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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 06:54 PM
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Domestic terrorists are primarily a member of which party?
Have you ever wondered whether ELF is really a right-wing propaganda action to distract from the fact that, the "conservative" and Republican party produces the vast majority of domestic terrorists/terrorism?

I have. The right-wing terror machine operates on control via manipulation of emotions and perceptions.

Your thoughts?
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 06:55 PM
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1. What the hell is ELF?
:shrug:
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 06:56 PM
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2. The Elmo Liberation Front
Edited on Wed Apr-20-05 06:57 PM by bbernardini
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 06:56 PM
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3. Environmental Liberation Front
or

Extremely Low Frequency
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 06:58 PM
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4. E.L.F.? don't you remember?
they were that pesky bunch of terrorist children in the movie The Santa Claus starring Tim Allen.
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Blue Moon Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:03 PM
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5. Elf is an extreme terrorist organization
Founded by Osama bin Keebler. They are hiding out in a hollow tree in Elk Grove Village, IL
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:12 PM
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7. But, but, but,...they burn up lots of SUVs,...and get lots of media,...
,...attention. Well, not so much, lately.

Remember the "terror threats" involving 'burning national parks' thingy? That was pretty weird,...especially when a fire suddenly appeared the day Busholini gave a speech.
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Blue Moon Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:15 PM
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8. Busholini
Da man wit da tiny linguini! LOL!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:10 PM
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6. "Famous Republicans for $100, Alex."
You just know that if these whackos go to the polls, they're pulling the lever over every "R" they see.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:16 PM
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9. There are left-wing and right-wing domestic terrorists.
What I find more interesting than who has the most members is the tactics each side uses.

The left-wing terrorists, even the Weather Underground, almost never KILLED PEOPLE.

The right-wing terrorists kill people all the time. MLK, Harvey Milk, Oklahoma City. The list goes on and on.
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Mondon Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:37 PM
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12. Let's be factual
The Weather Underground DID kill people (including themselves). The Black Panthers DID kill people. And who killed Bobby Kennedy? Malcolm X?

The problems with the hypothesis that left wing terrorists are "better" than right wing terrorists are (a) it's not true, and (b) it suggests that terrorism on the left is OK.

Sorry, terrorism is terrorism. Left or right.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:39 PM
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14. You're asserting conspiracy theories rather than theories based on fact.
You know that. I know that. Most everyone here knows that.
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Mondon Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:43 PM
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15. sure. ok.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 08:48 PM
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16. Can you provide any back-up for your assertions?
Do you have newspaper articles, witness statements, court documents, anything to back up your allegations?

If so, back up your charges. Otherwise, you're just making charges which anyone can do,...especially those who want to spread LIES!!!!
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Mondon Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:44 PM
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17. Yes
I have reams of files on each of the suggestions in my post. But I don't have them electronically, so I can't share them with you. Sorry.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:45 AM
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19. Oh, lets!
First, I never said "better", I said different.

I also said "almost never". Do you need a definition of "almost"?

The Weather Underground specifically targeted PROPERTY, not people. The townhouse explosion (killed 3 members and no one else) altered their perspective on the value of inflicting casualties. They always struck at night and gave advanced warning. That doesn't make them BETTER, but it is DIFFERENT.

Are you trying to suggest that Bobby Kennedy and Malcolm X were killed by leftist terrorists? After saying "let's be factual"?

Leftist terrorists infiltrated the CIA and the BOSS. Leftist terrorists ordered NYC police officers to stay across the street from the Audubon Ballroom so that other leftist terrorists could carry out the plot against Malcolm X. That's just the way those leftist terrorists with all their government connections and power operate, I guess. :crazy:

As a Palestinian, Sirhan can't be counted as a domestic terrorist. Even if we assume he was part of a conspiracy, it doesn't appear to be a "left wing" conspiracy.

That fact that you don't want to see a distinction between the tactics doesn't mean the distinction isn't there. To say "terrorism is terrorism" is like saying, "They hate us for our freedom."

It doesn't mean it's "OK" simply to recognize there's a difference between burning up a parking lot of SUVs and blowing up a federal office building on a weekday morning. It's possible to observe a phenomenon without expressing a judgment about the rightness or wrongness of the phenomenon.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:37 PM
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13. Remember that, terror/terrorism is defined as including killing people.
Basically, terrorism is killing people for a political 'cause (per our government's description which, *LOL* almost perfectly matches what this government is doing in Iraq eg killing to impose the political agenda of installing democracy *whew*).
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 12:50 AM
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20. There doesn't have to be killing
The threat of killing is enough.

A terrorist can call the airport and claim to have put a bomb in a suitcase. It's still terrorism even if no bomb actually exists and no killing results.
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Mondon Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:31 PM
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10. Really--
I didn't think they were members of either party--got a link? I'd so like to jam my obnoxious repuke coworkers.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 07:36 PM
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11. Although I don't know, I would guess that they are not likely aligned
with any party.

They probably don't like the Bill of Rights being shredded which Repukes (oops, okay and some Dems) did.

They probably like that repukes are clearly anti-minority.

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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-20-05 10:50 PM
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18. Tim McVeigh was a registered Republican
I thought that was common knowledge around these parts ?
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 01:00 AM
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21. The Earth First terrorist attacks were Right Wing operations:
It's only logical to assume that they're still operating.

Link:

http://forests.org/articles/reader.asp?linkid=12061
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