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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:49 PM Original message |
Homophobia among "progressives" |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't know the answer - but I do know not 1 more gay dollar of mine |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Amen to that. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. true - I'm not sure gays do much better when dems win then when |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. I thought only 3 dollar bills were gay |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
86. nah, they're not gay, they're queer. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:46 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. excellent |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
186. and I'll be there with you. Not 1 more straight dollor of mine |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. "for gay rights but against same-sex marriage" |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I'm against same-sex marriage. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
60. Great, but in the meanwhile, how about we have some |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 06:30 AM Response to Reply #60 |
116. I just had a thought run through my head |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #116 |
122. But in VA |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. Just beat me to it. I'm in a 10-year relationship,a nd I can't |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:27 PM Response to Reply #122 |
170. I would have the contract written up and when they call it null- take |
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Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #122 |
172. Read #170 |
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jono (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 09:28 PM Response to Reply #116 |
227. Besides the VA issue |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #60 |
124. I mean Domestic partnership. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
71. Marriage is a legal institution too |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #71 |
126. I'm saying Domestic partnership be the Legla Institution. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:20 PM Response to Reply #126 |
137. What if you and your partner don't live together for career reasons? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #137 |
147. Then what about my right to be covered |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:30 PM Response to Reply #147 |
171. Huh??? |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 08:28 AM Response to Reply #171 |
181. No.... |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #181 |
187. That's fine. I wish you much success. But..... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 10:03 PM Response to Reply #147 |
207. You and your roommate can marry if you choose. |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #207 |
217. no we can't? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. If same sex marriage were legal you could. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
211. Just because I'm FOR gay marriage |
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MsTryska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #211 |
218. i'm not talking about universal health coverage - |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #218 |
220. Why should those decision be tied to room mates? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 11:20 PM Response to Reply #220 |
235. furthermore, these new anti-gay marriage laws |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
212. Just because I'm FOR gay marriage |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. The posts last night were not by a long time poster |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. I dunno if he was long time or not, buut over 1,000 posts. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. That's why I never look at post count..you could be here a week |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Last night, I looked up the sign in date. Early Sept. 2004. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. As long as you have the media selling the notion |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. it's not just the media...democrats believe that too |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yes but I think it's because they pick it up from the corporate media |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. DiFi picked it up from the media? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. some do...some, however, are pissed because they believe |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Gays didn't push the issue. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. please tell that to your fellow DUers |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Just shows that liberals are just as easily led by Corp. media as repukes |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
88. Besides which, |
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jdj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
197. I don't know what Gavin Newsom's motives were, except that |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
62. When, please, IS the right time? When the dems are in office |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #62 |
156. there is no right time |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Exactly, it's a result of the MSM's biased coverage. |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
98. Add to that... |
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Gildor Inglorion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
7. As long as the lie of "choice" persists, I guess... |
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6000eliot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Why does it matter whether or not it's a choice? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
61. and then sometimes your partner is ill or incapacitated |
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6000eliot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 07:50 PM Response to Reply #61 |
84. You mean he won't dump me? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
95. well, he may not be permitted to visit you in the hospital. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. *some* Democrats and progressives - so who cares? |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
103. *some* Democrats and progessives is still too many. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:14 AM Response to Reply #103 |
110. how do you get from "some" to "the" so easily? |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:42 AM Response to Reply #110 |
127. I said some in the subject |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 01:38 PM Response to Reply #127 |
135. I'm not trivializing this |
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benevolent dictator (765 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
162. The significance of the minority |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
10. People do support civil unions |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:02 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. That sounds like "Why not be happy with the back of the bus rather than |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. No |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Maybe if you were gay |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:38 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Civil unions for all |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Civil Unions only for all is fine. But it's not in the cards. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Civil unions aren't even tactically viable in the long run. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. That makes no sense |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. If you think that married people all over the country |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. It's a license |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:27 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. There is no way those married by the state people are going to |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. It's what it is |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. If you think the religious would like it why aren't they pushing for it? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Some are |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. By all means, tell us the significant voices calling for only civil unions |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 01:09 AM Response to Reply #83 |
105. They would |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:59 AM Response to Reply #105 |
117. They "would" my ass. You said some ARE. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #117 |
128. It's common sense |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #128 |
163. I see. So when you said some ARE you were projecting an |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 06:13 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. Mostly |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #78 |
92. NO it isn't |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
173. Thank you. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:04 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. There is no significant push for ONLY civil unions for all. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Like I said, licenses |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I understand that and I happen to agree with you. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. The license is the contract |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. No, they have a marriage. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 01:12 AM Response to Reply #85 |
106. Aargh |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. Not to be difficult, but isn't that the same as the back of the bus? |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
91. unless I'm prevented from "marrying" |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
174. Civil unions do NOT get you to the same place. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. let me explain this to you |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. In every state, federally recognized |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. in reality...this issue is very similar to what happened to AA |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. then what's the difference between a civil union and marriage |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. That's the difference |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:58 PM Response to Reply #48 |
66. Because the RW will turn the 'semantic' difference into a real one. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:37 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. the rest of America |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
150. i agree with your rational, reasonable argument |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #81 |
175. I'm sorry - something doesn't add up |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 02:11 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. Only in your head |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #178 |
179. Lawrence v. TX = Scalia's "Homosexual Agenda" diatribe |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #179 |
180. Is that what you think? |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #180 |
188. Gee, I don't know - maybe I don't like being discriminated against |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 03:27 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. I always figured it would be separate |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:08 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. YOU are the one throwing around the homophobe label... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #194 |
199. Read the OP |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
90. Indianapolis voted for Kerry in 2004 |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. Because... |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
11. "for gay rights but against same-sex marriage" |
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Technowitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. I am Wiccan |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. a sensible position |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
167. Thank you! It is ALSO a freedom of religion issue! |
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megatherium (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
13. Louisville Kentucky passed gay and lesbian protection for jobs. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
16. I agree. I get so tired of hearing the "not now" speech |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. People are still racist, bigoted, etc. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Just not a Bush packed court system :) |
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Treblig (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 08:58 AM Response to Reply #40 |
182. Speaking of groupthink, check this out from over at FReeperland |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
18. i'm surprised no one has told you how grateful you should be |
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cheezus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
22. those are the same kind of democrats as the segregationists |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
25. For the record, that person was banned. |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. Thank you Skinner |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
87. I also thank you, Skinner. |
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foreigncorrespondent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
100. Thank YOU, Skinner! |
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mogster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 04:17 AM Response to Reply #25 |
113. Good line, this |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
130. That is a little ironic, since DU supported a candidate for President last |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #130 |
224. But that candidate didn't say what the poster did. eom |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
176. Thanks, Skinner! |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 10:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
184. thank you |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
26. How do you know they are progressives? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. How about gay activists who label any progessive that fails... |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
42. this is exactly what I'm talking about |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. For them it was a beautiful day. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. you're entitled to your opinion |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. How on earth did that help Gavin? |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. thanks for asking this question |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:03 PM Response to Reply #52 |
94. If nothing else, it ingratiated him with the powerful gay community in SF |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 09:53 PM Response to Reply #94 |
206. Precisely how powerful is that community? Can they get him elected to |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. I agree with you. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
70. How about 40% of the homeless kids on the streets of NY are GLBT? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
96. I never called gays as a group 'selfish' |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
104. Your post is apalling on many different levels... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 01:28 AM Response to Reply #104 |
107. I appreciate the info on GLBT incomes. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 01:38 AM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Gay kids don't tend to go homeless because of just feeling unaccepted |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #108 |
120. So you would advise a gay kid to live on the streets rather than... |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 05:02 AM Response to Reply #107 |
114. ah yes "most streetkids" |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #114 |
123. The chances of surviving homophobic parents are better than... |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #123 |
138. how can you make that judgement? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #138 |
144. Living with mean parents is better than dying on the streets. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. again, how can YOU make that judgement? |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. I've been on the streets and known LOTS of kids like that. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:57 PM Response to Reply #146 |
148. foster parents are not always great |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. Our society doesn't give a damn about anyone without money anymore. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:29 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. i agree 100% nt |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #153 |
195. Ditto. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #146 |
159. I guess I lived on different streets with different street kids. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #123 |
158. So you'd rather be the 19 year old gay black prostitute |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 06:21 PM Response to Reply #123 |
165. "there's plenty of jobs" |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 05:27 PM Response to Reply #165 |
200. There *ARE* shitty jobs out there. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #200 |
208. Older people have more experience and earning power |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 01:08 PM Response to Reply #208 |
209. BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY COLLEGE EDUCATED |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 01:51 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. Yeah, get into foster care with a RW fundie lunatic family. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 02:49 PM Response to Reply #213 |
216. You're missing the point by trying to "win" here. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 07:09 PM Response to Reply #216 |
223. That's a bogus claim. No one is saying GLBT issues have to be the TOP |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 09:03 PM Response to Reply #223 |
225. But that's the implication some GLBT activists make when they say... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 09:05 PM Response to Reply #225 |
226. Bull. Don't blame gays for every paranoid inference you have. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #226 |
228. Rosa Parks was not an ambitious POLITICIAN. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 10:04 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. Funny, you don't know his motives but you somehow know they're bad |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 11:13 PM Response to Reply #229 |
233. You're right, I don't know, it may just be my distrust of the rich... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. I don't judge people based on their income. And based on your rather |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 12:03 AM Response to Reply #234 |
236. I respect your opinions on issues -YOU seem unable to respect... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 12:32 AM Response to Reply #236 |
237. I respect your right to your fallacious opinions but not the opinions |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 12:50 AM Response to Reply #237 |
238. Do you ever let up? I'm trying to stick to the OP and you're going off on |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #238 |
239. I'm just asking you to support your claims. It's simple. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 01:52 AM Response to Reply #239 |
241. This will be my last post to this thread. it's getting late - and tedious. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 09:09 AM Response to Reply #241 |
244. Good, because you've swallowed a lot of right wing rhetoric. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 11:10 PM Response to Reply #216 |
231. You're acting like this is a zero sum game here. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #231 |
240. Where to begin? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #240 |
243. the issue isn't GLBT people fighting, it's the bought-off MSM |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #209 |
221. All the more reason to laugh at your "young people can get by on |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 07:06 PM Response to Reply #209 |
222. All the more reason to laugh at your "young people can get by on |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #107 |
157. Your posts on this matter are so ignorant and biased it is unbelievable. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #107 |
185. why are you bringing choice into this |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 11:01 AM Response to Reply #96 |
131. Maybe, MAYBE two gay professional men |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #131 |
134. Solon posted an informative link on those stats. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #96 |
154. Nothing like jumping to conclusions. |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #154 |
161. Kids thrown out at 15? Illegal. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #161 |
205. Says the guy who thinks homeless gay teens are better off than poor teens |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 01:58 PM Response to Reply #205 |
214. Not to mention that transgendered GLBT people can't pass. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
139. EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED!!!!! |
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carnie_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
30. I'm against same-sex marriage |
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renaissanceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. I hope you're against Republican marriage too. |
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cally (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
38. Because Dems have the same homoerotic fears as everyone else |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. The only thing that bugs me about those photos... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
53. Homophobia. Why "phobic"? I've always wondered.... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Because "phobic" refers to an irrational or hysterical response. |
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JohnnyCougar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #53 |
68. Ignoance and hate comes from fear. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. "homosexual lifestyle" |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. hey dwickham |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. send your boyfriend my way then |
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Djinn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 05:12 AM Response to Reply #101 |
115. right now I'd exchange him for a hamster |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #115 |
121. LOL |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #89 |
132. "LIFESTYLE"??? I don't have a lifestyle, I have a LIFE |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
54. I am homophobic AND I support gay marriage |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. I don't want to sleep with you. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. How did you know about my Girls Gone Wild tapes? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 08:08 PM Response to Reply #54 |
168. I don't get your "odd visceral thing." |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-26-05 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
97. There is a cure..."All men are created equal" and women too! |
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Pushed To The Left (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
109. This heterosexual supports gay marriage! |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
111. NOT ONE MORE MINUTE!!! |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #111 |
160. Thank you. Kisses, kisses, and more kisses. |
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The Traveler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #160 |
177. Yer welcome! |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
112. Well, I Am Against Gay *And* Straight Marriage... |
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erichzann (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
118. There is a simple answer to this - |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
119. The issue is not gay rights, it's personal rights. |
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Unions (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #119 |
141. Actually human rights |
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satya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:30 PM Response to Reply #141 |
155. Educate me, please. Is that because "person" may be construed to include |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
125. Hey, dwickham, |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #125 |
133. It's a good thing African Americans didn't wait until people |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #133 |
140. it is, actually...there is still a lot of segregation in america |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #125 |
183. thanks! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:39 PM Response to Reply #136 |
142. is heterosexuality also "a choice?" |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 02:42 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. can you take my word for it? |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:01 PM Response to Reply #136 |
149. If it were a matter of filing separate returns, then why not ban all |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #136 |
151. Some of us can sort of "choose" |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
166. Young guy I work with is an over the road driver and very right wing. |
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Jon8503 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-27-05 08:17 PM Response to Reply #166 |
169. I am with you, I doubt it ever happened. He probably wished. |
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geniph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #166 |
189. The guys who do that kind of thing... |
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Touchdown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #166 |
191. That's the plot of a gay porno vid. |
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allerna332 (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
192. dont be so PC |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. Maybe in your world, but... |
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allerna332 (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:20 PM Response to Reply #196 |
198. people are allowed to express their opinions |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 05:37 PM Response to Reply #198 |
201. uh, I expect a little more out of a progressive then just 'not bashing me' |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 09:24 PM Response to Reply #201 |
202. Exactly - it's like saying, "I'm not a racist, I just don't think black... |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-30-05 01:59 AM Response to Reply #201 |
242. I agree with you in terms of posters on this site. |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-05 01:31 PM Response to Reply #242 |
245. Democrats should provide leadership - that's what wins elections |
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UdoKier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-01-05 11:36 PM Response to Reply #245 |
246. At the risk of being redundant... |
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ladeuxiemevoiture (668 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-02-05 07:13 AM Response to Reply #246 |
247. Get a grip |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. How does a marriage SHOVE anything in ANYONE's face? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 01:35 PM Response to Reply #198 |
210. How do you think the violence starts? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #192 |
203. And not agreeing with integration doesn't make you a racist? |
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chickenscratching (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-28-05 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
193. seriously |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
215. Yeah, I've seen it here, often cloaked in "faith". |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #215 |
230. Amen. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-29-05 11:11 PM Response to Reply #230 |
232. Hallelujah. n/t |
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