We, Dems...the party of "The People" the party of the "Disenfranchised"

[KoKo]

are OUT HERE...and we work out here in silence and we are "censored" by the MSM, our own Dems (some) and the Repugs and the Internet whores like Malkin, and Coulter...and the rest of the "crowd of cheering "Whores for Repugs" and the rest of the "brain dead America" just keep, "keeping on" and "fighting on" and in many cases it even comes down to fighting our own Democratic Party and those who now are suddenly "thinking" ....HEY...maybe those Dems..really have something...but we all know they are as "embedded as the rest."

Is it time for a REAL COMMITMENT to a THIRD PARTY to just nudge our Dem/DLC/ into the "Fear Factor?"

I'm a Dem....but without a "Third Party" where do we REALLY get the "Push Back" we need? :shrug: I'm not looking at Nader/Chomsky stuff here...because they had their chance...but where is a NEW MOVEMENT on the DEM LEFT and WHERE are the voices?

I don't know...any ideas...tossing it out. :shrug:

[Sugarbleus]

1. I wish there were a third party. I've been a dem all of my life

I've seen better times, believe me. I believe in the core values of the Dem party as it was several decades ago. I think something has shifted and I'm uncomfortable with it. The sift I think revolves around wealth, I'm sorry to say. Wealth is nice but a simple life that is sustainable isn't bad and I'd wish the powers that be would recognize that.

I've contacted my state Independent Party. They allow all comers to participate: right, left, whatever. This way I can vote the issues rather than the "shifted" party line. I'd still lean democrat 85%.

We shall see how it goes. It's all very sad isn't it. :(

[sweetheart]

2. The party of the disenfranchised, where?

The drugs war disenfranchises millions of americans, pushing them in
to political limbo, only able to express their politics using monikers
on internet chat, but arrested if actually attempting franchise.

Homeless people without money are disenfranchised, unable to donate to
the campaigns, and the infinite campaign finance graft, without
addresses, and most likely not to be voting or represented.

Black people, overwhelmingly (demographically) charged with crimes
and disenfranchised using jim crow laws, gerrymandering and notorious
methods of an apartheid state... and who is their party?

Without a mutiparty system, the disenfranchised are just summarily
fucked by the moderate corporatists vying for the common of the whacko
MSM frame. Its a real bummer.

[KoKo]

3. Good Points...I don't know. n/t

[KoKo]

4. BTW....David Cobb/Green only had 6 folks show up here in my "Red State."

What's really sad a about this is that "we thought" he had much more support here because of the "Voting Issues." And...he came to the "Liberal Heart of Voters" in my "Red State."

Only 6 showed up was the report...but my report came from Dems...Activists...but still Dems. It was VERY disappointing...:shrug:

[sweetheart]

5. The film "my dinner with andre"

has some very wise things in it, about the insanity of the world,
and the need to keep the powder dry in places of sanity as a wave of
barbarians rolls over the empire.

Increasinly, americans ar like romans wondering what these germanic
speaking chaps with beards are doing in their cities killing everybody.

The red states are a write off. Anyone with 2 cents of intelligence
will get the hell to a safe haven. You would be a happy chappie in
northern cal, oregon or somewhere amenable to intelliegent poeple...
the southeast has been overrun by scum... its no wonder that a wise
person shows up and its "pearls before swine."

[KoKo]

6. Thanks...I know.. Sometime I think exactly what you say...BUT!

if there are enough of us "pushing" those Reds will turn Blue...

But, I'm getting awfully tired of this. And, having lived "elsewhere" I do understand what you say. :hug:

[sweetheart]

7. total respect

I admire your tenacity, your bravery and great heartedness.

May the grace of all the buddha's surround you and your loved ones.
:hug: