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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:32 AM
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I think Springer nailed it. Before Reagan everyone believed in looking
out for each other and helping one another. Reagan brought in the philosophy about me, me, me, me and if you can't make it on your own then too bad. It really seems like their is a different attitude in the country since then. We use to think a little more like Europe does. It was a nice blend of Capitalism and Socialism where we watched out for our neighbor and everyone pitched in during war time.

Republicans want pure Capitalism unchecked which leads to greed, consolidation of power and eventually Fascism. Reagan got the ball rolling and Bush perfected this insane philosophy. The perfect recking crew.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:38 AM
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1. I agree. We are now the country of 'me'. One of the things I tell my
son that I really miss, is the sense of community. I grew up in the 1950's in the middle of Ohio farming country. We knew all of our neighbors. We had monthly community get-togethers: pot-luck dinners, hay rides, parties, etc. When someone was sick, everybody pitched in to get the crops out for the person, as well as contributing a little bit of cash or hot dishes. People participated in things. County fairs, the Grange, community clubs, school events, etc. Now, the GOP and far RW have created a country where only the individual is of value or the nuclear family. They can be set against their neighbors based on religion, skin color, sexual life style, political stance, or whatever. I don't think I've ever heard Bush talk about the country as a whole..the common good!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:40 AM
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4. That sounds great
I've never heard either. Of course not because that means he'd have to look out for us and not his corporate whore friends. Some people are still like that but not many. :( Our neighbors across the street are great. We talk to them a lot and the woman shares flowers with my mom etc. Things have even changed a little bit down here in the south.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:38 AM
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2. Seems right
From what I've read even Nixon helped people. Didn't he do food stamps? I remember someone telling me that.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:41 AM
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5. Nixon also started the EPA and Affirmative Action..
He was an odd duck..Did some good, but was a paranoid, strange man:(
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:45 AM
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8. And gender equity in sports. n/t
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:38 AM
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3. Yep. Under Reagan it became OK to hate certain groups again.
No more of this "peace and love" shit, there was MONEY to be made--if you were white, conservative and male!
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MsUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:42 AM
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7. Not their brother's keepers.
:thumbsdown: eom
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:42 AM
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6. Yep. And then they glamorized the corporate raiders, Ivan Boesky.
They had the movie "Wall Street" (greed is good) and people started to think that that sort of behavior was "cool."

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:46 AM
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9. gee and i thought springer wasn`t intelligent....
just kidding . maybe some people around here will admit that jerry is very, very good and is a voice we need.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:59 AM
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12. I think those who don't like Springer have not really listened to him
They might listen for five minutes and still have the perception that he is like his TV show. I was very skeptical of him at first but the more I listened the more I liked him.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:12 PM
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15. I agree and Jerry Springer is a tremendous asset to the left
wing and AAR. I enjoy listening to him at every chance I get.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:48 AM
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10. I have been saying the same thing for years...
in fact one of my political buddies can't even look at a picture of Reagan without retching...

He was the Prince of Greed...

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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 11:49 AM
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11. greed is good
Reaganism was the greatest force for evil in our nation's history.
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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:00 PM
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Reagan didn't invent it
it was a wave he rode into office. JFK appealed to our better natures, Reagan appealed to the me-ism we can all fall prey to (your mileage may vary).



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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:07 PM
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14. Right.
"Before Reagan it was like so, and after him it was like thus..." is much too simplistic and ignores a lot of history, but it does work as a kind of rough shorthand.

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Paul Dlugokencky Donating Member (409 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-29-05 12:00 PM
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13. Kerry tried
Edited on Fri Apr-29-05 12:01 PM by Paul Dlugokencky
a bit of the JFK approach, but not much got reported.
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