folk. It depended. He had his moments, did JPII.

Good grief, I almost typed, "He had his moments, he had some style."

No, no, Bush is Evita, not the pope! Bush is the one on his Rainbow tour, even though the Pope is going out Evita-style. Or maybe it was Evita who went out Pope-style.

I'm confused. And probably going to hell.

[fooj]

14. You mean the "Dominatrix Diva", right?

Shameless hypocrites! I think Carter should hitch a ride with his fellow dems and screw those misfits!

Peace!

[FreedomAngel82]

18. I would

I'd rather go with Kerry and Kennedy. Probably have better conversations on the ride and better company. Plus you don't have to worry about Bush trying to get in the front. :eyes:

[Arkana]

19. There's also the added bonus

of Dubya not giving them all infantile nicknames cause he's too fucking stupid to remember their actual names.

[Placebo]

7. Links:

http://www.wrgb.com/news/regional/regional.asp?selection=article_32117

http://www.wlbz2.com/home/article.asp?id=21525

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050405/ap_on_go_co/pope_congress_2

They are going as part of a congressional delegation, so it's unlikely that Carter will be able to tag along.

[caligirl]

8. I feel realy strongly about this, I left a msg at the Carter center in

the general mailbox. They reopen at 8 or 8:30 tomorrow.

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[Catt03]

13. Maybe Clinton should go with them instead of the Republicans

[fooj]

15. You think?

Peace!

[caligirl]

16. I'm not liking that at all. Bill is spending to much time withthe *'s

[osaMABUSh]

21. Has anybody seen Kerry speak on the Pope on TV?

Being Catholic I would think Kerry would be asked his opinion.

BTW, in the sea of Pope Tribute Specials on TV, PBS had a good, two-hour, in-depth look at the man and Pope: Witness to Hope
a biography of Pope John Paul II. In 1978, the Polish-born pontiff (formerly Karol Jozef Wojtyla) became the first non-Italian pope since the Dutch-bred Adrian VI in 1522.


Paints a picture of his life in Poland: WWII, communism, his incredible will and intellect nd the development of his philosophies. I think John Paul II will be remembered in history along side Gandhi, Mandela, MLK, etc. as men who brought about enormous change through peaceful means.