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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 06:56 AM
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US accused of seizing Iraqi women to force fugitive relatives to give up
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1456773,00.html

disgusting!

American forces were yesterday accused of violating international law by taking two Iraqi women hostage in a bungled effort to persuade fugitive male relatives to surrender.

US soldiers seized a mother and daughter from their home in Baghdad two weeks ago and allegedly left a note on the gate: "Be a man Muhammad Mukhlif and give yourself up and then we will release your sisters. Otherwise they will spend a long time in detention."

It was signed Bandit 6, apparently a military code, and gave a mobile phone number. When phoned by reporters an American soldier answered but he declined to take questions and hung up.

Salima al-Batawi, 60, and her daughter Aliya, 35, were blindfolded, handcuffed and driven away in a Humvee convoy on April 2, leaving the Arab Sunnis of Taji, a suburb north of the capital, incandescent.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 06:58 AM
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1. It's really hard to be supportive of this kind of crap.
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atommom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:00 AM
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2. But according to our government, those international laws don't
apply to us! :eyes: Honestly, I don't know how Bush can expect other nations to respect us, when he insists on operating outside the law.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:03 AM
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3. Sounds more like the Mob than the military
Though sometimes I wonder whether there's any difference.
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:04 AM
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4. Incredible to be saying this, but.... what's new about this?
the US has been doing this kind of shit for 5 years now.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:07 AM
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5. ....this is the way DeLay & junior operate, no big surprise here
Don't forget to be seen with a "Support the Troops" sticker on your gas hog.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:45 AM
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6. Old story. Women were released and most likely the note just told them
where the women where. Odd the Guardian is behind on this one. There have already been threads on here about it.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 07:51 AM
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7. Old story, that they were accused yesterday? April 10th?
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 12:02 PM
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9. Started April 2nd I believe. Guardian is a tad slow.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 12:08 PM
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10. Links:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 12:17 PM
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12. Sure, but this article is talking about yesterday's formal accusation.
"American forces were yesterday accused of violating international law by taking two Iraqi women hostage in a bungled effort to persuade fugitive male relatives to surrender."
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:37 AM
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8. Sounds like things the GESTAPO did! Right???
Armenia Crawford Selvey
and the others who perished
in the collapse of the Union Jail in Kansas City

The civil war before the Civil War

August 1, 1863, after delivering a wagon-load of produce to Kansas City where it was sold, Susan Vandever, her sister Armenia Selvey and Armenia's nine year-old son Jeptha Selvey were quietly returning home by way of Westport to their home near Blue Springs, Missouri, when they were quickly surrounded by Union forces, restrained and returned to Kansas City where they were to be imprisoned - charged with aiding and abetting enemy forces; or, in other words, bringing medicine and other necessaries to Confederate guerrillas. Actually, these three were imprisoned in hope that their confinement would regulate the conduct of their husbands, brothers and others who were Missouri Confederate guerrillas.


Originally neutralist, the Crawfords and many farm families like them who resided along Missouri's Western border with Kansas, were merely surviving the Civil War day-by-day, not taking sides-intensely aware that speaking what someone would take as a disloyal word could bring them death and utter ruin to their families. The following account of William Gregg from his manuscript, "A Little Dab of History Without Embellishment", was a common rehearsal for the repeated genocide practiced by Union Forces in this area and it is, without doubt, what drove many Missouri 'Jewels' to join up with Quantrell and other guerrilla leaders in order to avenge this type of treatment. MORE...

http://www.members.tripod.com/~Penningtons/framesks.htm

All these kinds of things do is cause more hate and more rage!

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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 12:11 PM
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11. This has been going on for a long time....
I have articles on my website that go back to the first months after the invasion where thsi was done. We've also been bulldozing homes. :mad:

This shit is just so wrong...
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