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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 09:23 AM
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Enron widow challenges husband's portrayal in documentary
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 09:28 AM by rainbow4321
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sharedcontent/APStories/stories/D89ITAFO0.html


The wife of a former top Enron Corp. executive who killed himself less that two months after the company failed challenged how her husband was described in a new documentary Tuesday.

The film, "Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room," opens with a dramatization of Cliff Baxter's 2002 suicide. Later on Fortune Magazine reporter Bethany McLean, co-author of a 2003 book that inspired the film, says Baxter was a manic depressive.

"He was never diagnosed with that illness," an emotional Carol Baxter told McLean and film director Alex Gibney after the two-hour film made its debut in Houston. McLean expressed sympathy for Baxter's death, then told his widow that Baxter ended up killing himself over the events at Enron and other executives described him as having extreme mood swings.


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Then the film will open at select theaters in Houston and New York on April 22 and start spreading across the country April 29.


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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 09:29 AM
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1. So, this McClean is a Psychiatrist, or a licensed Clinical Psychologist,
and is thus qualified to diagnose "manic depression"? Well well. Fortune Magazine has some well-qualified reporters on its staff these days.

BTW, I think the correct clinical term is bi-polar, not manic-depressive.

And furthermore, does he consider that being deeply involved in the death throes of Enron could, in and of itself, lead to "extreme mood swings", even in people with no clinical diagnosis?
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:06 AM
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6. Maybe they sent a video tape to that Nobel nominated Dr...
Or Frist.

They're pretty good at remote diagnosis.
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:10 AM
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7. Remote diagnosis is becoming more and more popular these
days, isn't it?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 09:33 AM
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2. He most likely did not kill himself.
Read the forensic reports on his death. They are pretty damning, even if they did come out of one of the single most corrupt forensic labs in the history of the US.

Hint: What he was killed with was not "rat shot".
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:03 AM
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5. I thought it was "rat shot"
What was it? I thought rat shot was bizarre enough. You're saying it was something else? He pulled over to the side of the road in the middle of the night and shot himself right in the street. Never added up. Please explain what you are talking about. Very interested. Thanks.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 01:41 PM
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9. He clearly shot with...
A "Glaser Safety Slug". This ia what is known as a "frangible round", or one that essentially "explodes" in the body through transfer of kinetic energy. The Glaser comes in either blue or silver teflon casings(in this case blue), is loaded with compressed shot in a teflon liquid. When the round hits flesh, the energy is transferred, the shot expands and it creates an enormous wound channel. One shot kills are common in shooting incidents where the Glaser is the round that is used.

Pros, people who do killing for a vocation, use frangible rounds like the Black Talon or the Glaser. It is an efficient tool.

Add all that to the fact that any criminal forensic scientist worth his or her salt would know that the presence of shot and blue teflon in the wound channel is specific evidence of a Glaser being used, and that they still reported that he was shot with "rat shot", and given the other circumstances surrounding the event, it is clear to me that this was not a suicide.

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 01:56 PM
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10. Where did the info come from about the Glaser?
Where did you get that info, if the autopsy reported "rat shot"? This is the first I have heard of this. I was following it closely at the time he was killed but have heard nothing really since then.
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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 09:54 AM
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3. Last night, here in Houston, they held the 'unofficial' opening...
and reportedly, over half of the audience was former Enron employees. They lauded the film for its portrayal of events leading to that company's demise. The official opening is, I believe, this Friday here in Houston, and Ken Lay was sent an invitation to attend! Ebert and Roeper reviewed this movie on their program last week and gave it 2 thumbs up, saying it was well-laid out and well done.

I too, don't believe Baxter's death was suicide. I believe he had some help coming to his demise. Too many suspicious circumstances...
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 09:57 AM
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4. I don't either, i think he was removed before he could talk.
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:33 AM
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8. They need to donate all the movie's profit
to the Enron employees who lost all their savings/jobs because of Lay's crap.
I don't suppose the words "Bush" or "Kenny Boy" are anywhere in the movie?
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